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chtan
post Yesterday, 11:39 AM

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QUOTE(mikehuan @ Jul 1 2020, 11:15 AM)
all belief would be gone, and all knowledge you have of the world is also gone.

all scientific facts are beliefs before they are proven.

if you cant process something that is abstract then there is no difference between humans and animals
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If you can process something that is abstract and can't come up with sensical explanation, human are no better than animal.
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post Yesterday, 11:52 AM

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QUOTE(chtan @ Jul 1 2020, 11:39 AM)
If you can process something that is abstract and can't come up with sensical explanation, human are no better than animal.
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okay,

so what is sensical and what is nonsensical? you gonna write a book about it?
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post Today, 12:50 PM

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QUOTE(Spear2 @ Jun 30 2020, 02:21 PM)
Human is not made from clay just as pancakes are not made from ashes. To argue they do is to stretch and distort the argument beyond sensible and reasonable consideration, just because they both contain carbon atoms etc ... If this kind of argument is allowed, then X can be anything made from Y since we all are shared the same universe, IOW a meaningless argument, just because God made a mistake the believer has to swallow it whole ... again.
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Aiyo, extract of clay is extract of clay la. Why do you take it as it can be "anything"?

You are making a generic argument as if human can be made of anything. This is just another poor form of argument.

I wonder why do you like to pull this kind of trick in your argument? It only defeats yourself. Sigh...

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QUOTE(Spear2 @ Jun 30 2020, 12:54 PM)
So what standard did you use?

Continue to tap dance and spin.
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Already explained, go read back from beginning.
Don't tell me that you have comprehension problem.


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post Today, 12:55 PM

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QUOTE(Spear2 @ Jun 30 2020, 12:55 PM)
Of course not but your argument is equally pointless.
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I'm surprised that you admitted that your argument is pointless.

Anyway, I put forward a peer reviewed scientific paper.

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QUOTE(chatter77 @ Jul 2 2020, 12:50 PM)
Aiyo, extract of clay is extract of clay la. Why do you take it as it can be "anything"?

You are making a generic argument as if human can be made of anything. This is just another poor form of argument.

I wonder why do you like to pull this kind of trick in your argument? It only defeats yourself. Sigh...
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Pancakes are pancakes la ... a senseless reply, oh well ...
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QUOTE(chatter77 @ Jul 2 2020, 12:55 PM)
I'm surprised that you admitted that your argument is pointless.

Anyway, I put forward a peer reviewed scientific paper.
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Again senseless, you don't even understand what is being argued here, OMG!
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post Today, 01:04 PM

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QUOTE(kmarc @ Jun 30 2020, 01:00 PM)
What? Don't dare say what you are CONTENDING about?

Please reply this first then I can reply everything above.
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Aiyo friend, I already put forward a peer reviewed scientific paper and the discussion have been going on for many pages, now you are asking what's the contending point is all about.
Sorry bro, I'm not going to entertain your request, it's not like I have to deal with you alone in this thread. Take your time and read all previous post again.

Again, the scientists made a research on the process prior to the DNA la. Why did you even consider that clays have or do not have DNA?

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post Today, 01:13 PM

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QUOTE(Spear2 @ Jul 2 2020, 12:56 PM)
Pancakes are pancakes la ... a senseless reply, oh well ...
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Aiyo friend, here your post again:

QUOTE(Spear2 @ May 12 2020, 08:51 AM)
So how can you (Quran) make the claim human was formed from clay extract? If you drill down to the fundamental constituents fuzzily, anything could have constituted a human as long as it is terrestrial.
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Al-Quran talks about extract of clay.

Then, you said (read: straw-man) [u]anything[u] could have constituted a human as long as it is terrestrial.

I said, extract of clay is extract of clay la, why do you need to bring "anything" into the picture?
You think human is constituted of pancakes ka? Aiyo friend, what happened to you?

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QUOTE(chatter77 @ Jul 2 2020, 01:13 PM)
Aiyo friend, here your post again:
Al-Quran talks about extract of clay.

Then, you said (read: straw-man) [u]anything[u] could have constituted a human as long as it is terrestrial.

I said, extract of clay is extract of clay la, why do you need to bring "anything" into the picture?
You think human is constituted of pancakes ka? Aiyo friend, what happened to you?
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So what is the point of the argument then? It is meaningless right? Because clay is clay, pancakes are pancakes. Pointless. Do you understand???

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