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TSpucman
post Jul 20 2007, 06:14 PM, updated 19y ago

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Anybody using this livewell brand for glucosamine sulphate ? It is cheap but is it effective ?


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post Jul 20 2007, 09:07 PM

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I took GNC's Glucosamine 750MG with Chrondotine 650MG and it works wonder. Currently taking Kordels Glucosamine 550MG to maintain.
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post Jul 20 2007, 09:11 PM

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QUOTE(phoenix @ Jul 20 2007, 09:07 PM)
I took GNC's Glucosamine 750MG with Chrondotine 650MG and it works wonder. Currently taking Kordels Glucosamine 550MG to maintain.
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Is GNC the same as livewell brand ?

How long before you can see the improvement in GNC for your athritis ?

Why did u switch to kordel if GNC is effective ?

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post Jul 20 2007, 09:13 PM

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Errr... Does this livewell have a website. GNC's motto is Live Well so I'm not sure whether is it the same thing you are referring to?

I seen improvements in around 2 months. And I switched to Kordel cause GNC too expensive. GNC has Chrondotine in it which futher helps repair. If no repair is needed, just take Glucosamine Sulphate.
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post Jul 20 2007, 10:21 PM

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QUOTE(phoenix @ Jul 20 2007, 09:13 PM)
Errr... Does this livewell have a website. GNC's motto is Live Well so I'm not sure whether is it the same thing you are referring to?

I seen improvements in around 2 months. And I switched to Kordel cause GNC too expensive. GNC has Chrondotine in it which futher helps repair. If no repair is needed, just take Glucosamine Sulphate.
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when u say 'improvements', you mean you can run now ? Now I can only walk but not run. Tell me what was the improvements... ie. before taking and after taking.

I think Live well is just a brand of GNC.

Thanks for the info. I was afraid of being cheated. mad.gif

Too many fake products around.



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post Jul 21 2007, 12:26 AM

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Well... I am a runner. You can see how active I am in the marathoner's thread here. I used to have Runner's Knee, meaning thining of the knee cartilage wall. I stop running due to that and has been researching on how can I cope with it. This is where I learnt of Glucosamine so I drop by at GNC and went through their catalogue. And from there I chose this product. After thaking for 2 months, I felt so much better than I can start to jog. And after 3 months, of taking it, I ran the KL International Marathon 42KM without any problems. So to me, Glucosamine saved my knee.
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QUOTE(phoenix @ Jul 21 2007, 12:26 AM)
Well... I am a runner. You can see how active I am in the marathoner's thread here. I used to have Runner's Knee, meaning thining of the knee cartilage wall. I stop running due to that and has been researching on how can I cope with it. This is where I learnt of Glucosamine so I drop by at GNC and went through their catalogue. And from there I chose this product. After thaking for 2 months, I felt so much better than I can start to jog. And after 3 months, of taking it, I ran the KL International Marathon 42KM without any problems. So to me, Glucosamine saved my knee.
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Thank you very much for the info. notworthy.gif

Hopefully I will be able to run again after taking this. I have a bit of knee pain too.

It is not really expensive if you know where to buy. I saw one shop that sells 2 boxes (250mg per tablet) of glusosamine and one box of condrotine together as one packet selling for around 60++.

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gnc and live well products i think is different

live well is more famous for their Q-gels
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QUOTE(phoenix @ Jul 20 2007, 09:07 PM)
I took GNC's Glucosamine 750MG with Chrondotine 650MG and it works wonder. Currently taking Kordels Glucosamine 550MG to maintain.
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walau eh so high dosage? i'm taking arthril 250mg glucosamine sulphate only leh rclxub.gif with Consulf chondroitin sulphate 400mg. but i seldom take chondroitin la. got these from pantai medical center.

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QUOTE(pucman @ Jul 21 2007, 12:50 AM)
Thank you very much for the info.  notworthy.gif

Hopefully I will be able to run again after taking this. I have a bit of knee pain too.

It is not really expensive if you know where to buy. I saw one shop that sells 2 boxes (250mg per tablet) of glusosamine and one box of condrotine together as one packet selling for around 60++.
The contents says it all. Only 250MG. Look at the dosage per tablet I'm taking.

QUOTE(jones007 @ Jul 21 2007, 02:30 AM)
walau eh so high dosage? i'm taking arthril 250mg glucosamine sulphate only leh rclxub.gif with Consulf chondroitin sulphate 400mg. but i seldom take chondroitin la. got these from pantai medical center.
Our body can take up to 1500MG of Glucosamine a day. As for Chrondroitin, it's very strong and people tend to take if got serious problem. Not easy to find also.

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post Jul 22 2007, 11:05 PM

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phoenix, are you sure u got the right term?

glucosamine sulphate - helps to produce the "lubricant" tongue.gif

chondroitin sulphate - helps maintaining the "lubricant" as in slowing down the process of catrilage breakdown.

hope u can do more research before consuming it. hehehh tongue.gif


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post Jul 23 2007, 06:10 PM

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QUOTE(phunkydude @ Jul 22 2007, 11:05 PM)
phoenix, are you sure u got the right term?

glucosamine sulphate - helps to produce the "lubricant" tongue.gif

chondroitin sulphate - helps maintaining the "lubricant" as in slowing down the process of catrilage breakdown.

hope u can do more research before consuming it. hehehh tongue.gif
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i'm confused myself woh. must take both or take one type ?

anyway, I bought glucosamine and chondroitin today. Livewell brand, the pharmacist said it is local brand and not the same as GNC livewell.

I think that local company want to confuse people and buy their product. anyway, hopefully it will be effective for me. If not vmad.gif mad.gif
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QUOTE(phunkydude @ Jul 22 2007, 11:05 PM)
phoenix, are you sure u got the right term?

glucosamine sulphate - helps to produce the "lubricant" tongue.gif

chondroitin sulphate - helps maintaining the "lubricant" as in slowing down the process of catrilage breakdown.

hope u can do more research before consuming it. hehehh tongue.gif
I am using layman terms here. If I start using scientific terms, I don't think many will understand. By the way, I have done my research long time ago. The "lubricant" is called synovial cavity or fluid and is produced in the synovial membrane which surrounds the articular cartilage. Do you know of this? Want me to elaborate more? Maybe you should start doing some studying too. smile.gif

QUOTE(pucman @ Jul 23 2007, 06:10 PM)
i'm confused myself woh. must take both or take one type ?

anyway, I bought glucosamine and chondroitin today. Livewell brand, the pharmacist said it is local brand and not the same as GNC livewell.

I think that local company want to confuse people and buy their product. anyway, hopefully it will be effective for me. If not  vmad.gif  mad.gif
Yah. I saw the ad in the papers yesterday. Manufactured locally by some company call Pahang Pharmaceutical.

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post Jul 23 2007, 11:24 PM

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QUOTE(phoenix @ Jul 23 2007, 08:50 PM)
By the way, I have done my research long time ago. . I saw the ad in the papers yesterday. Manufactured locally by some company call Pahang Pharmaceutical.
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how much u buy from kordel per tablet ?

I just looked at live-well brand. they asked me to take one tablet 500 mg twice a day. ie. one day 1000 mg or 1 g. Do you think it is enough ?

furthermore, the chrondroitin sulphate 250 mg , chicken collage type 2 200 mg in one tablet also twice a day.

So I paid 60 tablets of 500 mg glucosamine with free 60 tablets of chrodroitin 250 mg for just RM 63.

Do you think it is cheap or not ?



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QUOTE(phoenix @ Jul 23 2007, 08:50 PM)
I am using layman terms here. If I start using scientific terms, I don't think many will understand. By the way, I have done my research long time ago. The "lubricant" is called synovial cavity or fluid and is produced in the synovial membrane which surrounds the articular cartilage. Do you know of this? Want me to elaborate more? Maybe you should start doing some studying too.  smile.gif

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anyway, it's a fact that chondroitin sulphate is to maintain as in slowing down the catrilage breakdown..
but NOT repairing or u so-called for more SERIOUS condition.


Added on July 24, 2007, 12:54 am
QUOTE(pucman @ Jul 23 2007, 06:10 PM)
i'm confused myself woh. must take both or take one type ?

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consult doctor for more professional advice, i'd say.

some ppl just go for glucosamine, coz for them it's effective.
this is because, glucosamine is for producing the "lubricant".
"not enough.. -> feel pain ... ->eat glucosamine ... -> feels ok"
so when u eat glucosamine as ur daily supplementary consuption... of course that.. u'll feel ok... and think glucosamine does the right thing.
but once u stop eating it.. , ur "lubricant" not maintain well... it wears out too fast..
so u stop eating it, ur joints pain will come back immediately... coz it cannot maintain well.. while all these while eating glucosamine that only "produce".

however, for those who prefer to eat it for lifetime non-stop... obviously they won't feel the pain back.
that's thier choice though..


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QUOTE(phunkydude @ Jul 24 2007, 12:42 AM)
anyway, it's a fact that chondroitin sulphate is to maintain as in slowing down the catrilage breakdown.. 
but NOT repairing or u so-called for more SERIOUS condition.


Added on July 24, 2007, 12:54 am

consult doctor for more professional advice, i'd say.

some ppl just go for glucosamine, coz for them it's effective.
this is because, glucosamine is for producing the "lubricant".
"not enough.. -> feel pain ...  ->eat glucosamine ... -> feels ok"
so when u eat glucosamine as ur daily supplementary consuption...  of course that..  u'll feel ok... and think glucosamine does the right thing.
but once u stop eating it.. , ur "lubricant" not maintain well... it wears out too fast..
so u stop eating it, ur joints pain will come back immediately... coz it cannot maintain well..  while all these while eating glucosamine that only "produce".

however,  for those who prefer to eat it for lifetime non-stop... obviously they won't feel the pain back.
that's thier choice though..
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I am taking Kordel's Glucosamine 550. It has higher strength and most of my pharmacist friend recommends it.

This is because some of the customers says that Live-well Glucosamine is not effective.

So far, Kordel's Glucosamine is pretty effective and I have been taking it for more than 6 months now. Most importantly, Kordel's Glucosamine 550 is sodium free. Sodium is bad and may cause high blood pressure and kidney stones.

Not sure about GNCs but it is really expensive. With the economic downturn... $$$ we have to find ways to save $$$$. rolleyes.gif

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Try to take glucosamine HCl instead of glucosamine sulfate.

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QUOTE(pucman @ Jul 20 2007, 09:11 PM)
Is GNC the same as livewell brand ?

How long before you can see the improvement in GNC for your athritis ?

Why did u switch to kordel if GNC is effective ?
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GNC is an American brand smile.gif.. they have their own special outlet, not sold in pharmacies
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QUOTE(slushie @ Feb 8 2009, 12:59 AM)
GNC is an American brand smile.gif.. they have their own special outlet, not sold in pharmacies
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Look out for 'Salt Free' Glucosamine.

You don't want to have High Blood Pressure or put on weight unneccsary. Extra salt cause water to be kept in the body.

So make sure it is Salt Free... Most Glucosamine that is 'Salt Free' will carry the word 'Sodium Free'.

My mum was taking Viatril-S and her blood pressure was really high. It was then a pharmacist in Guardian recommends that she take Kordel's Glucosamine 550 that is 'salt free' that she is able to control her blood pressure.

I am so pleased that her blood pressure is well controlled now.





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