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zack.gap
post May 28 2020, 01:56 PM

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Looking for a pure no-frills standalone medical card.

I’m a 30 year old bank exec (group covered), single and a casual smoker. No pre existing medical conditions.

Budget is 3k/year and hoping to get the widest coverage with highest single bed R&B. No investment-linked plan pls. I do my own stock picking. Hope any sifus here can help me out.
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post May 28 2020, 03:23 PM

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QUOTE(GE-DavidK @ May 28 2020, 03:01 PM)
For your budget of 3k/year, you can easily get an investment-linked with coverage for life insurance, critical illness, waiver and hospitalisation.

As for standalone medical card with the highest single bed R&B and annual limit, it can be done with approximately RM100 per month.
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Thanks for your reply! I'm planning on getting a separate life insurance plan but not just yet. Main priority is to shop for the best medical card in the market in the event I get diagnosed with anything. Do medical cards generally not cover critical illnesses?
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post May 28 2020, 03:36 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ May 28 2020, 03:31 PM)
1K plus already can get quite higher and decent amount of coverage and room rate.

The widest coverage only can come from your own saving. Insurance always has its specific scope of coverage, it cannot cover everything.
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Is it advisable then to buy multiple medical cards from different providers so that coverage is more comprehensive (as in can use such and such medical card in event of that specific disease) ?
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post May 28 2020, 03:47 PM

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QUOTE(GE-DavidK @ May 28 2020, 03:41 PM)
For medical card, usually just one medical card will do as the annual limit is usually more than enough to be future proof. As for life insurance/critical illness policies, it is common to own multiple policies at one time.

In some cases, like clients who bought medical card 10 years ago, their annual limit could be as low as RM50k per year. It would be wasteful to terminate the old medical card and get a totally new one, so we usually advise to get a second medical card with deductible to supplement the first one.
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So would a good solution in this case be to get a good main medical card (AIA maybe since almost everywhere is accepted with those stickers) as well as a secondary deductible medical card (given that deductible cards are cheaper?)
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post May 28 2020, 04:24 PM

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QUOTE(GE-DavidK @ May 28 2020, 04:01 PM)
A good medical card usually has the following features:

- No deductible
- High annual limit (At least one million to be future proof)
- Covers outpatient cancer treatment and kidney dialysis
- No lifetime limit

There would be no need for a secondary medical card if the first medical card can cover for everything. I would advise to increase your life insurance or critical illness coverage as your second policy.
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I was advised by another forummer above that I run the risk of not being fully covered if I were to put all my eggs in a proverbial basket?

Also as discussed David, pure term life insurance can be bought for cheap online since BNM mandated the offering. Am planning to do so but at a much later date. Frankly I don't feel the critical illness payout is important since the bulk of the cost would be in treatments anyway which ought to be covered by the medical card no?
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post May 28 2020, 04:50 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ May 28 2020, 04:44 PM)
You need to understand each insurance function.

Life insurance - is to cover your loss of income once you dead, or CI, it is mainly a income replacement that may important to support your family after you died.
But if you have no income currently, or family doesn't rely your income to support their daily life, then life insurance priority become less.

Medical insurance - is to prevent a sudden shock of medical bill needs for illness, but subjected to with medical card coverage. Not all medical bill will be covered across, just like my above dental bill example.

CI insurance - an income replacement to support your life after CI.

Each insurance has its own specific function and scope of coverage. No such thing of total comprehensive coverage on everything. It is not like I have insurance, I need not to worry anything already, or don't need to pay any bills further.
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Noted and thanks for the explanation Cherroy!

Can I ask which medical card did you personally get? We can talk in PM if you want to discuss it privately

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post May 28 2020, 04:54 PM

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QUOTE(lifebalance @ May 28 2020, 04:28 PM)
rolleyes.gif that person may meant that
1. Insurance company not honoring the claims
2. The insurance plan may not cover all aspect (which may be true as not all insurance plan are the same, some medical card may be more comprehensive on certain type of diseases).

Then again we ask ourselves, the industry is governed by BNM, how far can an insurance company deny a claim if it’s genuine?

I’m sure the insurance company also won’t simply reject a claim unless otherwise.

As per your second question.

As per your statement, critical illness is a form of income replacement in the event you succumb to any of the critical illness. Your medical card may cover for the hospitalization cost, but what comes after you’re discharged ?

if you’re unable to work for a period of time then that’s a loss of income. if you have a strong savings account then you’ll rely on it.

However if you don’t, then the payout from the critical illness will help you out
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Cherroy has clarified and I've understood thanks.

No fear on rejection of claims. Just want the best medical card in the market within the specified budget. Don't really want life insurance, critical payout and investment linked because it's unnecessary bloat to the premium I'll be paying. If need be I'll add on the critical coverage payout later on but right now more focused on the medical card per se.

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