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chichabom
post Jul 17 2020, 12:47 AM

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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Jul 16 2020, 04:40 PM)
Room 550
Annual Limit 1,000,000
No lifetime
Yearly premium 3600
coverage up to 100 years old
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Does this mean those age 65 who is generally healthy is able to get a medical card with annual limit of rm1mil for only 300 per month? this is standalone card?

As example, was looking at the new revised COI charges for an insurance company and the medical premium for a RM200k annual limit for age 65 male and female is already RM5.5k and RM4.7k per year. The premium for age 66-70 is even way higher hitting the next age category.

Putting both side by side, your quote is providing 5x more limit coverage with only a fraction of the premium, sorry just trying to understand such huge discrepancy out there in the market
chichabom
post Jul 17 2020, 08:37 AM

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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Jul 17 2020, 01:31 AM)
Yes of course.

nod.gif it depends on who you engage as an advisor that can optimize your budget and provide optimal coverage.
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this is something new to me. had always thought that medical premium across companies is more or less the same with probably only plus minus 10% variance since everything is highly regulated


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post Jul 17 2020, 11:50 AM

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QUOTE(Holocene @ Jul 17 2020, 10:04 AM)
It depends who you work with, some agents would propose a higher premium to entice client with projected higher cash value when it comes to Investment Linked Insurance.

The agent could also be proposing a standalone medical card hence it is by its nature having a lower premium as compared to an ILP.

It really comes down to knowing which product benefits your financial situation.

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if putting premium aside and looking from COI angle, can i assume that the medical COI will be the same be it a standalone or ILP, say for e.g. a healthy individual aged 40 has the following alternatives:-

1) standalone medical plan with annual limit of RM1mil
2) ILP medical rider with annual limit of RM1mil

from medical coverage standpoint only, is the COI the same for either options above?

if the above is true, then i foresee if the sustainability of an ILP is at stake in the future, one will have the flexibility to "restructure" his/her existing ILP akin to a standalone medical card, i.e. keeping only the medical rider and very bare minimum of life coverage?

ok seems like my 3 post per day is up. till the next 12 hours..
chichabom
post Jul 25 2020, 10:03 AM

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May i ask for both standalone medical and ilp medical rider, are they all subject to premium loading i.e. if one has made a substantial claim previously then insurance company will renew your policy at a much higher premium in the future due to the higher risk involved?

For those guaranteed renewal policy, does this mean insurance company is obliged to renew your policy however it may be subject to additional premium loading?
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post Jul 25 2020, 10:25 AM

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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Jul 25 2020, 10:08 AM)
Yes, there will be medical repricing that will affect both the term and ILP medical rider. Due the many factors such as high claim rate, inflation in medical cost, and many other factors

A guaranteed renewable policy is an insurance policy feature that ensures that an insurer is obligated to continue coverage as long as premiums are paid on the policy.

So it has nothing related to premium loading/repricing
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In other words premium loading or medical repricing is something that affects all insurance holders should there be a revision and is not individual specific? Meaning to say if an individual has a history of high claim rate, an insurance company cannot just increase the premium specifically for his/her case?

Also appreciate if any agent here can provide a quote for a standalone medical of at least 1mil coverage and life coverage of say 300k. Age 35 non smoker


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post Jul 25 2020, 11:47 AM

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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Jul 25 2020, 10:56 AM)
It will affect everyone who bought policy under that insurance company. I.e Company Insurance A decides to increase 15%, it will may not be affecting Company Insurance B.

The insurance company would have charge necessary loading for those policy holder who have sub standard health (risk of higher claim) thus it's already accounted for.

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Annual Limit 1m
No lifetime
Yearly 743
Life you're looking into term or ILP ?

if Term, you better go search up the insurance company online website to buy yourself.
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Thanks lifebalance. For the standalone medical, mind to pm me the expected premium schedule by age so i could make some comparison? TQ.

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