Pls-lah...
why honda City and toyota Vios so expensive? What is the selling price Vios and City in Langkawi?
If you don't know, I'm very kind people and I can tell you..."TAX".

What is the purpose for TAX on Toyota, Honda or other Import Car?
If you don't know, I'm very kind people and I can tell you..."Protect".

Why need to PROTECT?????
If you don't know, I'm very kind people and I can tell you..."So that, you can buy PROTON".

WHO care your DREAM??? very funny....
POOR people won't hate RICH people but they will try to earn their own money become RICH PEOPLE in their GOOD WAY.
Good article from Nanya.

If you don't like other people sentence/discussion/opinion, and asked PEOPLE "GET UR ASS OUT OF HERE DUDE", then who should the first one "GET UR ASS OUT OF HERE DUDE"? Not me and oso not him, but is........
Funny!!!!
Ha.....my opinion.....

This post has been edited by eagle.ng: Aug 22 2007, 04:28 PM

Ha...
Persona is ok for me because overall view is look like Gen 2.

I didn't say I'm not satifsy....if you not understand ENGLISH, then I can Translate to BAHASA MALAYSIA.
I mention 3 things because of sentence"Why PAY MORE for Toyota, Honda", that because of our Goverment TAX.
If without tax, that the Vios and City will sell almost as a same price....that it...
If you still don't understand...
I'm very kind people and I can tell you that "WHY other IMPORT car can sold their GOOD finish Car with Good Quality with almost same price"?(Without Tax)
This is proton should concern it!!!
...Edited.....

Why always people cannot accept other people comment/opinion? When the people cannot accept other people and they will alway ask people "get ur ass out of here? same like our goverment people "Get out from Malaysia, if you don't like Malaysia"?
So sad with their SMALL HEART.

This post has been edited by eagle.ng: Aug 22 2007, 07:16 PM

Ha... first time heard that in this forum discussion have loser and winner....
People like you alway stay right there and do nothing or "lap people shoe" without self improvement!!!

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Added on August 22, 2007, 5:19 pmif u didn't say u not satisfy.. den dun compare and tell us Y others made car are expensive.. coz we all know not that we staying in malaysia for the 1st time... DOH..
I can't really catch your meaning... sorry about that. Really once
of course for the car perfomance should be better becoz is 1.597cc, torgue 148/4000Nm/rpm, engin power 82/6000 kW/rpm....but don't forget about the persona car body weight is 1200+Kgram.
Then, as I know that Personal FC about 1.1-1.3sen per km....but this is from PROTON...
the real one still unknown yet.

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Added on August 22, 2007, 5:20 pmIt is good if you can wait another half year, so that we can know better from the enduser from persona.

This post has been edited by eagle.ng: Aug 22 2007, 05:20 PM

Yes, I agree that...most Jap are assembly in M'sia.
The problem is the Quality Control.....
Last time, I'm work in Japan company and their quality control is very tight....
unfortunately, the quality control is not much control.
Of course every car have their own weak point, but we just want to have a better car with our proton, right?

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Added on August 22, 2007, 5:30 pmthis FC for personal is come from Proton themself. the reality still dunno yet.

This post has been edited by eagle.ng: Aug 22 2007, 05:30 PM

Sorry for my mistaken....
is 11-13sen..

Proton Wira 1.5 MT (980 kgs): 12.1 secs/17.9 kms per lit
Proton Wira 1.5 AT (1000 kgs): 14.6 secs/15.2 kms per lit
Proton Wira 1.6 MT (1075 kgs): 10.8 secs/(same as 1.5)
Proton Wira 1.6 AT:(1100 kgs): 13.0 secs/(same as 1.5)

Proton Persona 1.6 MT B-Line (1180 kgs): 12.5 secs/16.2 kms per lit
Proton Persona 1.6 AT B-Line (1200 kgs): 14.5 secs/14.5 kms per lit
Proton Persona 1.6 MT M-Line (1185 kgs): 12.5 secs/16.2 kms per lit
Proton Persona 1.6 AT M-Line (1206 kgs): 14.5 secs/14.5 kms per lit
Proton Persona 1.6 AT H-Line (1210 kgs): 14.6 secs/14.5 kms per lit

It is provide my Motor Trader by Mr. Chip.

Vios oso assembly in M'sia as well.

sorry for your confusing...
what I tried to say from my first post is everyone have their own opinion, why we want to asked them get out from here....unless they are really BAD or come out nonsence language. If you really cannot accept it, then just leave it there.

When proton launched WIRA in the market, proton had created a GOOD SALE and top sale in Malaysia...unfortunately they dunno how to maintain their GOOD improvement and GOod service.
Their attitute from their saleman even worse because when they are top malaysia, they even don't want to care their customers....that why they kill their own SALE.

They don't have a good planning. Why? If you see the GEN2 vs Persona.....which one you will choose? Mostly people will choose Persone, right?
Because actually Persona is a improvement from GEN2(just do some minor modification)....
Mean that Persona will kill the GEN2 sale......
Another thing is why PROTON didn't come out with new design rather copy from GEN2?
Because when Gen2 launched, Proton had agreed to their supplier that they will purchase certain VOLUME of mechanical parts. Since Gen2 cannot create good sale, then they had lauched PERSONA but they need to use Gen2 parts. Of course, Proton had saved a lot of Money like Development cost, new design cost, blat blat blat..... correct me if I'm wrong.


Actually, from our opinion, if someone from among us can delivery our opinion to PROTON WORKER or some other people visited this forum may know their weak point and hope they will improve our PROTON. Of course, they oso have their thinking if our opinion is not good, they oso won't accept, right?

This post has been edited by eagle.ng: Aug 22 2007, 07:46 PM

Sorry for my mistaken...is 13sen.

I just want to do the comparison without TAX...because PROTON and PERODUA is without TAX by M'sia.
If we compare with TAX from import cars, then it is not fair with them, right?
If with tax, then cannot compare anymore because it is too expensive about 2x.

[quote=kcng,Aug 22 2007, 07:08 PM]
lol at you real hard.....
lap people shoe ?
i lol-ed.... more like ur type of people are the ones that cannot make improvement, hence the bashing and all...

dude, u are staying in malaysia and u need to abide by the rules of this country, not happy ? then go and do something about it instead of blaming on everything, like eng98 says, go make a political party and make changes...


driving a proton does not make u any lower then those who drive toyota's and honda's or bmw... its their choice of vehicle that they want to own / fit their requirements..

why i drive a neo,
simple,
i got 50k budget, and i want a car to replace my previous ride
my requirement:
1) good handling, stock from factory
2) 2-doors
3) brand new
4) airbags / abs
5) FC is not a concern to me

just forget about my sentence...sorry about that....
Yes, I totally agreed with you...it is totally depend on your own budget and your own requirement...
we cannot force anyone for their own like, right?
I think I should stop...if not you will dislike me....ha...

Thanks...by the way, how you get it?
i just wonder that...our goverment and our EPF alway invest a lot money to Proton but still TAX on Proton...
just not make sense.....

wat is the RPM when is reach 80km/h and 110km/h?
Anyway, just becareful for those who has small kid or children....
For the Proton Persona boot with hydraulic arms are quite dangerous because the boot is hard to close at the beginning and when reach to halfway it is will slams shut! The force is great and might make hurt someone if without careful.....anyone try to close the boot b4?

This post has been edited by eagle.ng: Aug 23 2007, 10:00 AM

where you stay?
Penang, KL all have already...one of my friend oso book from the first day and the Persona will delivery to her between 3 weeks, this is what they promise....but how sure is it I dunnoo...only can be sure until she get her car on that day ...

This post has been edited by eagle.ng: Aug 23 2007, 01:58 PM

today newspaper...
Gen2 and Persona have 70%+ using same parts, or same look.....

cut cost-mah!!!
new design iswara will replace OLD ISWARA CAR on next year tooo...
Just wonder will they use same design from Persona or not?

ha...then you asked wrong person already....
everything he/she dunno, then what he/she should know? so admire his/her job position, only need to answer "dunno".
or we should asked other people who not work in Proton?

This post has been edited by eagle.ng: Aug 24 2007, 11:21 AM

not good to say that....
......有话说不出, 一切尽在无言中......

every new cars oso have minor problemm...
just depend on you that "are u going to accept it or not!!!"
Send back SC and asked them to improve it....
unless SC answer to you that "it is like that, we can't do anything for you"....then we going to be SICK....ha...
anyway, if it is won't cause us in an accident then should be fine...

my experience....when I got my new car, and found that some minor problem(that time about 200-300km only), sent back to SC, when they test drive(I sat beside with him), he run my car about 100-110km....
I asked him "is it ok b4 1st service, with run my car with fast speed?" he replied me..."It's ok, dun need to worry about it!!!!"
I did my car 1st service about 750km....bcoz that time I need travel long distance...
I did my car 2nd service about 6000+km....cause cannot make it on 5000km, again lond distance travel.

since it is my 1st new car(my pocket money-woh), of course I need to take care it carefully!!!
but when send back to SC, they just ignored the feeling of the customers...
they tried to run the car as fast as they can, luckily that road is not highway and they can't pick up more than 120km/h.
if not my sweet car will have heavy SICK later.......

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Added on September 6, 2007, 4:48 pmYup is not this thread....but just share my experience here.

This post has been edited by eagle.ng: Sep 6 2007, 04:50 PM

that why I still feel lucky!!!!

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Added on September 6, 2007, 5:00 pmyour image very nice!!!!



This post has been edited by eagle.ng: Sep 6 2007, 05:00 PM

hey friends, what time and what is your car colour?
I need to inform my friends and my relatives dun use that Penang bridge on that hours.....
so that you guys can fully try your car!!!!