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wykoh2
post Nov 24 2020, 08:29 PM

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QUOTE(T231H @ Nov 23 2020, 10:20 AM)
Subsequently on the same year, another hospitalization incurred 20k, it's covered under B as the earlier 120k is already fulfilled......
does it mean this 120k deductible under B is applicable for 1x per year?

like example.
Jan hospitalized RM150k, claim 150k, the bill will be fully covered as Part B's 120k deductible is already taken from A's 120k.

May hospitalized RM20k, claim 20k, the bill will be fully covered as it's covered under B as the earlier 120k is already fulfilled by A's claim in Jan.

Oct hospitalized RM400k, claim 400k, the bill will be fully covered as Part B's 120k deductible is already taken from A's 120k in Jan.?
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If you refer to HLA insurance, i think it is written deductible per year, so the bill in Oct will be cover by Part B.

You can always write to the customer service to clarify this. Then you will have black and white if there is any issue about claim in the future

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post Nov 28 2020, 09:12 PM

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QUOTE(eeesiang @ Nov 27 2020, 11:24 PM)
Yes. I do have it. I literally flipped them over and over again for at least one month before I came to my own conclusion.  puke.gif
Well...I can come into understanding that agents do have their limitation.
And I don't think it's wise for them to tell me off by asking me to DIY, since we customer rarely understand how the system or management runs.
But that's what exactly agent exists for, right? To assist and direct us to the appropriate channel upon request.

As I mentioned previously, I particularly asked for the annexure/terms of some additional riders, which are added later and hence not available in the original policy booklet.
If they are obtaining from the customer service the same way I did, it doesn't add up on how I can get the complete doc (endorsement letter + annexure) within 3 working days, while agency spent 3 weeks just to send me the endorsement letter?
I mean, you are basically living off as an insurance agency, and you should have the relatively easier access to the information than any ordinary customer, no?

Down in my heart, I kinda grasped the situation: I'm just holding on a 16-years-old ILPs which has no intention to bring them any sales in but just some extra workloads. You get what I'm saying?  sad.gif

I think I might have sounded a little harsh here. But it's nothing personal. Hope you can understand that I just want to vent out some frustrations...
Thank you for all the suggestions.  notworthy.gif
Just for clarification, I attempted to ask the Prudential CS officer for help when my parent & I went together to service center to get our transfer of ownership done.
And she is the ONE that referred us back to our agent cuz she claimed it involved conflict of interest and hence, cannot be done.

I do have the physical copy of policy booklet and I can read all the info that I need.

It's just those additional riders being added later, e.g. Pru Med Enhancer, PruMajor Med Plus (medical related riders for Prudential) are not within my finger tips.
And I don't mean to be offensive here, but just a little rant about PruAccess portal:
(1) frequent server down causing failure to login
(2) add-on R&B, annual limit, lifetime life not UPDATED/REFLECTED to my actual coverage, in the online portal
e.g. Pru Med Enhancer supposed to R&B+50, AL+12.5k, AL+37.5k
(3) unable to check the breakdown of premiums payment in details
Excuse me for making this a tedious post. I really appreciate all the constructive feedbacks given in response to my concerns.
You guys are awesome!  thumbup.gif
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Understand what you had gone thru. I also had a 16-year-policy with HLA. The customer service also say unable to give me any brochure related to my policy. My mum refuse to give absolute assignment to me, only did conditional assignment, which makes me very hard to obtain any information as the owner of the policy need to request, but i m the one paying for the premium since 5 years ago.
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post Nov 29 2020, 05:20 PM

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QUOTE(eeesiang @ Nov 29 2020, 11:23 AM)
I am not familiar with the other companies, but Prudential ILP will transfer the ownership by default from the parent to the child insured right after your 25th birthday.
They will send out the notification & relevant forms to fill up when the time is ready. I assume that life insurance companies generally should be the same.
I'm not entirely sure about your circumstances, I have never heard of this "conditional assignment" either...?
Perhaps you can consult with the CS on this matter?

For my case, I never thought that I could attain the complete document thru the general inquiry. It was sort of like last resort to me.
Cuz back in my mind, insurance policy was all about personalization, and I assumed agent is the gateway to those information.

When I was lack of info on my old policy, and I realized my agent is not my ally to begin with (yes, sarcasm intended) I googled intensely using different keywords hoping to capture some old brochure/annexure in the internet. I managed to put together some scattered info from old brochure & discussion in forums, at least better than nothing.
Perhaps you could try it, too since you have limited access to the information.
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Conditional assignment is when the policy owner (my mum) pass away then only I become the policy owner.

Absolute assignment is they transfer the policy owner to a new person / can be anyone include the insured person (i think can only transfer when the new person is 18 years old).

HLA dont have automatic transfer policy as far as I concerned.

Since my medical card is R&B RM100, annual limit RM50k, lifetime limit RM150k and outpatient kidney & cancer RM30k, and cover until 70 years old only, i plan to have premium holiday and let the insurance cease itself then I bought a new insurance with better medical card before it cease. (Coz I cannot do cash withdrawal or surrender it, my mum dont let me surrender, saying the old insurance policy is good)

Ps: She bought from Hong Leong Bank, and the manager had left the branch. If not I will sure find out the agent who sign up my mum.

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post Nov 29 2020, 11:26 PM

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Dear all,

Wanna ask is “Alternative Cancer Treatment” important? I realise it appears in the recent ILP medical card
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post Dec 6 2020, 08:26 PM

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QUOTE(taiping... @ Dec 6 2020, 07:24 PM)
Hi Ck

I am worried to bout my health at 60
But i guess am taking the risk
I hav a question tho to confirm
If i were to buy since i was 30 and the premium i pay at 60
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If i were to buy at 60 and pay premium at 60

Will there be a big difference in premium at 60?
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My humble opinion, u can buy the medical card that have very high deductible now (to reduce your premium payment), and can convert to zero deductible at age of 60. Like this you no need to worry about your health at 60 years old.

So far I knowHLA MediShield III and Allianz Medisasfe Infiniti + got these benefit... But I am not sure the minimum premium for these ILP insurance. If you get quote from your agent, can share here coz I am curious to know also the minimum premium.

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post Jan 8 2021, 01:07 PM

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If I am the policy holder for my child, can I claim income tax for the premium paid? Life&medical insurance

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post Jan 8 2021, 01:10 PM

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QUOTE(milleu @ Jan 5 2021, 05:46 PM)
does anyone have experience disputing insurance claim before?

i hit the wall with the insurance

now submitting to the OFS.wonder if you guys have any experience with OFS?
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They replied quite fast via email. Just provide what they request will help you to escalate the issue
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post Jan 22 2021, 04:15 AM

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Hi, anyone can update on the private hospitalise for covid patient? I saw my AIA agent friend update that only AIA accept private hospitalise for covid patient?

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