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post Mar 27 2020, 10:47 PM

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QUOTE(hft @ Mar 27 2020, 10:11 PM)
Can claim due to stress staying at home?
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Haha don't think so
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post Mar 29 2020, 07:33 PM

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QUOTE(Aurora Boreali @ Mar 28 2020, 08:09 PM)
Question on changing nominees: currently my nominee is my sibling, but I want to change it. Do I have to get their signature? Because when I nominated them, they don't know about it. And now because our relationship has soured, I want to revoke their nomination. Question is as above, do they need to agree and sign on the change of nominee form?

Edit: More information from this PDF file: http://www.insuranceinfo.com.my/_system/me...nominations.pdf
And from here: https://www.rockwills.info/insurance-policy...on-in-malaysia/
So then, in the case of a sibling nominee, if in my will, I specify a different person (not my sibling, as nominated in my insurance policy) as the beneficiary of insurance payout, my sibling can only receive the money and will need to pass the money to the executor for him to distribute according to my will?
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If you're still single then it's a non trust policy if you nominate your sibling, if you would like to change it, you can do so by filling up the nomination form to revoke the earlier nomination.

QUOTE(smokymcpot @ Mar 28 2020, 10:09 PM)
Hi everyone,
I am currently using pruhealth plan and my annual limit is 100k but life time limit is 1 million.
I wanted to upgrade to a plan with no annual limit and focuses purely or mostly on just the medical card and prefer to have as little investment as possible.

My agent recommended me to get pru value med, would this fit my needs?

Thanks!
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It will however its an investment policy plan so if you're looking for minimal investment then you may need to look for standalone medical card like aia a med regular.

The Pru value med comes with high limit but will have 20% Co insurance once you exceeds that amount.
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post Mar 30 2020, 04:40 PM

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QUOTE(RAL @ Mar 30 2020, 03:27 PM)
Hello,

Please find details as follows:

Myself: DOB 8th July 1986; Occupation: Sr. Business Development Manager

Wife: DOB 5th March 1991; Occupation: Market Dev. Executive
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Hi, which country are you from and how long have you been working in Msia ?
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post Mar 30 2020, 07:19 PM

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QUOTE(RAL @ Mar 30 2020, 05:17 PM)
I'm from India & working in Malaysia since 2018
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Are you looking for long term stay or short term?
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post Mar 31 2020, 10:36 AM

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QUOTE(ezryezan @ Mar 30 2020, 11:56 PM)
Hello all !

I'm surveying an insurance right now and not sure which is good but currently looking at Great Eastern takaful product called i-Great Aman.

1. I would like to know if its the right Company to start my insurance journey with due this is my first insurance ? Any tips ?

2. Do I always need to depend on my agent ?

3. Will there be any issues that I will face for claiming or hospitalisation when needed ?

4.Here is what were offered to me as below:

Monthly contribution: RM 200
Yearly contribution: RM 2400
Perlindungan Total Permanent Disability/Death : RM 60,000
Manfaat Khairat Kematian : RM 2,000
Manfaat Tambahan Pampasan penyakit kritikal : RM 25,000
Manfaat Kematian Kemalangan : RM 10,000
Manfaat Cacat Kekal Kemalangan : RM 10,000
Manfaat Emergency Accident Outpatient Treatment : RM 3,000

Medical Card Benefit
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✔Room & board RM150
Coverage up to 180 days
✔Annual limit RM 900,000
✔Lifetime limit = Unlimited
✔Full coverage Takaful (100% Great Eastern Takaful cover)
✔Hospitalisation Benefit. Daily Cash Allowance RM100, tambahan RM50 jika mendapat rawatan di hospital kerajaan.
✔Manfaat waiver. -Sekiranya peserta didiagnos salah satu dari 45 penyakit kritikal atau cacat kekal, caruman takaful peserta akan dipercumakan sehingga berumur 70 tahun.

Saving fund
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10YRS - RM 9,588
15YRS - RM 16,811
20YRS - RM 22,819
30YRS - RM 25,260

Free Car Assistance program: 1 No. Plate Kereta
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GE medical benefits are a little outdated compared to other insurance company.

You don’t really depend on agent nowadays unless when it comes to claims or change of info.

Agents job is to give a sound financial advise from time to time
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post Mar 31 2020, 03:47 PM

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QUOTE(ezryezan @ Mar 31 2020, 02:46 PM)
So we also need to depend on our agent a bit for the claims and process. I heard there is some cases that when the agent is no more with the Company, that time the person under the agent will face some difficulties right ?

Thank you for your kind advice.
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If that agent resigns, your file is passed to his superior / unit manager to manage. Your policy won't face difficulty but depends on that unit manager wants to service you or not.

QUOTE(ezryezan @ Mar 31 2020, 02:51 PM)
Thank you for your advice on GE. So, I need to explore other Insurance as well.

Can you explain more details about not depending on agents ? I really need to more.
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You basically DIY on your claims / filling of forms to make any changes at the Branches / HQ if you don't want to go through your agent.
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post Apr 6 2020, 09:02 PM

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QUOTE(xeon1989 @ Apr 6 2020, 07:49 PM)
I'm helping few of my families to pay. They don't have MY-AIA portal account.
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You can get your info from the agent for the full policy number
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post Apr 8 2020, 10:46 AM

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QUOTE(darksin_90 @ Apr 6 2020, 11:08 PM)
I was quoted by GE and Pru agent with the following plan,

Pru
Life: RM 100,000
160 types CI: RM 100,000
Accidental death & disablement: RM 30,000
Accidental Medical Reimbursement: RM 3,000
Medical card:
1) Room: 200
2) Annual Limit: RM 1,380,000
3) Co-insurance: RM 300
4) Sustainability - 70 YO
Monthly premium: RM 250

GE
Life: RM 100,000 +1%p.a. + cash value
45 types CI: RM 100,000 (early payout)
Accidental death & disablement: RM 15,000
Medical Allowance: RM 100 per day
Medical card:
1) Room: 200
2) Annual Limit: RM 1,320,000
3) Sustainability - 80 YO
Monthly premium: RM 270

I am in dilemma don't know which to go for confused.gif

By the way, I am 1992, M, non smoker, class 1
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What will be your main priority / concern of coverage at the moment ?

QUOTE(xeon1989 @ Apr 8 2020, 01:05 AM)
Thanks for sharing.
I asked my family to get full policy number from agent, apparently there are some numbers hidden behind the policy number shown in previous bill...  vmad.gif
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normally without the last 2 digit also can transact. Maybe regards to payment now it's more sensitive.
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post Apr 16 2020, 12:41 PM

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QUOTE(RAL @ Apr 16 2020, 12:24 PM)
Hey Guys,

Sorry to barge into the discussion. But out of curiosity, is there any option to insure baby in the womb as well?

And, if there any insurance plan that covers baby in the womb + mother?

Please share recommendations.
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yes there is, you can look into prudential / AIA for the plan.
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post Apr 16 2020, 04:26 PM

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QUOTE(RAL @ Apr 16 2020, 03:24 PM)
can you recommend some plans, please?
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For aia you can try lady 360 with a life joy
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post Apr 17 2020, 01:34 PM

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QUOTE(RoGuEWaVe @ Apr 17 2020, 12:47 AM)
Hie... Looking for suggestions for life insurance.
Planning to take 2M coverage for life and 500k for critical illness. Is it advisable to take under 1 company or multiple company ex 500k per comp to diversify. Kindly advise
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QUOTE(RoGuEWaVe @ Apr 17 2020, 11:30 AM)
All this while i was tinking to take under 1 comp until someone came up with diversity, reasons incase in future cant handle the committee u still will have partial insurance then losing all in 1 go
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It will still be the same when it comes to payout of the claims.

There is a questionnaire for you to declare how much you're currently being covered for insurance, even if you don't, they will be able to detect on your coverage by LIAM. So it doesn't matter if you buy from 1 or multiple companies, you will still be required to declare on your financial status or health if it exceeds certain limit.

In order for me to do a quote for you, I need the following info

Age, Gender, Occupation, Smoker or Not.
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post Apr 20 2020, 01:41 AM

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QUOTE(Onioncapsium @ Apr 19 2020, 12:48 AM)
Hi,
Need advice:

My existing policy as below
Prudential
Life: RM 100,000
43 types CI: RM 100,000
Accidental death & disablement: RM 100,000

Medical card:
1) Room: 200
2) Annual Limit: RM 1,380,000
Monthly premium: RM 250

Currently my agent propose me to top up RM100, the new coverage as below
Life :RM200,000
160 types CI :RM 100,000 (x4 times)
Medical remain same coverage
Is it advisable to topup?

Thank you.
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Any insurance top up is always good, I fact you should find out if the amount you're topping up is the right amount suitable for you and sufficient to cover all your risk at hand.

The. You're good to go

QUOTE(dallasugg @ Apr 19 2020, 05:32 PM)
Just wondering, consider the following hypothetical scenarios:

John signed up a standalone medical card (Assuming no investment component) at 25yo. 5 years later at 30, the cost of insurance charged to John is RM1,000.

On the other side, Bob signed up the same plan with a good health without any pre-existing illness at the same point at 30yo. Will bob be charged the same cost of insurance as John?
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Yes because term insurance charges base on your age. Even if you're at good health for the last 5 years and Bob just sign up recently at 30.

But the question is if Bob had been hospitalized 2 years ago then he may not be eligible to make a claim or buy an insurance if its a severe health problem.

QUOTE(jiaen0509 @ Apr 19 2020, 08:06 PM)
Want to know, if buy life insurance 500k show online RM70/month at younger age.

If until age 40 or 50 something. The monthly fee is still the same or will increase every few year?
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Yes because it's a term insurance, it will increase over time
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post Apr 20 2020, 02:40 PM

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QUOTE(dallasugg @ Apr 20 2020, 01:57 PM)
So in short of I'm reading your comments correctly, on the presumption that Bob has a healthy body when he signed up the same policy plan at 30yo, he will get charged the same Cost of Insurance as per John who is 30yo too (Who signed up 5 years ago).

So the conclusion here is that so long that you always have a healthy body (Assumption), you will never be charged a higher premium (for same age) for purchasing a medical insurance on a later date as compared to someone who purchased the same much earlier.

Of course, the catch in medical card is that if you sign up later, you run the risk of 1. rejection of getting insured, 2. not covering a pre-existing illness.

With that being case, doesn't it mean that the usual street saying that goes "Buy insurance younger because it cheaper" is invalid?
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Apr 20 2020, 02:28 PM)
Insurance is cheaper when you are young. - Correct.
But it never said, you buy at young age, and premium will stay cheaper or the same when you are old. - Insurance never tells you this statement neither.

In fact, insurance company already list out table big and clear regarding the premium needs to be paid at each age group and never tell you premium will stay forever the same, especially for medical. 

Why someone can interpret as "buy insurance early or young so that it can stay cheaper or at the same" is beyond my understanding.
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Yea cherroy pretty much summed it up smile.gif
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post Apr 22 2020, 11:15 AM

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QUOTE(jiaen0509 @ Apr 21 2020, 10:07 PM)
If I have Accidents Insurance.

If I suddenly fall down, get injured or twist my foot. Can I make a claim? Can I go to the normal clinic or must go hospital only can claim the insurance?

Let say I go to normal clinic, fee is RM100.
Insurance claims back RM100?
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You can claim under the accidental medical reimbursement benefit depending on your amount that is claimable under your policy.

QUOTE(CoronaV @ Apr 22 2020, 06:32 AM)
Company insurance comparing with medical card insurance and critical illness.

Say company gave you insurance benefits like hospitalisation according to your position and grades and also free panel clinics. Will it be necessary to have own medical insurance assume working till retirement 55 years old.

Tq
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Depending on your budget and insurability. It’s advisable to get a personal insurance coverage Because you might be retrenched, retire, laid off, Sacked from your company one day and lose any insurance benefit. You may also be not eligible to buy any insurance at that point of time if you are halving serious health problems.

QUOTE(farizmalek @ Apr 22 2020, 10:19 AM)
I am not sure if our insurance is ok or not.

Insurance: Prudential BSN Takaful Health Enrich Premier

Age taken: 38y (H&W), 10y (Dotter). Healthy and no illness at that time.

Now: 44y & 16y
Coverage per person: -

Age: Until 80y (If I am not mistaken)

Lifetime limit: RM4,080,000

Annual limit: RM200,000

Preferred Hospitals: Suite Room

Other Hospitals: Deluxe/Single room. Need to pay RM300 as a deposit before warded. Will get back the money from PBSN.

Warded Allowance per day: RM200

Treatments/Clinic: 90 days after warded. Pay first and claims later to PBSN

Death/Disability/Critical Illness: Will get only about RM10K. This insurance covered more on the medical only.

However, if husdand or wife is contacted with the 36 critical illness automatically both premiums will be waived by PBSN for life and no need to pay premium for dotter until she is 21 or 25 years old (Can’t remember).

If dotter is contacted with the 36 critical illness, automatically dotter premium will be waived for life by PBSN. Not sure if premiums for H&W will be waived too. Need to check later.
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I’m sorry I am not able to advise just by talking about a policy alone.

Understanding your personal finance is more important for me to advise you on financial matters.
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post Apr 22 2020, 11:38 PM

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QUOTE(jiaen0509 @ Apr 22 2020, 03:03 PM)
Anyone have experience to claim Personal Accidents?

The medical report is? Just ask the clinic doctor to provide? Easy to get?
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Get the medical report & the receipt, fill in the accident claim form. Done.

QUOTE(farizmalek @ Apr 22 2020, 10:29 PM)
In 2014, there were not much attractive offer from the insurance companies. Now so many and affordable.
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Product wise, the newer policies would definitely be better.

You have a choice to look into your existing insurance company whether they can offer you an upgrade or you can seek elsewhere if you wish to change your insurance company.
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post Apr 25 2020, 10:28 AM

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QUOTE(taiping... @ Apr 23 2020, 06:12 PM)
Pls excuse me if I’m ignorant
Example: firstly, I’m covered by my company both life and medical. By the time I’m 55, there will b an amount that I’ve saved up for insurance. I then use this amount to purchase insurance at the age of 55 (let’s say)

Secondly, if I were to buy insurance at 30years old or 55 years old, the premium would roughly be the same? If not how much difference is the premium? The money saved for 30 to55 years old, could b use to purchase insurance at 55 years old
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The premium you have saved won't be much considering you will be paying much more once you get older, whatever you have assume to "save" during the 25 period from 30 to 55 years old may be marginal against being diagnosed with any illnesses in between.

The insurance cost difference yearly of a 30 year old and 55 year old is probably about RM1000?

Again, Insurance is managing your own risk. If you think the next 25 years, nothing will happen to you. Then so be it.

QUOTE(farizmalek @ Apr 23 2020, 02:08 PM)
cannot already have illness
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QUOTE(farizmalek @ Apr 24 2020, 05:33 AM)
Thank you for your feedback. Yes, the medical insurance each covered for self, wife and my dotter.

The purpose of my posting is whether our current medical insurance is sufficient. We bought it in 2014 and that was one of the best at that time. Now i am 44 and to change to a new and better one will be expensive. Beside that o have already have illness although not that serious.

As a back-up, my wife is Pegawai Kerajaan and I have GL for government hospital (From my wife). Plus my sister (adik) is a specialist in UITM Hospital, Selayang (not hospital selayang). Plus without the GL from my wife, i am still covered for life for free from the government because I already donated blood more than 50 times to National Blood Center.

In term of life saving, as a seaman before and also working overseas,  currently I have cash: RM3,223,000 in my KWSP and ASNB. All my properties, land and cars were fully paid (No loans) and no credit card debt or personal loans.

I am still working.

My question is that, do i need to upgrade/change my medical insurance and also to get a life insurance from my condition above.
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Hi Fariz, from your more elaborated explanation, your medical coverage will be sufficient for now, since you are able to get coverage from Government especially your wife is a government servant.

With the age of 44 now and a sum of money in KWSP and ASNB, it will continue to snowball for you to a bigger sum in the future to cover your retirement and medical expenses (should any illnesses arise).

You can consider to look into building a legacy for your family should anything happen to you earlier.


QUOTE(smallikanbilis @ Apr 25 2020, 02:43 AM)
May I know is there any medical insurance where the insurance charges (not just premium) are fixed for the rest of your life?
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There is no such thing unfortunately as medical expenses is a big variable cost to the insurance company.

It's like telling a wan tan mee seller to fix their price at RM5 in 2020 until year 2100 for the same portion. Would you think it's logical ?
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QUOTE(alfredhow78 @ Apr 28 2020, 12:15 PM)
Anyone know if this is even possible? Let say currently i am on AIA. The coverage is RM1.1mil and room&board is rm150(which I think this is a lil bit bothers me everytime i need to hospitalized, have to wait for room, else they will assign me to shared room.

And face amount is 40k

Paying rm380+ month

Is that possible if i get a better policy with AIA, without having to do a full body check up again?
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Unless you have health problem, otherwise you are not required to do a medical check up.
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QUOTE(mackerelisgreat @ Apr 28 2020, 01:46 PM)
Hello, I’m new to the forum and need advice with the insurances I currently have. I would like to apologize in advance if my questions are very dumb. 🙏🏼

I have AIA Lifelink 2 and it comes with a medical card, these are the details:

A-LIFELINK 2
Coverage Amount: RM 100,000.00
Effective date: 17-DEC-2018
Expiry date: 17-DEC-2094
Premium: RM 200.00
Premium cease date: 17-DEC-2094

And then I bought another life insurance, the PB WealthElite:

PB WEALTHELITE 20PAY@70
Coverage Amount: RM 500,000.00
Effective date:24-JUN-2019
Expiry date: 24-JUN-2064
Premium:RM 266.25
Premium cease date: 24-JUN-2039

I’m a freelance translator and the company I worked with has terminated all translation work yesterday. I’m still in shock right now because that was my sole income. Right now, I would to have some money in my bank account in case of emergencies, so I’m thinking of cancelling the PB WealthElite. I’m not sure when this pandemic will be over and when I will have a proper job, so I would like to know if it is alright to cancel it or not, since I already have AIA Lifelink? I think both insurances have similar coverage (correct me if I’m wrong 🙏🏼), just that the coverage amount for PB WealthElite is higher. I need advice hahahah thank you! 😭
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You may choose to do a partial withdrawal if you still want to keep the insurance policy for Pb wealth, otherwise if you drastically need the funds and have no other choice then you may choose to surrender the policy for now until your finances are stable again.
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QUOTE(kazekage_09 @ Apr 29 2020, 12:25 PM)
Hi all.

Can I know whether the COI is same or not between standalone and ILP in same company? I heard that COI of standalone is higher than ILP.

Let say for example for 30 years old male non smoker for 500k term life compared to 500k life ILP plain plan with no other riders. The premium for sure will be different but I eager to know their COI is same or not each year.

And whether it also same if compared between online products and tru agents.

Thanks!
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The COI varies from different companies depending on the medical card benefits, the best way to compare is to look into the COI table provided by the insurance company.

QUOTE(db07mufan @ Apr 30 2020, 10:14 PM)
anyone with Great Eastern here, I have a 10 year old medical plan which i would like to cancel. My agent is no longer in the industry so am wondering who i can deal with for this
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You can walk in to GE or give them a call to find out how you can surrender during the MCO

QUOTE(farizmalek @ May 1 2020, 11:59 AM)
me too. My agent was my uncle last time. He passed away.
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Same as above

QUOTE(MiKE7LIM @ May 1 2020, 08:09 PM)
RM250 monthly
Benefits Payout
1 Life/TPD-100K
2 Critical Illness-150K
3 Early Critical Illness-100K
4 Diabetes Recovery-20K
5 Cancer Recovery-35K
Hospitalization & Surgical (Med Card
6 Room-150 daily
7 Annual Limit-850K
8 Lifetime Limit-Unlimited
Others Benefits
9 Waiver-Yes (in the event diagnose with CI, premium will be waive but still continue to enjoy the benefits)
10 Savings/Cash Value-Yes

Hi , above plan for single male - 30 years old should be ok right
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Hi, the plan looks okay

QUOTE(Chyan @ May 1 2020, 09:44 PM)
Hi all,

I'm currently 28. Class 1 job. Non-smoker.

I only have MP Generali health insurance from my employer.
I searched around and sieved through what I found interesting and ended up with these two.

1. AIA A-Plus Health
2. Allianz Medisafe

I wonder can I get a good enough ILP for below RM180?
So far from my understanding, standalone packages tend to be more expensive along the years that is why I'm leaning towards ILP.
I have not engaged with an agent yet. Thought of getting some opinion in Lyn first.
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Hi

ILP plan may look cheaper because of the investment return over the long term compared to a stand-alone but is not necessarily cheaper.

Based on the above mentioned age, you can get it within RM180 but the term of coverage may be shorter
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QUOTE(farizmalek @ May 2 2020, 12:12 AM)
AIA Medical Insurance A-Plus Health (Deductible)

Eligibility
Malaysian and Permanent Resident of Malaysia

# of Panel Hospitals
82

Maximum age of entry
70

Maximum age of renewal
99

Guaranteed Renewal - Yes

Co-Insurance - No

Deductibles Apply - Yes

Can anyone advise the pro and cons if taking this AIA insurance. Thanks
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Plans from AIA are good so far, the coverage are quite comprehensive although cost of insurance maybe on a higher side.

What will be your main concern ?

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