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coolguy_0925
post Nov 1 2020, 08:22 PM

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QUOTE(adele123 @ Nov 1 2020, 07:45 PM)
Original limit yes. But did you keep all the letters prudential sent to you? After few times of repricing, sometimes they increase your annual limit and lifetime limit compared to day 1 when you bought the policy. Give you some sweet, so you happy sikit.
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Yes the latest reprice I saw the pdf in portal lifetime limit was up from RM19xk to RM2xxk instead of what the blur agent mentioned
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post Nov 1 2020, 09:31 PM

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QUOTE(ckdenion @ Nov 1 2020, 08:42 PM)
maybe your agent mistaken as PRUhealth. your mum and yours is PRUMajor Med Plus?
hi adrianteo, premium is always not guarantee. reason being is although cost of life insurance is unlikely to increase, but the investment value will fluctuate. it might under perform compared to the projection table. also depends on how much you are paying currently. some might pay a lot even just for life insurance.
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PMM3, Mom has additional PMM Plus and PMM Enhancer

QUOTE(lifebalance @ Nov 1 2020, 08:45 PM)
go check your portal to confirm the benefits.
Premium payable & account value is not guaranteed and subject to repricing at any point of time.
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Portal doesn't have annual / lifetime limit info

Benefit Description Benefit Purchased
PRULink Assurance Plan MYR 40,000.00
Accident Medical Reimbursement MYR 2,000.00
Accidental Death & Disablement MYR 50,000.00
Crisis Shield MYR 20,000.00
PRUMajor Med 3 MYR 100.00 (Room & Board)
PRUMajor Med 3 Enhancer Yes
PRUMajor Med Plus Yes
Weekly Indemnity 4 unit(s)
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post Nov 2 2020, 04:23 PM

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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Nov 2 2020, 09:50 AM)
Call in to Prudential to check on it.

Otherwise refer to the policy book for the plan benefit.
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Ya referred to latest claim letter the balance was at the bottom but like I said not as claimed by agent rclxub.gif

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post Nov 4 2020, 05:24 PM

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QUOTE(CT2009 @ Nov 4 2020, 05:20 PM)
hi may i ask, do you receive notice for increase in premium? mine was asked to increase from rm250++ to RM310 per month, abt RM50; and my plan is not as high as you. when i asked for reason, it was saying due to cost of medical increase and blah....i was really pissed off with their standard answer, and this is not first time. i been paying for almost 20 years, this is the steep increase...
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They sent a letter and it is always the same reason, increasing medical cost
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post Nov 4 2020, 09:21 PM

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QUOTE(CT2009 @ Nov 4 2020, 05:37 PM)
really useless reason, and increase so much this time, my starting premium was about RM240, then....increase bit and bit, last was 2017, RM253 to now RM259. i am asking for details and how do they justify such increase. if not worth for such, i better add-on with others, as Prudential just pushing the responsibility to let it handle by the agent.
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Understand how you feel and the other company has the option to choose but this sounds like a forced increase

Do you mind telling how old are you because RM50 x 12 = RM600 for me is a lot

And how much roughly is the balance in your investment fund?
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post Nov 5 2020, 12:12 PM

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QUOTE(CT2009 @ Nov 5 2020, 10:47 AM)
thanks for your explanation, i do aware such factors, especially those factors are uncontrollable by us as contributors. Prudential own the social responsibilities too but when i asked for slight detailed info, instead of general statement ...prudential just keep quiet...
i need the data to analyse further..
i am 45 this year.....
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No prob, as I am also bothered by the ever increasing premium

If you have time, you may want to ask agent from another company to quote you the similar benefits and if it is more worthwhile then you have an option to switch

If Prudential come another round in 2 years time, I will ask agent from GE for a quote and will seriously consider switching to GE

At least GE never force premium increase like Prudential
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QUOTE(ckdenion @ Nov 5 2020, 02:03 PM)
hi mrcloud9, indeed Prudential removed their Hospital Allowance rider in the new ILP plans. for other companies, you can actually still add this rider into their plan.
do you mean RM200 R&B?
you can actually look at Manulife Signature medical card plan. They cover any single room and up to double of their single room ward rate. smile.gif of course that is the highest range in their medical card rider plan.
hi coolguy, regarding on whether insurance companies forcing policy holder to increase premium, this case is not guarantee like that. if not mistaken from next year onwards, premium increase has become compulsory and if wanna maintain premium, then policy holder is forced to lower their coverage benefits. let's wait for this news to be confirmed again. only if premium and coverage makes sense and other reasons, if you insist to switch to other companies, it's still ok to do so. wink.gif
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Well let's wait and see but I just could not justify the need to raise my premium and maintaining plenty of cash value inside investment fund

More like they are finding way to maximise their profit
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post Dec 30 2020, 06:05 PM

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Hello, just had a thought over the following topics and wanna see if you guys can help to clarify

1. Say this person has an ILP which the life assurance that pays RM200k and the current fund value is RM20k. Say touch wood this person died, so the nominee will get RM200k + RM20k? Fund value will not burnt I suppose?

2. Is premiium holiday applicable to all ILPs? And does customer have to apply for it or can just skip paying premium assuming the fund value is adequate for few years of premium. Can the insurance provider reject this and force us to continue paying premium? Because during MCO it was required to apply to defer premium payment due to COVID-19 and only those can prove that they got affected will be approved. Just worry if I skip like 2 months of premium then will have problem or rejection for claiming etc. next time

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post Dec 31 2020, 10:39 PM

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QUOTE(adele123 @ Dec 30 2020, 07:58 PM)
The covid situation was abit different. The premium deferment was quite special la.

But for normal circumstances, premium holiday is a feature of IL plans la. So you can just skip. This is usually the case la.

But i do know of 2 companies with funny premium holiday rule. Where you really cant, during the earlier years.
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QUOTE(ckdenion @ Dec 30 2020, 10:34 PM)
premium holiday is applicable to ilp plans. You can apply for it or policy status will automatically turn to “premium holiday” status after x months of no premium payment. Insurers can force you to pay any due premium when you wanna make alteration to the policy benefits say add/remove riders. For premium deferement due to COVID is kinda like special case unlike premium holiday. Have to check with the TnC from your insurer. Just the 2 months due wont cause any claim problem unless your policy is new say within 1 year perhaps.
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It is Prudential and their customer service just replied my e-mail saying application for premium holiday is not available anymore dry.gif
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post Jan 2 2021, 07:43 PM

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QUOTE(ckdenion @ Jan 2 2021, 07:20 PM)
in that case, if it is necessary then just stop premium payment will do (note: not encouraging you to do premium holiday ya biggrin.gif ).
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Thanks for your input

The max I will skip will only be 1 or 2 months in order to utilise the cash value because it is too high now instead of me keep forking out cash from my end in this kind of effected economy

Just don't want them to later come out with all sorts of funny things like charge me interest (like putting the policy into Auto Premium Loan / APL) or denying the claims if required

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