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farizmalek
post Apr 22 2020, 10:19 AM

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I am not sure if our insurance is ok or not.

Insurance: Prudential BSN Takaful Health Enrich Premier

Age taken: 38y (H&W), 10y (Dotter). Healthy and no illness at that time.

Now: 44y & 16y


Coverage per person: -

Age: Until 80y (If I am not mistaken)

Lifetime limit: RM4,080,000

Annual limit: RM200,000

Preferred Hospitals: Suite Room

Other Hospitals: Deluxe/Single room. Need to pay RM300 as a deposit before warded. Will get back the money from PBSN.

Warded Allowance per day: RM200

Treatments/Clinic: 90 days after warded. Pay first and claims later to PBSN

Death/Disability/Critical Illness: Will get only about RM10K. This insurance covered more on the medical only.

However, if husdand or wife is contacted with the 36 critical illness automatically both premiums will be waived by PBSN for life and no need to pay premium for dotter until she is 21 or 25 years old (Can’t remember).

If dotter is contacted with the 36 critical illness, automatically dotter premium will be waived for life by PBSN. Not sure if premiums for H&W will be waived too. Need to check later.

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post Apr 22 2020, 10:29 PM

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QUOTE(farizmalek @ Apr 22 2020, 10:19 AM)
I am not sure if our insurance is ok or not.

Insurance: Prudential BSN Takaful Health Enrich Premier

Age taken: 38y (H&W), 10y (Dotter). Healthy and no illness at that time.

Now: 44y & 16y
Coverage per person: -

Age: Until 80y (If I am not mistaken)

Lifetime limit: RM4,080,000

Annual limit: RM200,000

Preferred Hospitals: Suite Room

Other Hospitals: Deluxe/Single room. Need to pay RM300 as a deposit before warded. Will get back the money from PBSN.

Warded Allowance per day: RM200

Treatments/Clinic: 90 days after warded. Pay first and claims later to PBSN

Death/Disability/Critical Illness: Will get only about RM10K. This insurance covered more on the medical only.

However, if husdand or wife is contacted with the 36 critical illness automatically both premiums will be waived by PBSN for life and no need to pay premium for dotter until she is 21 or 25 years old (Can’t remember).

If dotter is contacted with the 36 critical illness, automatically dotter premium will be waived for life by PBSN. Not sure if premiums for H&W will be waived too. Need to check later.
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In 2014, there were not much attractive offer from the insurance companies. Now so many and affordable.
farizmalek
post Apr 23 2020, 02:08 PM

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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Apr 22 2020, 11:38 PM)
Get the medical report & the receipt, fill in the accident claim form. Done.
Product wise, the newer policies would definitely be better.

You have a choice to look into your existing insurance company whether they can offer you an upgrade or you can seek elsewhere if you wish to change your insurance company.
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cannot already have illness
farizmalek
post Apr 24 2020, 05:33 AM

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QUOTE(ckdenion @ Apr 23 2020, 04:17 PM)
hi farizmalek, for your post here, you mean you and your daughter both have insurance plan stated for each of you, am i right?

if you will to ask me, the medical card isn't that bad with a RM200k annual limit. my concern for you is more on life insurance. you might wanna look into this risk management planning as well other than risk of forking out medical expenses. try discuss with your Prudential agent, that will help you a lot.
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Thank you for your feedback. Yes, the medical insurance each covered for self, wife and my dotter.

The purpose of my posting is whether our current medical insurance is sufficient. We bought it in 2014 and that was one of the best at that time. Now i am 44 and to change to a new and better one will be expensive. Beside that o have already have illness although not that serious.

As a back-up, my wife is Pegawai Kerajaan and I have GL for government hospital (From my wife). Plus my sister (adik) is a specialist in UITM Hospital, Selayang (not hospital selayang). Plus without the GL from my wife, i am still covered for life for free from the government because I already donated blood more than 50 times to National Blood Center.

In term of life saving, as a seaman before and also working overseas, currently I have cash: RM3,223,000 in my KWSP and ASNB. All my properties, land and cars were fully paid (No loans) and no credit card debt or personal loans.

I am still working.

My question is that, do i need to upgrade/change my medical insurance and also to get a life insurance from my condition above.
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post Apr 24 2020, 05:51 PM

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QUOTE(Cyclopes @ Apr 24 2020, 10:09 AM)
In short, I believe your family has good coverage currently for medical. You may want to relook on life insurance for yourself and estate planning/wasiat.
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Thank you. I will maintained my current medical insurance and rel-look into the wealth and life ins.
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post Apr 24 2020, 05:51 PM

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QUOTE(tyenfei @ Apr 24 2020, 02:22 PM)
Sounds good for you.

Will suggest you look into critical illness coverage. Also wealth & legacy planing.
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farizmalek
post Apr 25 2020, 08:08 PM

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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Apr 25 2020, 10:28 AM)
The premium you have saved won't be much considering you will be paying much more once you get older, whatever you have assume to "save" during the 25 period from 30 to 55 years old may be marginal against being diagnosed with any illnesses in between.

The insurance cost difference yearly of a 30 year old and 55 year old is probably about RM1000?

Again, Insurance is managing your own risk. If you think the next 25 years, nothing will happen to you. Then so be it.
Hi Fariz, from your more elaborated explanation, your medical coverage will be sufficient for now, since you are able to get coverage from Government especially your wife is a government servant.

With the age of 44 now and a sum of money in KWSP and ASNB, it will continue to snowball for you to a bigger sum in the future to cover your retirement and medical expenses (should any illnesses arise).

You can consider to look into building a legacy for your family should anything happen to you earlier.
There is no such thing unfortunately as medical expenses is a big variable cost to the insurance company.

It's like telling a wan tan mee seller to fix their price at RM5 in 2020 until year 2100 for the same portion. Would you think it's logical ?
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farizmalek
post Apr 25 2020, 08:10 PM

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QUOTE(ahwai @ Apr 25 2020, 07:31 PM)
Hi fariz,
My client same age as you 44yo
He purchase from me
Annual limit: RM 2,200,000
Lifetime limit: Nil
R&B : 400
Overseas Treatment : RM 1,000,000

Premium : RM 1,821 per annum
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Thank you. Maybe I will take for my dotter and wife since I already have illness.. Please pm me for further details.
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post Apr 30 2020, 11:11 AM

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QUOTE(Ewa Wa @ Apr 29 2020, 09:33 PM)
Although u are buying a RM150-Room (twin sharing room in most hospital in Malaysia), u still can stay above Rm150-room just u need to pay the room different e.g stay in a RM250 room then u need to pay the addition of RM100/day. But do check back your policy, some upgrade of room need to pay 20% co-insurance. read back to the policy T&C.
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post May 1 2020, 11:59 AM

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QUOTE(db07mufan @ Apr 30 2020, 10:14 PM)
anyone with Great Eastern here, I have a 10 year old medical plan which i would like to cancel. My agent is no longer in the industry so am wondering who i can deal with for this
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me too. My agent was my uncle last time. He passed away.
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post May 2 2020, 12:12 AM

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AIA Medical Insurance A-Plus Health (Deductible)

Eligibility
Malaysian and Permanent Resident of Malaysia

# of Panel Hospitals
82

Maximum age of entry
70

Maximum age of renewal
99

Guaranteed Renewal - Yes

Co-Insurance - No

Deductibles Apply - Yes

Can anyone advise the pro and cons if taking this AIA insurance. Thanks
farizmalek
post May 2 2020, 03:42 PM

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QUOTE(lifebalance @ May 2 2020, 10:51 AM)
Plans from AIA are good so far, the coverage are quite comprehensive although cost of insurance maybe on a higher side.

What will be your main concern ?
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I am looking to change my wife and dotter medical insurance. Their are still healty. Me cannot already. WHat is deductible?
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post May 2 2020, 03:44 PM

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QUOTE(lifebalance @ May 2 2020, 10:51 AM)
Plans from AIA are good so far, the coverage are quite comprehensive although cost of insurance maybe on a higher side.

What will be your main concern ?
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and my concern is whether this will be a good medical card compare to others and any hidden disadvantages that I should know about. Thanks
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post May 2 2020, 03:45 PM

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QUOTE(ckdenion @ May 2 2020, 12:20 PM)
hi fariz, you are looking at their latest medical plan which comes with many other perks if you sign up for AIA Vitality as well. wink.gif
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i am looking for cheap but good coverage medical card.
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post May 2 2020, 04:59 PM

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QUOTE(lifebalance @ May 2 2020, 03:47 PM)
A deductible is a fixed cost that you share with the insurance company in the event of a claim, depending on the amount of deductible that you opted, you need to pay that amount first and the balance is paid by the insurance company.
Major disadvantage I don’t think so with the newer medical cards, though they have different benefits offered for outpatient.

My advise is for you scout around if you would like to know the pros and cons or seek a independent financial advisor that does not side with any insurance company to give you the best solution.
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alright thank you Tuan
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post May 3 2020, 10:30 AM

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QUOTE(ckdenion @ May 3 2020, 10:17 AM)
hi fariz, if you are comparing COI, cheaper ones are Prudential, GE and HLA. For AIA, Allianz and Manulife, the COI is slightly higher but of course the benefits differs too.
hi afif, i'd never heard of 'loss of license' policy. for AIA latest medical card, you can actually find it on google.

as of life insurance, it will be more on risk management planning based on your current lifestyle and needs. (MLTA is actually life insurance termed as MLTA)
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post May 4 2020, 06:54 AM

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QUOTE(Cyclopes @ May 4 2020, 05:33 AM)
Do read up on the Health Wallet and how Vitality can add value to your AIA Medical Plan.
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post May 4 2020, 07:11 AM

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https://www.aia.com.my/content/dam/my/en/do...rochure_1st.pdf

Is this insurance ok?



one of the Q&A in the AIA website:-

06: WILL MY COST OF INSURANCE INCREASE
AS I GET OLDER?

As the Cost of Insurance for A-Plus Health is
deducted depending on your attained age, it will
increase as your age increases.


Is this mean that every year the premium will be increased as per the table below...

user posted image
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post May 4 2020, 07:12 AM

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QUOTE(farizmalek @ May 4 2020, 07:11 AM)
https://www.aia.com.my/content/dam/my/en/do...rochure_1st.pdf

Is this insurance ok?
one of the Q&A in the AIA website:-

06: WILL MY COST OF INSURANCE INCREASE
AS I GET OLDER?

As the Cost of Insurance for A-Plus Health is
deducted depending on your attained age, it will
increase as your age increases.
Is this mean that every year the premium will be increased as per the table below...

user posted image
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Thank you and appreciate for any advise...
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post May 4 2020, 03:32 PM

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QUOTE(Cyclopes @ May 4 2020, 08:48 AM)
Good morning,

Yes, the cost of insurance will follow as per the table. The cost of insurance is not guaranteed. This is the current rate, any changes to these table, say three years from now, you will be charged the new rates with 3 months notice. That's the standard industry practice, same with other insurers also.
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Thank you Tuan

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