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post Jul 7 2020, 11:11 AM

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QUOTE(J.alexander @ Jul 7 2020, 01:23 AM)
What’s the Apple Teacher certification about? Anyone can take it?
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Technically anyone can. Its parallel with Google Classroom certification. It means the teacher has successfully comprehended and understood how to use certain tools (iPad, Garageband, Keynote, etc) on iPad / Mac (both have different certifications)

QUOTE(Seng_Kiat @ Jul 6 2020, 10:25 PM)
Omg bro, I just read your message here that you have not received the adonit yet.  bangwall.gif  bangwall.gif  bangwall.gif  ... did you check with poslaju? Tomorrow I will give them a call.
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Yeap. I'm working on my end.


QUOTE(boonhlaw @ Jul 6 2020, 10:41 PM)
ordered mine apple store online on 30th and today still processing stage.... apple pencil i ordered china apple store cos I want to get engraving in chinese... still processing too... smart keyboard folio reach KL DHL yesterday.... lol... continue waiting... it says delivered 27 July - 3 Aug... really accurate or not?
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From my experience, yes. I ordered on 9th June 2020.

on 29th June I was finally billed. Receipt, etc all suddenly on that day. Turns out DHL started sending on that day.

it said 1st August to 8th July. Then said "Arriving on 8th July". I got the iPad Pro on 4th. Considering it shipped on 29th June, its really, really fast, from Chengdu, to Sabah.

So technically, they won't be later than the last date, but generally they try to be as early as possible. Their KPI since if UPS overflow, DHL is their second option.


BTW, please print that receipt from Apple SG, with your name and the waybill order. They'll be very strict in needing that to prove its your order, and will not hand it to any random person (including wife / anyone in the same house).



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post Jul 8 2020, 07:49 AM

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QUOTE(alzaim @ Jul 8 2020, 01:52 AM)
Thanks will print ahead.. Can i show a digital copy instead?
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I don't think there will be a problem. However, just to be safe, you can have a chat with DHL (assuming your package is already on the way). Once it is, you can also sign up for email and SMS alerts, or let them do it for you (as in to sign up).
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post Jul 8 2020, 06:17 PM

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Does anyone here use stylus with their iPad Pro? I would like some help / assistance / advice here.

I’m not sure if this is an OS limitation, or basically lack of support for third party stylus, or the design philosophy or I’m doing it wrong, but there’s a lack of universal reprogrammable system wide button remap? I mean, you have say, Wacom app for surface pro 1 and 2, then you have the N-trig API for other styluses that uses it for Surface Pro 3 and above, that you can pre-program / re-program what a stylus do on the OS level.

Or, if anyone can point to a stylus power user manual for the iPad?
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post Jul 9 2020, 08:34 AM

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QUOTE(un_id @ Jul 8 2020, 11:24 PM)
Hmm.. in ios, you basically use it as is.. generally apple restricted user to modify anything..
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In the words of a very wise user the nick of Sam Du Rose in /r/iPad (or /r/iPadPro if you so choose), “To be an Apple user is to enjoy the beautiful simplicity... while always wishing Apple would add the complexity you want. Not anyone else’s, though, that would be too much complexity.

QUOTE(ajtoh @ Jul 9 2020, 09:26 AM)
thx so much for tips...still waiting the new Air (hopefully by next month) or IPP  tongue.gif
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So after some testing (with a friend that owns Apple Pencil 2), the best way for me to describe stylus support, is broken into 4 tiers.

Apple Pencil 0.5
Apple Pencil 1
Apple Pencil 1.5
Apple Pencil 2


Basically, every third party stylus is either Apple Pencil 0.5 or Apple Pencil 1.5

I doubt any has Apple Pencil 2 ability that it can do things on OS level like Apple Pencil 2.

Not sure about Logitech Crayon though.

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post Jul 9 2020, 09:54 AM

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QUOTE(ajtoh @ Jul 9 2020, 09:49 AM)
any specific brands for tie below
Apple Pencil 0.5 =
Apple Pencil 1  = Apple
Apple Pencil 1.5 =
Apple Pencil 2  = Apple  thumbup.gif
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Anything like goojodoq (generation 5?) that has almost everything like Apple Pencil 1, but lacking some things (like pressure sensitivity, or tilt, etc) is Apple Pencil 0.5 tier to me. I’m not degrading it, its just based on functions etc.


For Apple Pencil 1.5, to me its like the Logitech Crayon (its actually Apple Pencil 1, since it has everything Apple Pencil 1 is), or the Adonit Note Plus (it has 2 more buttons than Apple Pencil 1, but the buttons are only re-programmable at app level, and not OS level unlike the Apple Pencil 2)
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QUOTE(twtang @ Jul 9 2020, 11:56 AM)
great analysis, price is more than 0.5, hahaha...
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Thanks, but again, that is like an oversimplification. After all, you only buy things that you need.

QUOTE(un_id @ Jul 9 2020, 12:01 PM)
imo its more like whether the manufacturer want to add the feature or not.. well to cut costs, so remove some functions, like pressure sensitivity can be added if they want.. but the apple pencil itself is quite a simple device anyway, basically 3 features, pressure, tilt effect, and tap gesture
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True, but like the case of goojodoq, the hardware revisions aren’t back-date-compatible. Meaning just because newer editions can do something, doesn’t mean the older editions can.

The nearest to Apple Pencil 2 is Adonit Note Plus. But if OS level Apple only supports their own stylus with no API for third party stylus to hook to, it becomes quite obvious as to what they’re trying to do. :/
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post Jul 11 2020, 10:56 AM

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QUOTE(boonhlaw @ Jul 11 2020, 01:08 AM)
I ordered iPad Pro 11” WiFi + Cellular on 25 June but until today it is still showing “your order is being processed”...
Why is it such a long delay in delivering? Estimate date is 1 month apart from date of ordering. Lack of stock?

I getting it as alternative to my MBP. Will use MBP at home and when go out will bring the iPad Pro. One reason is iPad Pro got Cellular connection - meaning I don’t have to use other divices to online when outside of WiFi zone or when phone’s battery is low.

I got my Apple Pencil 2 from China Apple Store, Main reason is I want to have chinese wording on it - free engraving. Now the pencil is on its way back to Malaysia.

After deep consideration, I go for Smart Keyboard instead of Magic keyboard, main reason is the magic keyboard is very heavy and if bring them together it will be my MBP weight level. I ordered it few days after the iPad Pro, and I already received it....
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for the iPadPro, you've just got to wait. I ordered mine 9th of June, and it only changed from processing to preparing to ship to shipped on 29th June. Yeah. 3 weeks. Basically its getting assembled.
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post Jul 19 2020, 03:49 PM

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What other chargers are safe to use with the iPad Pro 11? Or I'm stuck to buy another 18w charger for RM149? Any recommendations?
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post Jul 20 2020, 12:03 AM

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QUOTE(issac96 @ Jul 19 2020, 09:07 PM)
Logitech's answer for Apple's $300 Magic Keyboard - Logitech Folio Touch. An alternative for Magic keyboard, for half the price. Anyone eyeing for it ? Cuz I am!
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too bad the keyboard isn't detachable. If it was, it's a "must buy" in my category. Although, technically, its already a "must buy" with the fact that it has great protection, and a great keyboard + trackpad.
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post Jul 20 2020, 08:01 AM

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QUOTE(alzaim @ Jul 20 2020, 02:59 AM)
Still waiting for my iPad pro to be shipped.
Estimate time is 3/8/2020.
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keep an eye on the website. The moment it says shipped (i think it should be sometime end of this week), subscribe to the DHL / UPS sms notifications.


Then as how my friend puts it... "Start stalking religiously".
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post Jul 20 2020, 10:13 AM

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QUOTE(twtang @ Jul 20 2020, 10:04 AM)
Zagg Slim Book Go, the keyboard is detachable.
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but but but... keyboard tarak trackpad

*cry*
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post Jul 23 2020, 09:24 PM

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So i just got my Logitech K380, and its a much better typing experience compared to the triple folded keyboard with touchpad. Its not like touchpads are bad (I suspect that its just not as good), but having a mouse is pretty damn good. Still can’t beat the minimal movement of hand with a trackpad. At this point, there’s just no “unicorn” case with detachable keyboard+trackpad like the previous iterations of iPad Pro :/

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post Jul 24 2020, 09:33 PM

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QUOTE(hOnGhOnG @ Jul 24 2020, 07:41 PM)
Hi, planning to get an ipad pro 12.9 inch + MK.. is there anywhere I can grab both in a go? I read through the thread and it seems MK is out of stock everywhere.
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I think the best way for you is to actually contact the stores over the phone. Unless you plan to drive with a “hit and miss” mentality, which you may end up with an empty hunt.
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post Jul 26 2020, 09:31 PM

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QUOTE(andrewtho @ Jul 26 2020, 04:00 PM)
So I got the Coverbuddy to tag along my iPad Pro 12.9  and turned out that it can’t close / shut properly despite it being a ‘Made for Magic Keyboard’ model.

Overall a bit disappointed with the Coverbuddy. The MK however, its pretty heavy and the trackpad is so tiny, kept running out from the space - too used to Macbook’s trackpad.
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I think you got a lemon unit. Try contacting SwitchEasy. They honour the RMAs. There were already few cases where in order to get a replacement unit, you need to actually agree to them (but must contact them and they have to agree to send a new unit to you first) to destroy your unit before they send a new replacement unit.

I mean, the way I understood is,

1) contact SwitchEasy.
2) once confirmed that they will replace and re-ship to you, they will ask for proof.
3) the proof is you need to destroy the cover in a certain manner. Then send the video of you doing that, or the end result, and send the video to them.
4) Once confirmed genuine, then they’ll send you a replacement unit.

At least that’s what I understood from the reddit threads.
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post Jul 28 2020, 06:41 AM

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QUOTE(andrewtho @ Jul 26 2020, 11:01 PM)
Thanks, does this require it to be purchased directly from Switcheasy or can just be any unit purchased locally?

I was reading about this issue on Reddit as well - who knew mine would turn out to be a lemon unit 😑
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Of that I'm not so sure but still I think you should contact them. I think it's only fair for them to compensate you.
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QUOTE(aikachan @ Jul 29 2020, 03:58 AM)
Is AppleCare worth it? I bought my iPad in May, can I still buy AppleCare?
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Yes you can. As long as its within the first 11 months or so, you can buy Apple Care. If you manage to go to countries with Apple Care +, you can do that too, but you must physically bring your device there.


QUOTE(andyfriends @ Jul 29 2020, 07:43 AM)
Can I ask dump Qs
1. Comparing with huawei mat pro, would u still get this?

2.  Would u wait for the next gen in coming months?
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1. the TL;DR answer would be a big fat NO, for every single Android tablets in general. I'll explain the 5W,1H down below, to be as concise as possible.
2. New next gen? You'll forever be waiting for new next gen. Besides, the current lineup of iPad Pros were only months old, and besides, if you can wait, you'll wait. If you dont' want to wait, you'll get this one anyway.



So the long ass explanation.

For context, I use Android devices, a lot. My current phone's a BlackBerry KeyTWO (that is specifically, a chinese model (BBF-100-4) that has no Google services), I still run an OnePlus One. For tablets I've owned an Acer Iconia (that's waaay back in time) and not so recently a Lenovo Tab 3 7. That's for context.

As for why no?

1. If you have a "latest" Android phone, meaning that runs Android 10 right out of the box with USB-C port, chances are it already supports "google desktop mode". Meaning your phone can be in desktop mode if it connects to another big screen. To me, current desktop mode in Android is just a UI and UX refresh that doesn't bring value to the tablet proposition. Just use a dock, like you would on an iPad Pro, and it works all the same. Connect everything. Stylus UX are being added by Android, but Android isn't going all-in into the tablet experience. Huawei has, LG has, Samsung has, but they're all manufacturer implementations. Not to mention that Huawei uses AppGallery instead of Google Playstore, and there is almost no way to install GAPPs / GMS into the Huawei MattePro (at least, to my knowledge, there isn't any yet).

2. Google Tablet experience isn't as intuitive. What I mean to say is, from one manufacturer to another, tablet mode with stylus functions are vastly different. Meaning you're at the mercy of the manufacturer, not Google, if you want certain core stylus integration features enabled, disabled, or updated. As much as I hate to admit this, no Android manufacturers have a stellar record of maintaining software, OS level updates consistent enough like Apple does for its iPads. That's one thing to consider. This is unlike Windows, where you can use any stylus you want, and you can key in anything you want to the "wheel". For iPadOS, the stylus integration is kind of baked in, and there are even more features that are confirmed with iPadOS 14. That said, Android has a lot of features that are adopted fast and furious (which is in sync with their "implement first, make it work later" mentality in most of their builds). Granted iPadOS isn't perfect (when I install some apps, they're only optimized for iPhone, and in iPad, they only run in portrait mode, with option to 1x or 2x the size, and that frustrates me to no end)

3. for cross-platform app support for apps, the problem lies with AppGallery. Enough said. Yes, you can sideload, but it still isn't the optimal experience. Trust me, because if you read this far, i'm running a phone that was de-GAPPed because it was a Chinese spesific model, and there are some niggly daily issues that I had to deal with everyday and it isn't fun at all.

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post Jul 30 2020, 01:32 PM

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QUOTE(aikachan @ Jul 29 2020, 04:43 PM)
Thanks. But let’s say I bought Apple Care+ in Singapore, would I be able to claim using AppleCare+ in Malaysia if anything were to happen to my iPad?
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If i'm not mistaken, iPad warranties are internationally covered, unlike iPhone. Need to double check, but last I checked for the ipad Pro 2020, it was.


QUOTE(andyfriends @ Jul 30 2020, 12:02 AM)
Thanks for taking the time to explain this to me. I shall be getting an iPad then.

My next Q would be, if I walk into the store, and would want my name to be engraved, is it possible?

I have heard bad story about the delay in shipping the device and I don’t wish mine get delayed.
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Don't quote me here, but AFAIK, and if my memory serves me right, engraving is only available for online-orders only.
Technically the build up delay isn't a delay. Its like if you place an order today, they build the machine immediately (since they use 'just in time' mechanism), but will only charge you (by sending the receipt) on the day the unit is shipped. Once shipped, even from Chengdu, it'll take around 1 week).

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QUOTE(andyfriends @ Jul 31 2020, 08:58 AM)
So what’s the estd date from placing an order to receiving it?

Any one has done any recent purchase?
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Ordered mine 9th of June, shipping started 29th June, arrived at my hand 4th of July.

QUOTE(un_id @ Jul 31 2020, 09:11 AM)
You are right. I asked that at machines before. They can accept ipad warranty regardless from any country. As apparently they just have to ship the ipad back to apple and wait for replacement unit. No repair can be done on ipad locally, unlike iphone
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Thanks for the confirmation.
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post Aug 2 2020, 09:23 AM

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QUOTE(andyfriends @ Jul 31 2020, 02:04 PM)
Wah need around 3 weeks. I wonder if I should wait for it or get it from the store.

What’s holding me back is the engraving.
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With or without engraving,,, it would still be the same, I think.


I asked for a note (that should have came along with the box, but no such thing appeared in my iPad Pro box.
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QUOTE(andyfriends @ Aug 2 2020, 04:57 PM)
Sorry what note is that?
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Just a random note to myself LOL

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