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Home Networking Ditch ONU, use GPON SFP on Business Grade Router, 2.5G ONU for Unifi & Maxis, NO NEED VLAN

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post Jul 19 2020, 12:06 PM

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Can you try measuring the temperature of SFP module when it is in use? Like with the temperature gun you can see nowadays in front of the shops and restaurants. Is the module too hot to be touched or not?
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post Jul 19 2020, 06:41 PM

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Can you try measuring the temperature of SFP module when it is in use? Like with the temperature gun you can see nowadays in front of the shops and restaurants. Is the module too hot to be touched or not?
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It's hot when I touch it... GPON web interface show it's 45-50c



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Try not to order the GPON SFP yet. It's not that stable with my ER-12. somehow during the startup, the PPPoE did not managed to dial until I have to manually access to 192.168.1.1 web interface (just access will do), then ER-12 automatically connects to Internet somehow.

Not sure what happened as I'm not familiar with EdgeRouter. Will have to capture the logs to see what actually happened that time.

Revert back to TM router then everything resolve immediately. Tried rebooting both TM + ER-12 and PPPoE always managed to dial automatically without manual intervention. Unfortunately this is not happening to SFP GPON sad.gif



Will report again when I try with Mikrotik router.

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Anime4000 aneip
Try not to order the GPON SFP yet. It's not that stable with my ER-12. somehow during the startup, the PPPoE did not managed to dial until I have to manually access to 192.168.1.1 web interface (just access will do), then ER-12 automatically connects to Internet somehow.
Will report again when I try with Mikrotik router.
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I think 2 possible scenario regrading GPON SFP:
1. GPON SFP getting late power on, thus slow to being ready.
2. GPON SFP is slow to startup, ER-12 find that eth11 is not attached to any, thus PPPoE not execute.

since ER can access SSH, try put "some" script that keep reconnect pppd even eth11 not present/ready, I managed create one for VyOS to record every pppd request (Streamyx) for MCMC PDF Report Documentation
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QUOTE(Anime4000 @ Jul 19 2020, 07:59 PM)
I think 2 possible scenario regrading GPON SFP:
1. GPON SFP getting late power on, thus slow to being ready.
2. GPON SFP is slow to startup, ER-12 find that eth11 is not attached to any, thus PPPoE not execute.

since ER can access SSH, try put "some" script that keep reconnect pppd even eth11 not present/ready, I managed create one for VyOS to record every pppd request (Streamyx) for MCMC PDF Report Documentation
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That's what I thought so too but I waited long enough actually, like few minutes but it PPPoE still "disconnect" status. the GPON SFP itself takes less than 1 minutes to reboot if you press the restart button on its webui.

As for SFP itself, ER-12 managed to detect the brand, status of the SFP upon ER-12 start up.
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post Jul 21 2020, 10:59 AM

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@thankyou

Any updates on your project? Correct me if I am wrong, your testing with TM and Maxis fiber?

I am considering the ER-12 - EdgeRouter 12 too, with GPON SPF for Time.
Anyone has any experience with non-Time issued GPON SPF modem/adapter/card/router with Time?
Any information on Time ANU ANT Authentication/SIP/VoIP/VLAN Tagging would be great.
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QUOTE(cyborgclone @ Jul 21 2020, 10:59 AM)
@thankyou

Any updates on your project? Correct me if I am wrong, your testing with TM and Maxis fiber?

I am considering the ER-12 - EdgeRouter 12 too, with GPON SPF for Time.
Anyone has any experience with non-Time issued GPON SPF modem/adapter/card/router with Time?
Any information on Time ANU ANT Authentication/SIP/VoIP/VLAN Tagging would be great.
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I didn't have time to re-test the GPON SFP. My family members make noise when I brought down the Internet for 4 hours on Sunday...

Yes, I'm testing on TM (Maxis) network specifically on Huawei ONU. Can't comment much on other networks due to lack of knowledge & environment to test.
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Tested ODI GPON SFP on Mikrotik hEX S and it worked perfectly fine. Unifi connected immediately during 1st configuration + boot up.

Tested cold boot for 5 times and no issue at all.

Last 3 tests with benchmark:
- Cold boot (power on)
- Time with stop watch

Ping Router (m:s.ms) Ping Google DNS (m:s.ms)
Test 1 0:42.2 0:50.0
Test 2 0:41.3 1:16.0
Test 3 0:43.3 0:54.3

So as you can see, the problem is really ER-12 but not the GPON SFP itself. Will have to find sometime to troubleshoot the issue on ER-12

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QUOTE(aneip @ Jun 28 2020, 07:15 PM)
Is this for Huawei ONU? or now got universal ONU which can use all the places? My house use alcatel. love to use SFP if possible..
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I have a friend who are staying at SS1 (Sea Park) and during March, his Alcatel ONU was struck by lightning through power adapter...

TM replaced a Huawei HG ONU for him. I think you should request for Huawei replacement as well!

Good luck! thumbsup.gif
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QUOTE(thankyou @ Jul 21 2020, 02:13 PM)
I have a friend who are staying at SS1 (Sea Park) and during March, his Alcatel ONU was struck by lightning through power adapter...

TM replaced a Huawei HG ONU for him. I think you should request for Huawei replacement as well!

Good luck!  thumbsup.gif
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Thanks for the info.. Will find some idea to try to replace the ONU.
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post Jul 23 2020, 02:40 PM

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QUOTE(thankyou @ Jul 21 2020, 02:04 PM)
Tested ODI GPON SFP on Mikrotik hEX S and it worked perfectly fine. Unifi connected immediately during 1st configuration + boot up.

Tested cold boot for 5 times and no issue at all.

Last 3 tests with benchmark:
- Cold boot (power on)
- Time with stop watch

  Ping Router (m:s.ms)  Ping Google DNS (m:s.ms)
Test 1      0:42.2                0:50.0
Test 2      0:41.3                1:16.0
Test 3      0:43.3                0:54.3

So as you can see, the problem is really ER-12 but not the GPON SFP itself. Will have to find sometime to troubleshoot the issue on ER-12
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Any other GPON SFP ONU Stick would you suggest from that you picked up ? (https://a.aliexpress.com/_dTNv9ks) Wanna try to get from within peninsular.
What other combination of router and stick would you suggest? I only have used a Mikrotik RB2011UiAS-IN.


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Does anyone else know someone has tried for all in one router/onu with Time ISP?

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QUOTE(cyborgclone @ Jul 23 2020, 02:40 PM)
@thankyou
Any other GPON SFP ONU Stick would you suggest from that you picked up ? (https://a.aliexpress.com/_dTNv9ks) Wanna try to get from within peninsular.
What other combination of router and stick would you suggest? I only have used a Mikrotik RB2011UiAS-IN.
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Does anyone else know someone has tried for all in one router/onu with Time ISP?
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Apologies, I have very limited knowledge on TIME FTTH. Can you share the ONU provided to you? or it's just a media converter?

I think RB2011UiAS-IN is good enough for All-In-On solution! Mikrotik just work fine with this GPON Stick.
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@thankyou do you able to get SIP info from the Huawei BTU? I got my BTU replaced, try to collect as much info as possible. Seems the password encrypted in backup file.. Current objective

1- use SFP
2- use unifi sip as trunk in 3cx server
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QUOTE(aneip @ Jul 25 2020, 05:21 PM)
@thankyou do you able to get SIP info from the Huawei BTU? I got my BTU replaced, try to collect as much info as possible. Seems the password encrypted in backup file.. Current objective

1- use SFP
2- use unifi sip as trunk in 3cx server
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I got the SIP credential on old HG850a configuration.

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<VoiceProfileInstance InstanceID="2" DTMFMethod="RFC2833" PSTNFailOver="1" Region="CN" STUNServer="" X_ATP_STUNServerPort="5006" X_API_FaxOption="T.38 FAX" X_API_PSTNNUMBER="" X_API_AssignTransmitPriority="3" X_API_VoiceTOSPriority="184" X_API_VOIPNUMBER="" X_API_Supported2833FAX="0" X_ATP_Impedance="" X_ATP_FaxSpecification="1" X_ATP_ModemEventReportDelay="0" X_ATP_FaxNegoMode="1">
<SIP ProxyServer="" ProxyServerPort="5060" RegistrarServer="10.225.0.1" RegistrarServerPort="5060" UserAgentDomain="ims.tm.com.my" RegisterExpires="3600" RegisterRetryInterval="10" X_ATP_PrackSupport="1" X_ATP_UrgencyUsePriority="1" X_ATP_SessionExpires="1800" X_ATP_MinSessionExpires="90" X_ATP_SecondProxyServer="" X_ATP_SecondProxyServerPort="5060" X_ATP_SecondRegistrarServer="" X_ATP_SecondRegistrarServerPort="5060" X_ATP_SecondUserAgentDomain="huawei.com" X_ATP_HoldMethod="0" X_ATP_InterfaceName="" SIPEventSubscribeNumberOfElements="0" X_HW_BackRingPattern="4294967295" X_HW_SharpTransToASCIIEnable="0" X_HW_AutoActiveHoldSession="1" X_HW_SupportMultiMedia="1"/>
<Line NumberOfInstances="1">
<ObjExtention MaxInstanceNum="1"/>
<LineInstance InstanceID="1" Enable="Enabled" DirectoryNumber="+60171111111" Status="Disabled" CallState="Idle" X_ATP_SIPLocalPort="5068" X_ATP_OutgoingPhyList="0" X_ATP_IncomingPhyList="0" X_ATP_MWISubscribeURI="" X_ATP_NumberDisplayType="0" X_ATP_RegeditAction="0">
<CallingFeatures X_ATP_PrivacyLevel="6" CallWaitingEnable="1" MWIEnable="1" MaxSessions="2" X_ATP_EnableSharpKey="1" X_ATP_HotLineNumber=""/>
<SIP AuthUserName="+60171111111@ims.tm.com.my" AuthPassword="123456" ClipMode="1" X_ATP_PublicUserName=""/>
</LineInstance>


You can use the above settings as reference. As for SIP password, it's 6 digits... If you really can't get it, I suggest you can try brute force method. It should work...

Will try to extract the detail on newer BTU...
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QUOTE(thankyou @ Jul 25 2020, 11:32 PM)
I got the SIP credential on old HG850a configuration.

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<VoiceProfileInstance InstanceID="2" DTMFMethod="RFC2833" PSTNFailOver="1" Region="CN" STUNServer="" X_ATP_STUNServerPort="5006" X_API_FaxOption="T.38 FAX" X_API_PSTNNUMBER="" X_API_AssignTransmitPriority="3" X_API_VoiceTOSPriority="184" X_API_VOIPNUMBER="" X_API_Supported2833FAX="0" X_ATP_Impedance="" X_ATP_FaxSpecification="1" X_ATP_ModemEventReportDelay="0" X_ATP_FaxNegoMode="1">
<SIP ProxyServer="" ProxyServerPort="5060" RegistrarServer="10.225.0.1" RegistrarServerPort="5060" UserAgentDomain="ims.tm.com.my" RegisterExpires="3600" RegisterRetryInterval="10" X_ATP_PrackSupport="1" X_ATP_UrgencyUsePriority="1" X_ATP_SessionExpires="1800" X_ATP_MinSessionExpires="90" X_ATP_SecondProxyServer="" X_ATP_SecondProxyServerPort="5060" X_ATP_SecondRegistrarServer="" X_ATP_SecondRegistrarServerPort="5060" X_ATP_SecondUserAgentDomain="huawei.com" X_ATP_HoldMethod="0" X_ATP_InterfaceName="" SIPEventSubscribeNumberOfElements="0" X_HW_BackRingPattern="4294967295" X_HW_SharpTransToASCIIEnable="0" X_HW_AutoActiveHoldSession="1" X_HW_SupportMultiMedia="1"/>
<Line NumberOfInstances="1">
<ObjExtention MaxInstanceNum="1"/>
<LineInstance InstanceID="1" Enable="Enabled" DirectoryNumber="+60171111111" Status="Disabled" CallState="Idle" X_ATP_SIPLocalPort="5068" X_ATP_OutgoingPhyList="0" X_ATP_IncomingPhyList="0" X_ATP_MWISubscribeURI="" X_ATP_NumberDisplayType="0" X_ATP_RegeditAction="0">
<CallingFeatures X_ATP_PrivacyLevel="6" CallWaitingEnable="1" MWIEnable="1" MaxSessions="2" X_ATP_EnableSharpKey="1" X_ATP_HotLineNumber=""/>
<SIP AuthUserName="+60171111111@ims.tm.com.my" AuthPassword="123456" ClipMode="1" X_ATP_PublicUserName=""/>
</LineInstance>


You can use the above settings as reference. As for SIP password, it's 6 digits... If you really can't get it, I suggest you can try brute force method. It should work...

Will try to extract the detail on newer BTU...
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I got from alcatel btu, hopefully, the same one for Huawei. Yesterday, the Internet come up directly after tech configure the password. But for sip he need to call the center to reconfigure at back end. After 5 min then voip can use.

But still cannot test unless I can find a way for Huawei btu to exposed the vlan 400 to one of the lan port.

SFP still no budget to buy.. Got car insurance renewal this month..

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Also, from the Huawei config backup got the password. But it's encrypted.
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QUOTE(aneip @ Jul 26 2020, 07:28 PM)
Also, from the Huawei config backup got the password. But it's encrypted.
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Yes you're right... Tried to telnet to grab the password but H8240H is pretty much locked down.

One way is to use older BTU to obtain pass...
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Yes you're right... Tried to telnet to grab the password but H8240H is pretty much locked down.

One way is to use older BTU to obtain pass...
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I was trying to Cracking HG8240H5 via UART header, have missing 2 resistor, add 100Ohm and display but no input accept.

The hash is look like Base64 with B85 extension, example:
CODE
<X_HW_CLIUserInfo NumberOfInstances="1">
<X_HW_CLIUserInfoInstance InstanceID="1" Username="root" Userpassword="$211e$LpZ`P3NI3NC.+x025rO)GrxpQ!&gt;*Px,|#2q=Q|Y8F.)AEG&apos;]0\&quot;KFm4=e1lt5%&lt;g&quot;K6&apos;:&gt;D&amp;91HPei:4Y`!)3*52Q9U}XS9G$" UserGroup="" ModifyPWDFlag="0" EncryptMode="2" Salt="6545bfb1aa7bb6d13ca10c1c"/>
</X_HW_CLIUserInfo>


Look into hash:
CODE
$211e$LpZ`P3NI3NC.+x025rO)GrxpQ!&gt;*Px,|#2q=Q|Y8F.)AEG&apos;]0\&quot;KFm4=e1lt5%&lt;g&quot;K6&apos;:&gt;D&amp;91HPei:4Y`!)3*52Q9U}XS9G$


that have HTML Entity &gt &apos &quot &amp, decode HTML entity, get this Base64.B85:
CODE
$211e$LpZ`P3NI3NC.+x025rO)GrxpQ!>*Px,|#2q=Q|Y8F.)AEG']0\"KFm4=e1lt5%<g"K6':>D&91HPei:4Y`!)3*52Q9U}XS9G$


Beginning 2 character $2 is every hashed password= field.

To Generate Base64.B85 from a text pretty simple in python:
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import base64
import hashlib

data = 'The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog.'
m = hashlib.md5(data.encode('ascii'))
h = base64.b16encode(m.digest())
b = base64.b85encode(m.digest())

print(h)
print(b)


When run, get this:
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anime4000@umiko-ng:~$ python3 base85encode.py
b'5C6FFBDD40D9556B73A21E63C3E0E904'
b'TyOi`K-pDmbD|z&!{F%z'


Not sure how reverse.

Since we know CLI login root password is adminHW

Maybe can reverse encryption from known password?
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QUOTE(Anime4000 @ Jul 26 2020, 11:39 PM)
I was trying to Cracking HG8240H5 via UART header, have missing 2 resistor, add 100Ohm and display but no input accept.

The hash is look like Base64 with B85 extension, example:
CODE
<X_HW_CLIUserInfo NumberOfInstances="1">
<X_HW_CLIUserInfoInstance InstanceID="1" Username="root" Userpassword="$211e$LpZ`P3NI3NC.+x025rO)GrxpQ!&gt;*Px,|#2q=Q|Y8F.)AEG&apos;]0\&quot;KFm4=e1lt5%&lt;g&quot;K6&apos;:&gt;D&amp;91HPei:4Y`!)3*52Q9U}XS9G$" UserGroup="" ModifyPWDFlag="0" EncryptMode="2" Salt="6545bfb1aa7bb6d13ca10c1c"/>
</X_HW_CLIUserInfo>


Look into hash:
CODE
$211e$LpZ`P3NI3NC.+x025rO)GrxpQ!&gt;*Px,|#2q=Q|Y8F.)AEG&apos;]0\&quot;KFm4=e1lt5%&lt;g&quot;K6&apos;:&gt;D&amp;91HPei:4Y`!)3*52Q9U}XS9G$


that have HTML Entity &gt &apos &quot &amp, decode HTML entity, get this Base64.B85:
CODE
$211e$LpZ`P3NI3NC.+x025rO)GrxpQ!>*Px,|#2q=Q|Y8F.)AEG']0\"KFm4=e1lt5%<g"K6':>D&91HPei:4Y`!)3*52Q9U}XS9G$


Beginning 2 character $2 is every hashed password= field.

To Generate Base64.B85 from a text pretty simple in python:
CODE
import base64
import hashlib

data = 'The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog.'
m = hashlib.md5(data.encode('ascii'))
h = base64.b16encode(m.digest())
b = base64.b85encode(m.digest())

print(h)
print(b)


When run, get this:
CODE

anime4000@umiko-ng:~$ python3 base85encode.py
b'5C6FFBDD40D9556B73A21E63C3E0E904'
b'TyOi`K-pDmbD|z&!{F%z'


Not sure how reverse.

Since we know CLI login root password is adminHW

Maybe can reverse encryption from known password?
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It's a salted hash so I'm not sure if it's worth to work on it biggrin.gif
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Can confirm the SIP password is the same with old ALC BTU. I disable phone port 1.. Fields in the info on port 2 with the password from ALC. SIP reg successfully..

Now if can find the way to expose vlan 400 to port 1 as trunk together with 500 & 600 than can use external ATA.. Or maybe bind to any other port (2-4) on BTU.
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QUOTE(thankyou @ Jul 23 2020, 02:49 PM)
Apologies, I have very limited knowledge on TIME FTTH. Can you share the ONU provided to you? or it's just a media converter?

I think RB2011UiAS-IN is good enough for All-In-On solution! Mikrotik just work fine with this GPON Stick.
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TIME FTTH - Huawei EchoLife HG8240H GPON Terminal

Looks like its the general one that everyone seems to have.
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