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Cyclopes
post May 17 2020, 08:23 PM

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QUOTE(ajin999 @ May 16 2020, 08:23 PM)
Hallo sir. Currently only ride on company medical benefit.
age 28 and executive.

Could you elaborate on the fund history? do i need to select the fund or what?

Sorry noobies here

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Hi Ajin,
Your Life Planner will recommend appropriate funds for you, and if you are knowledgeable about Funds in general, you can discuss which Funds to invest.
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post May 17 2020, 09:20 PM

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QUOTE(darkueki @ May 17 2020, 12:49 AM)
Hi , I would like to seek answer what my agent said is true or not.About one week ago, my agent contacted me and said the insurance company doing offer by let me change the current policy from prulife ready to pruwithyou with medical no waiting period.As my existing policy was only 1 million for life time, then I agreed to shift to new policy.
Currently there are 2 policy , one old and one new, the old policy premium revised to lower.
Then I asked my agent  , do I still need to pay for old policy, she said no need but I afforable , I can pay it and the cash value will be more.
I felt weird why to keep the old policy as she mentioned my medical benefit transfer to new .
She answered me it is better to keep and the surrender value will just reduce a bit when I surrender 2 years later.
Can I have advise if I dont pay the old policy premium , will it really be like what my agent said, the surrender value will just reduce a little as only cost of insurance charges.
I attached screenshot but as she replied in Chinese  so hope got people can help.

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Your old policy will still be active as long as the cash value is sufficient to pay the insurance cost.

You also mentioned above that the agent said "no waiting period" when you were offered the upgrade.

Given that advice, I would assume your new plan should be sufficient, without needing to maintain the old policy. But do seek re-confirmation from her that the use of the medical plan is immediate.

This post has been edited by Cyclopes: May 17 2020, 10:08 PM
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post May 17 2020, 10:52 PM

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QUOTE(ajin999 @ May 16 2020, 06:42 PM)
Hi, i never take any insurance before.

Been quote this from AIA(life link). Is it ok?

Pampasan kematian - 500k
Pampsan TPD - 500k
Pampasan penyakit kritikal accelerated 250k
Age limit 70
Cash value at 70 : 16k
Waiver and save : inclusive

Monthly : 300
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What’s your age ?

What liabilities are you covering for yourself?

What is your objective ?

QUOTE(rebornyama @ May 17 2020, 07:18 AM)
Hey guys,

I got laid off a while back and my extended medical coverage benefit will soon expires. Looking at the options available online, it seems like most medical card only covers hospital visits?

Are there takaful/insurance plan that covers GP/private clinic visit? Not really concerned about hospital visit tbh since worse case scenario still got govt hospital, but visiting govt clinic for the occasional flu/ailments is too much of a hassle.

tldr: need coverage for GP/clinic visits
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You only get gp coverage if it’s a company medical card, personal medical card only covers for hospitalization


QUOTE(darkueki @ May 17 2020, 09:40 AM)
Hi Tyenfei,, thank for your explanation,  I understood the importance of keeping existing medical policy, but I have doubt on no need to pay the premium , if dont pay the premium, really the policy will still active as what my agent said, only deduct cost of insurance?
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What it means is that your policy goes into premium Holiday whereby it deducts your account value to pay for the cost of insurance

This is not free as it mean it deducts your money that you have In your investing account.


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post May 18 2020, 12:07 PM

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Hi guys, wanna seek your advice.

GE advised me to increase my premium. What if i dont want to?
The FAQ only mentioned they highly recommend me to but did not mention if i dont want. And my agent barely do anything..

Its weird that i am the only one to increase but my family didnt. We bought the same plan but different coverage.
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post May 18 2020, 12:27 PM

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QUOTE(Taeee @ May 18 2020, 12:07 PM)
Hi guys, wanna seek your advice.

GE advised me to increase my premium. What if i dont want to?
The FAQ only mentioned they highly recommend me to but did not mention if i dont want. And my agent barely do anything..

Its weird that i am the only one to increase but my family didnt. We bought the same plan but different coverage.
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You can choose not to increase your premium payment, but there are implications, eg, it may affect the sustainability of your policy...may lapse due to insufficient cash value.
Provide more details so that others can give better suggestions.
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post May 18 2020, 02:30 PM

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QUOTE(Taeee @ May 18 2020, 12:07 PM)
Hi guys, wanna seek your advice.

GE advised me to increase my premium. What if i dont want to?
The FAQ only mentioned they highly recommend me to but did not mention if i dont want. And my agent barely do anything..

Its weird that i am the only one to increase but my family didnt. We bought the same plan but different coverage.
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hi Taeee, for GE, all Smart Medic Xtra medical card got price revision starting 1st June 2020. your family members having the same medical card?

of course it will be more recommended to increase the premium. if you don't reply the letter, company will treat it as you don't agree to increase premium amount. so if you do not want to increase your premium, your plan will lapse earlier due to the increased of medical card cost of insurance.

for example, if you are willing to increase premium, the policy will sustain say until 78 years old. now with the increase of COI and not increasing the premium, your policy will sustain till 72 years old only. this is just an example ya. wink.gif
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post May 18 2020, 04:25 PM

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QUOTE(Taeee @ May 18 2020, 12:07 PM)
Hi guys, wanna seek your advice.

GE advised me to increase my premium. What if i dont want to?
The FAQ only mentioned they highly recommend me to but did not mention if i dont want. And my agent barely do anything..

Its weird that i am the only one to increase but my family didnt. We bought the same plan but different coverage.
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Hi

If you don't increase your premium then your policy may lapse earlier due to insufficient money to maintain the policy at the same premium that you are paying now.

Chances are teh insurance company increased their cost of insurance or your plan differs from your other family member
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post May 18 2020, 04:37 PM

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QUOTE(ckdenion @ May 18 2020, 02:30 PM)
hi Taeee, for GE, all Smart Medic Xtra medical card got price revision starting 1st June 2020. your family members having the same medical card?

of course it will be more recommended to increase the premium. if you don't reply the letter, company will treat it as you don't agree to increase premium amount. so if you do not want to increase your premium, your plan will lapse earlier due to the increased of medical card cost of insurance.

for example, if you are willing to increase premium, the policy will sustain say until 78 years old. now with the increase of COI and not increasing the premium, your policy will sustain till 72 years old only. this is just an example ya. wink.gif
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Ya, we have the same medical card.

Guess i have no choice but to increase it le. Anyway, thanks your advice


QUOTE(lifebalance @ May 18 2020, 04:25 PM)
Hi

If you don't increase your premium then your policy may lapse earlier due to insufficient money to maintain the policy at the same premium that you are paying now.

Chances are teh insurance company increased their cost of insurance or your plan differs from your other family member
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Noted. Our plan is same eh only coverage different.
Thanks for the advice tho
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post May 18 2020, 05:43 PM

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QUOTE(ckdenion @ May 16 2020, 04:23 PM)
ok then let me just assume you are 30 this year. I used online life insurance Fi Life (underwritten by Tokio Marine) to do this comparison with a simple ILP life insurance.

1. Fi Life Yearly Renewable Term (YRT) is the one that pays lesser now and premium will increase according to age (refer future premium rate).
2. Fi Life Level Term (LT) whereby premium is fixed for the following 20 years.
3. ILP whereby premium is non-guaranteed (yes for all ILP premium is non-guaranteed due to non-guaranteed fund performance).

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Based on 500k life insurance for 20 years assuming you buy at the age of 30. The total cost for
1. Fi Life Yearly Renewable Term (YRT): RM34,316
2. Fi Life Level Term (LT): RM31,188
3. ILP: RM31,200 (have an estimation of cash value of RM25k at the end of 20th year)

The above cost also assumed if you don't do any investment. So i factored if you have RM35k now and you are investing in a 6% p.a investment vehicle and at the same time you are using the amount here to pay for the yearly premium. End of the 20th year, you will have more if you bought an ILP.

1. Fi Life Yearly Renewable Term (YRT)
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2. Fi Life Level Term (LT)
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3. ILP
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do let me know if there are other online life insurance products that you are looking at so i can analyze for you wink.gif
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thanks!

looks like ILP is more worth it in this case if it comes with the same coverage.

however which ILP are you using to benchmark against YRT and LT by fi?
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QUOTE(Taeee @ May 18 2020, 04:37 PM)
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company is actually issuing the letter of notification batch by batch. some receives earlier some later. yea if you want to increase the premium as per stated in the letter, just reply the letter will do and pass it to your agent for submission wink.gif

QUOTE(responsible poster @ May 18 2020, 05:43 PM)
thanks!

looks like ILP is more worth it in this case if it comes with the same coverage.

however which ILP are you using to benchmark against YRT and LT by fi?
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it's just an usual ILP plan with no riders attached. purely life insurance just like the term life insurance. for the comparison is if you are going to take 20 years term ya. if you will like to go further until 70/80 years old or until 99, then the outcome will be different. so yea knowing the term is definitely helpful for your planning wink.gif
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post May 19 2020, 12:47 AM

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hi all, i'm considering to get an insurance for our soon to be out baby.

1. What to take note in this kind of insurance?
2. How much would be a decent amount for the baby's coverage?

And am currently looking at GE Smart Baby Shield, PRU My Child Plus.

Would like to know if any experience parents can share me some tips? Thanks a lot!
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post May 19 2020, 12:50 AM

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QUOTE(itv_mark5 @ May 19 2020, 12:47 AM)
hi all, i'm considering to get an insurance for our soon to be out baby.

1. What to take note in this kind of insurance?
2. How much would be a decent amount for the baby's coverage?

And am currently looking at GE Smart Baby Shield, PRU My Child Plus.

Would like to know if any experience parents can share me some tips? Thanks a lot!
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1. Coverage for the baby especially for any new born ailments I.e jaundice
2. Starts from 250 monthly for a decent one

Both plans are quite okay but GE will be quite the latest.


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post May 19 2020, 01:08 AM

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QUOTE(lifebalance @ May 19 2020, 12:50 AM)
1. Coverage for the baby especially for any new born ailments I.e jaundice
2. Starts from 250 monthly for a decent one

Both plans are quite okay but GE will be quite the latest.
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GE will be quite the latest meaning?
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post May 19 2020, 01:11 AM

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QUOTE(itv_mark5 @ May 19 2020, 01:08 AM)
GE will be quite the latest meaning?
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In terms of launch date compared to the other companies.

Normally product that launch later will have slightly better benefits than other products which may be older. This is to outshine the other insurance companies, but may sometimes be more expensive due to the higher benefits.
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post May 19 2020, 09:46 AM

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QUOTE(itv_mark5 @ May 19 2020, 12:47 AM)
hi all, i'm considering to get an insurance for our soon to be out baby.

1. What to take note in this kind of insurance?
2. How much would be a decent amount for the baby's coverage?

And am currently looking at GE Smart Baby Shield, PRU My Child Plus.

Would like to know if any experience parents can share me some tips? Thanks a lot!
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hi itv_mark5, how many weeks already?
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post May 19 2020, 10:03 AM

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QUOTE(itv_mark5 @ May 19 2020, 12:47 AM)
hi all, i'm considering to get an insurance for our soon to be out baby.

1. What to take note in this kind of insurance?
2. How much would be a decent amount for the baby's coverage?

And am currently looking at GE Smart Baby Shield, PRU My Child Plus.

Would like to know if any experience parents can share me some tips? Thanks a lot!
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1. If the pregnant mother is within 13 -35 weeks of gestational period (3 to 9 months of pregnancy period), the coverage should include pregnant complications and death of mother.
- Ensure that waiver rider for both payer and child is included for the child's medical card.
- Ensure Junior critical illness (eg. coverage for Kawasaki Disease) and congenital diseases are included in the coverage.

2. Depending on your needs and budget. I would advise 50k to 100k life for baby is a good starting point. Take note that for the first 5 years, child lien will apply where only a percentage of life sum assured is paid. For example, if the baby pass away in the first year, only 20% of sum assured will be paid.

3. GE Smart Baby Shield is a rider for SmartProtect Junior (Medical card for children). Smart Baby Shield will cover for the mother during pregnancy period (if the policy is inforce within 13 to 35 weeks of pregnancy period) and coverage up to age 5 of the baby for any congenital diseases.


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QUOTE(itv_mark5 @ May 19 2020, 12:47 AM)
hi all, i'm considering to get an insurance for our soon to be out baby.

1. What to take note in this kind of insurance?
2. How much would be a decent amount for the baby's coverage?

And am currently looking at GE Smart Baby Shield, PRU My Child Plus.

Would like to know if any experience parents can share me some tips? Thanks a lot!
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Good morning,
If the expecting mother is below 35 weeks, you may want to include prenatal care (eg AIA Baby Care) when considering the type of cover as it also provides for pregnancy complications. Upon the birth, ideally the baby should be covered for critical illness too. The decent amount of coverage can depend on the budget and what your plans are for the child.

This post has been edited by Cyclopes: May 19 2020, 12:23 PM
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post May 19 2020, 11:48 AM

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QUOTE(GE-DavidK @ May 19 2020, 10:03 AM)
1. If the pregnant mother is within 13 -35 weeks of gestational period (3 to 9 months of pregnancy period), the coverage should include pregnant complications and death of mother.
- Ensure that waiver rider for both payer and child is included for the child's medical card.
- Ensure Junior critical illness (eg. coverage for Kawasaki Disease) and congenital diseases are included in the coverage.

2. Depending on your needs and budget. I would advise 50k to 100k life for baby is a good starting point. Take note that for the first 5 years, child lien will apply where only a percentage of life sum assured is paid. For example, if the baby pass away in the first year, only 20% of sum assured will be paid.

3. GE Smart Baby Shield is a rider for SmartProtect Junior (Medical card for children). Smart Baby Shield will cover for the mother during pregnancy period (if the policy is inforce within 13 to 35 weeks of pregnancy period) and coverage up to age 5 of the baby for any congenital diseases.
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There is also another one whereby mothers pay for their own medical card and the child attaches to the mother's medical card till he is 21 yrs old. I think my sister has this. paying rm 380 for self , whereby rm80 is for the child. and lifetime limit is RM1M.


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post May 19 2020, 07:00 PM

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QUOTE(drbone @ May 19 2020, 11:48 AM)
There is also another one whereby mothers pay for their own medical card and the child attaches to the mother's medical card till he is 21 yrs old. I think my sister has this. paying rm 380 for self , whereby rm80 is for the child. and lifetime limit is RM1M.
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As for SmartProtect Junior, the unborn child is the main insured person which comes with coverage for the mother during pregnancy period. The policy will run for whole life for the child with unlimited lifetime limit. Of course, the premium will be higher than RM80 as the policy is expected to cover up to age 100 for the child.
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My foot is pain, clinic Dr advise to have blood test body check. I have a plan(not sure whether it is possible) which is use my medical card to masuk hospital stay 1/2 days and ask to full body check up.

Is it possible? Is the blood test, body checking can claim? Bought the medical card for few years but never use before...

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