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 ◙The New PROTON PERSONA◙, ~Official Thread~

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ymjay
post Aug 17 2007, 08:56 AM

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some people bash Proton for everything. Some bash for a valid reason and some do it for no reason at all...

perhaps he drives a Toyota or a Honda car or wants to get one. I've seen and talked to many people who hate Proton because they have a far superior car....

we can talk all we like about how expensive the japanese cars are ....but the thing is that theres nothing in the world that we can do. Reality is that cars like City and Civic or Vios and Altis are way above the budget of many Malaysians. The alternative is to buy cheaper cars from Perodua and Proton
just because you have more money doesn't entitle one to make fun of cars thats many are driving. is it fun when someone makes fun of your kancil if you drive one?

truth is, proton made some really poor decisions in the past few years. they became complacent and slipped up. My brother bought the Gen 2 when it was first released and wasn't paid for his patriotism. But we must be fair....i think the newer Protons are better cars. it shows they are making and effort and it is only fair to praise them for it.

The are improving and the last thing they need is for our own nation to condemn it regardless.. Perhaps some might be happy if Proton is sold and taken over. Personally, despite its problems, i really hope that Proton can do well again... it will be nice to see Perodua and Proton challenge each other equally...it would then ensure we have good cars and more choices...

Bash all you want....if u dont like it....but please dont call people retards ok?
what if u found out your uncle works for Proton as an engineer?

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post Aug 17 2007, 02:02 PM

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QUOTE(incognito @ Aug 17 2007, 09:50 AM)
i am utterly amazed at what you just wrote. japanese cars are expensive in malaysia only because the government artificially inflates their prices and distort the domestic market with exorbitant taxes. if proton is really so capable, why does it still need the governments protection after 20 years?? vios and city should only cost RM55k+ without the duties.

i know proton are trying to recover, and they deserve their due credit for wanting to finally buckle up and improve, to cater to what the customer wants. but quite frankly, they should have realised this long ago instead of this current desperation act. if they really want to show their capabilities, let the government open up the car market in malaysia and see them compete with other brands fair and square. a company will never strive to improve if there is no competition. equip their cars with better mandatory safety features (all their export models come standard with ABS and airbags, why cant they do the same for us? are malaysian lives really less precious than foreigners??).

please. study the facts first and be rationale before stating your opinions. dun be so ignorant to whats happening here. the rakyat deserves much more after two decades of blood-sucking. it is our hard-earned money after all.

PS: sorry for being OT.
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perhaps you are ignorant or its just that you didnt get what i'm trying to say.. In which part did i say that Proton isn't protected by the government? will talking about inflated prices and taxes get you anything other than personal satisfaction? i just said that in reality we have no choice BUT to buy Proton cars...

what facts must i study or which part of my rationale is wrong?
perhaps the ignoramus person is you. i just said that some people bash proton for things no reason. please understand my point of view and the context that i'm writing in.

your arguments are both vapid, used and abused and i cant say i dont agree... its just not going to change anything aint it?


Added on August 17, 2007, 2:09 pm
QUOTE(omnimech @ Aug 17 2007, 09:59 AM)
Basically the cost of the Pesona and The Vios or city is the same . Plus there was no development for tat car, all they did was extend an existing model . How do they justify it being 55k ? He said, what can you expect from a 55k car ? You can expect way more then the kind of crap Proton comes out with.

Id rather see perodua bring in more Jap cars at an affordable price rather then see Proton piss poor quality and cars. Yes I do know Perodua brings in Malaysian version of cars such as the Mira and such, but at least those cars are reasonable and worth buying.

If the gov didnt tax other cars, Alot of cars would be way affordable when compared to the proton cars.

Call me a retard or whatever, I tink ppl who waste that 50 over k on a Proton are not stupid but just a lack of choice and money.
What car do I drive ? I drive a city, never have any regrets = ) .
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i understand the the lack of quality from Proton in many aspects
like i said earlier....truth is not everybody can afford a City or a vios
the price difference between such cars and Proton cars might be up to 20k to 30 k. Thats a lot of money. Its true that Perodua is really doing great by adding a great car into the mix when deciding to buy a new car

the thing is that many people here have Proton cars and since some might prefer sedan cars like Persona ....what choice do they have? and especially when the alternatives are so much more expensive
the last thing a new buyer would want to hear is people bashing the car for all its worth.



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ymjay
post Aug 17 2007, 02:20 PM

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because when one talks about Proton...its natural to talk about politics, economy, monopoly , oligopoly, taxation, inflation, shares etc..etc
its really quite educational ...
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post Aug 17 2007, 02:28 PM

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QUOTE(Rusty Nail @ Aug 17 2007, 02:26 PM)
well, in malaysia, politics, economy, monopoly , oligopoly, taxation, inflation, shares are all interlinked together laugh.gif tongue.gif especially government protected companies.
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cant agree more
so if such companies actually collapse.....domino effect will spell trouble
haha...maybe thats why PROTON is always so 'protected'
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post Aug 22 2007, 09:02 AM

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hm.....just wanna ask...wheres the best place to buy a Proton Car?
mutiara damansara ok ka? near my house?
how bout service centre?
which is the best?
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post Aug 22 2007, 09:06 AM

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taman mayang??
theres where i live! which shop you service?

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post Aug 22 2007, 09:40 AM

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ok thanks for info guys!!
will go check out the Mutiara Damansara showroom
still undecided whether to get Neo or Persona
have until this week to decide..
actually quite glad that i'm actually deciding which PROTON car i'm going to buy and not whether it is between Proton and another..


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post Aug 22 2007, 12:16 PM

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initially i wanted to get the Myvi....so i went to the showroom in uptown. then i thought might as well give Proton a chance so i went to see the proton edar in ss14. i liked the design (exterior and interior ) so much i decided to get it instead> then when i went to book the car< the proton persona was just launched!! i think will settle for Neo la
interesting that both same engine and almost same weight. but i guess Neo's handling won me over
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post Aug 22 2007, 06:54 PM

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hypermount : just ignore them la.... no matter what is said and done, there are many out the who will have bad things to say. I myself am sick and tired of the cut and paste kind of comments given about Proton. its always the same thing : toyota this toyota that or Honda this Honda that
i really have no qualms about people who prefer japanese cars but it does not mean that your constant stream of abuses at Proton would gain anything

no cars are perfect and perhaps proton had their fair share of problems in the past. however, with the newer cars like savvy and Neo ( which are rated quite ok in the Uk and Aus.), it shows that they are improving. No point talking about how other brands are better..... Not many can afford other cars

since this thread is on the persona and many come here to see the comments on this car....please do it fairly. its boring to hear stuff like
gen2 is shit or proton sucks kinda comments. If u hate and despise it so much, just leave it alone. unless u own a Persona and u have problems with it then perhaps others might want to hear about it



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post Aug 23 2007, 08:54 AM

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was just thinking....i never tried pulling the front seat down in the nEo
how is it? i dont really fetch people but i love to throw things in the backseat instead of the boot. since its two door ma

haha

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post Aug 23 2007, 09:08 AM

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yeah....only to fetch ppl in times of emergency tongue.gif
i remember sitting in the backseat of my bro's satria for 3 hours plus with another 2 people (from kl to taiping) Never again!
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post Aug 23 2007, 10:56 AM

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the weight of the neo and persona is roughly the same albeit the persona being longer and bigger... why's that? 1k kg is rather heavy for neo
almost the same with bigger cars like altis

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post Aug 23 2007, 11:05 AM

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wahaha
maybe after the warranty can try to transplant engine
muahaha....

but petrol expensive la bro...its better to have tiny cc cars these days
so 1.6 still ok for me
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post Aug 23 2007, 11:21 AM

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hahaha
i dont know about how others drive but i have been driving for 7 years now and my fc has been er....not very good

my mom used to complain about why i finish her tank of petrol faster that she does... biggrin.gif

of course some drivers tekan minyak like theres no tomorrow
accelerate then brake.....then repeat ....especially during traffic jam

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post Aug 23 2007, 12:37 PM

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yes....because we can all feel it when we pump petrol and then it grows even worse when the prices of petrol increases..
and since cars are getting cheaper......petrol will NOT
haha

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post Aug 24 2007, 09:28 AM

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hm....the more bookings the longer one has to wait
nobody got their cars yet?
i would really like to know the feedbacks...

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post Aug 24 2007, 11:03 AM

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i wonder how many cars Proton can produced per month
if sales of the Persona is indeed past the 8k mark then i have no idea when i will receive my neo..


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post Aug 24 2007, 11:12 AM

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QUOTE(kcng @ Aug 24 2007, 11:04 AM)
dun worry, they sure will run one production line for neo....
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none ler
i phone proton customer line and asked them when i can receive car
ANSWEr : not sure la sir, cause the production is focused on the new car

i asked how long to wait

answer : not sure la.....cannot promise you

boHoooo hooo

i hate u PERSONA!


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post Aug 24 2007, 11:25 AM

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yeahlar......why didn;t they stock up
puas i ask from subang to damansara to ss2 and many all is no bloody stock... all also say Hline cannot get
you M line....manual no probs ....that also colour orange

the worst answer i got is the ss14 proton edar
i asked why no stock
answer : no demand mar...mline got la
what?!!
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post Aug 24 2007, 11:37 AM

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haha

never trust d salesmen completely
besides, i decided to buy the car b4 i went to the dealers
so i feel very mang cang when they keep asking me to buy Savvy
hope u get ur car soon


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