And wait for delivery 1-2 months..haha....

This post has been edited by stasio: Jan 20 2021, 01:31 AM

True

Hi all. Just got a Sony x90h and a sony z9f soundbar. Woould like to check the following :

1. I plan to connect my PS5 to the tv. Is it better to connect the console directly to the TV or via the Soundbar passthrough?

2. For the hdmi cable for the soundbar, what cable should i look for that contains the eARC standards. Accordingly all HDMI 2.1 cables have eARC but i understand the newer hdmi 2.0 cables may have this inside. Any specifics i should be looking out for?

Thanks for any advices.

[quote=terryfu,Jan 20 2021, 08:20 AM]
Hi all. Just got a Sony x90h and a sony z9f soundbar. Woould like to check the following :

1. I plan to connect my PS5 to the tv. Is it better to connect the console directly to the TV or via the Soundbar passthrough?

2. For the hdmi cable for the soundbar, what cable should i look for that contains the eARC standards. Accordingly all HDMI 2.1 cables have eARC but i understand the newer hdmi 2.0 cables may have this inside. Any specifics i should be looking out for?

Thanks for any advices.

i connect console to the TV via HDMI 4. Soundbar via HDMI 3. So far no issue.

Z9F if u encountered drop out. i suggest u wired the SW. 😁

Originally ordered a 75 inch x900h but HN told me to wait long long (March).

Only one available is 85 inch and I confirmed the order

Oh crap I got the Q800T too.

Did u manage to fix it

X95 is a very different beast than X90.

In the environment of showrooms , not only the ambient light shroud your eyes but also reduce perceived contrast .
Therefore it is literally impossible to determine Picture Quality in the store .

I keep bringing contrast back to the topic because that is what makes pictures pop from the screens . When we find something looking good , it is usually because the contrast is strong.

There is also the matter of these looping DEMO is tailored to hide the flaws of TV , typically featuring large bright and colorful objects against a dark background to project a sense of contrast .
Most of these are " easy jobs " for TVs and will not be representative of your actual viewing experience .


The real challenge lies in extremely bright /dark scenes where the TV need to precisely dim down or brighten up a smaller portion of area , such as scenes with small shiny stars in the space which are rarely featured in LCD TV demos .



No .

People are tired of me repeating myself so I will just throw these diagram here .

X90H


X95H



As you can see , the X90H technically has a faster S.O.C than the flagship X95 but it lacks a major co-video processing chip code named BE4K [Bravia Engine 4k] in the diagram .
Hence everything on X90H from audio , OS and PPP are handled solely by that chip .

Despite of the extra juice , these will translate into loss of Picture Quality here and there .

When you compare it against the flagship TVs which the OLEDs usually are , the difference become more distinct especially in HDR scenes .


Even if we disregard everything we had discussed above , the nature of self emissive tech still provides OLED with edges such as fast pixel response times leading to dramatic reduction of blur, impressive wide viewing angles and wider coverage of colorspace among other features .

These are no subjective opinions . Unless you are colorblind , you can clearly perceive many of these advantage such as less blurs , more colors palette even if you are not professional colorist .

Of course if both screens are looping the default demos , it would be hard to tell since most TV demos are designed to hide the flaws of LCD TVs , contrary to popular belief .
If you want to test the TV capabilities thoroughly , bring your own test clips . A few 480p and a couple of clips from the recent LOTR remastered collection should do the job .


This is quickly escalating into a comparison of OLED VS LCD , which is NOT my original intention.

X90H is a decent TV with a lot of features and its primary focus is on gaming , not picture quality .
Just don't expect it to match , say an OLED CX or A8H . That is just not rational .

This post has been edited by Convael: Jan 21 2021, 02:04 PM

OLED CX and A8H is a best OLED TV in 2020. For best picture clarity, A8H is the best, but for gaming feature such as VRR and ALM support, CX is you best bet.

This post has been edited by minimize: Jan 20 2021, 11:08 PM

Come come buy support my company

What company is that? And more importantly got staff discount or not? Hahaha

Thanks for the explanation. I understand about the contrast but not color volume. What does color volume do? Is that the reason why some says the Sony OLED has better picture quality than the LG?

On my being impressed by the Sony 950G, I was comparing it to the Samsung and LG LED in the store.

Convael, can you give me the X90H service maintenance manual PDF from where you get the diagram above?

what company ah? which tv u selling?

Thanks for the diagram. Help understand the tv connections better. EARC i believe its at HDMI 3 port (arrow looks like its at HDMI 4)

You talking about this ?

My company make those TVs staff discount during staff sale only (October) but don't know this year got or not.

Color volume is the range of brightness of the colors .

We have seen TV reviews with reports on DCI-P3 / REC 2020 being shown often .
Think of that as a color palette . Color volume provides another perspective to that color palette , how much brightness and saturation can the display pump into that specific color .

Usually the color volume of the TV is closely tied with the color gamut and brightness of the TV .
Obviously if you don't have that specific color in your palette at all , you cannot show how bright / dim that color is .


Now more so that ever , color volume is more important to HDR TV because we have pushed past the old 100 /120 nits SDR limit .
More life-like and saturated colors can be seen on your screen now , provided it has the specs to do so .

It is typically a strong point of very bright TV with FALD , particularly those high end Quantum dots TV where they can display very bright and very dark colors without problems .


No , it just happens that Color Volume is actually a known weakness suffered by LG 's OLED [and Sony's OLED too because it is using the same TV panel ].


A typical RGB OLED pixel should have great coverage on all aspect of colors .
Current OLED TV panel has added a white pixel on top of the RGB to boost its brightness but this white pixel will dilute the color saturation as the screen get brighter .

If you are talking about Pixel Contrast Booster found on Sony 's Flagship , they've somehow found a way to restrain the dilution by limiting energy pumped into the white pixel .
This does not solve the problem but it give them a bit more color saturation at the cost of being less bright .

Fundamentally they are still using LG 's OLED panels so there isn't much they can do until LG decides to revamp the Pixel Structures .

IMO Sony OLEDs are now tied with LG , it does better in some area but losing out in some other area .
There are always fanbois who will defend their favorite TV brands , pay those no minds .

This post has been edited by Convael: Jan 21 2021, 12:36 PM

I find most picture setting too bright. So what if I turn down the OLED light setting, would I get more saturated color?

No .

If you turn down the brightness , you will also reduce the dynamic range and the picture will pop less than what it should be .

The loss of color saturation is not such a huge deal as most LED LCD TV tend to have poor color volume as well .
But it is something to consider for those OLED cultist who are trashing other LCD TVs.


Again we are talking about HDR exclusively here , OLED has almost perfect rendition for all SDR content (and colors) .

This post has been edited by Convael: Jan 21 2021, 01:50 PM

Yes, thanks so much!