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post Feb 27 2020, 10:39 AM, updated 5 months ago

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2020 Toyota Supra - 3.0L RM540,000.00
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The best sports-car of 2020, at reasonable price too.


2020 Toyota 86 - 2.0L RM300,000.00
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Infamous tofu delivery service. RWD & great handling capabilities. One of the best experience and fun sports car to drive today.

Honda is so far behind the game now.. All they have is a Civic Type R.. boring.



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ahh yes a toyota thread

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post Feb 27 2020, 10:40 AM

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post Feb 27 2020, 10:41 AM

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QUOTE(mushigen @ Feb 27 2020, 10:40 AM)
NSX itu apa?
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acura is a super car.. Not a sports car, daily driver.. different market segment.

It's not even part of honda badge or fleet la..


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QUOTE(Liamness @ Feb 27 2020, 10:39 AM)
2020 Toyota Supra - 3.0L RM540,000.00
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The best sports-car of 2020, at reasonable price too.
2020 Toyota 86 - 2.0L RM300,000.00
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Infamous tofu delivery service. RWD & great handling capabilities. One of the best experience and fun sports car to drive today.

Honda is so far behind the game now.. All they have is a Civic Type R.. boring.
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you forgot Honda NSX
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QUOTE(Liamness @ Feb 27 2020, 10:41 AM)
acura is a super car.. Not a sports car, daily driver.. different market segment.

It's not even part of honda badge or fleet la..
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it's part of honda badge la bro
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post Feb 27 2020, 10:45 AM

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post Feb 27 2020, 10:45 AM

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QUOTE(Liamness @ Feb 27 2020, 10:41 AM)
acura is a super car.. Not a sports car, daily driver.. different market segment.

It's not even part of honda badge or fleet la..
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Pretty sure it's called Honda NSX. The emblem in front looks exactly like the one on my Honda City.
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QUOTE(pot-8-O's @ Feb 27 2020, 10:40 AM)
ahh yes a toyota thread

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post Feb 27 2020, 10:46 AM

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post Feb 27 2020, 10:47 AM

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Honda got sell Civic Type R 2.0 turbo in malaysia right?

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post Feb 27 2020, 10:49 AM

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QUOTE(fantasy1989 @ Feb 27 2020, 10:43 AM)
you forgot Honda NSX
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QUOTE(mushigen @ Feb 27 2020, 10:45 AM)
Pretty sure it's called Honda NSX. The emblem in front looks exactly like the one on my Honda City.
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NSX is not a sports car la.. It's a super car with a super price tag.. Nobody is gonna buy an NSX la.. got so many better options.

What i'm referring to is your daily sports car..

Where is Hondas dedicated sports car model.. I.e. Integra, S2000, etc..

All they have at the price range of a Supra is the Honda Civic Type R.. BORING.
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QUOTE(Liamness @ Feb 27 2020, 10:49 AM)
NSX is not a sports car la.. It's a super car with a super price tag.. Nobody is gonna buy an NSX la.. got so many better options.

What i'm referring to is your daily sports car..

Where is Hondas dedicated sports car model.. I.e. Integra, S2000, etc..

All they have at the price range of a Supra is the Honda Civic Type R.. BORING.
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post Feb 27 2020, 10:53 AM

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well...technically it's a bmw
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QUOTE(lyc1982 @ Feb 27 2020, 10:53 AM)
well...technically it's a bmw
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QUOTE(lyc1982 @ Feb 27 2020, 10:53 AM)
well...technically it's a bmw
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post Feb 27 2020, 10:56 AM

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QUOTE(kevinlim001 @ Feb 27 2020, 10:45 AM)
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Haha.. Still good la, but old model liao.. since 2007. Nissan needs to bring back their Silvia..

QUOTE(terradrive @ Feb 27 2020, 10:47 AM)
Honda got sell Civic Type R 2.0 turbo in malaysia right?

seen few units liao
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Boring la Civic. Where's their dedicated sport car platform?

Toyota now sells two models of purpose built sports car.. Hence why I say they are the KING of Japanese sports cars. They dare to revive their sports car models. Meanwhile, other car brands like Honda playing it safe and boring by sticking with sedan B or C-class segment cars..
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the new supra is a joke la
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QUOTE(Burningsunz @ Feb 27 2020, 10:57 AM)
the new supra is a joke la
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QUOTE(Burningsunz @ Feb 27 2020, 10:57 AM)
the new supra is a joke la
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This car is going to win best sports car of 2020. What joke you referring to?

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QUOTE(lyc1982 @ Feb 27 2020, 10:53 AM)
well...technically it's a bmw
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post Feb 27 2020, 11:02 AM

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This a BMW Z4... lol
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QUOTE(Liamness @ Feb 27 2020, 11:56 AM)
Haha.. Still good la, but old model liao.. since 2007. Nissan needs to bring back their Silvia..
Boring la Civic. Where's their dedicated sport car platform?

Toyota now sells two models of purpose built sports car.. Hence why I say they are the KING of Japanese sports cars. They dare to revive their sports car models. Meanwhile, other car brands like Honda playing it safe and boring by sticking with sedan B or C-class segment cars..
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If you consider rebadging a BMW Z4 and a Subaru BRZ as purpose built, then yes. oops
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QUOTE(Liamness @ Feb 27 2020, 10:58 AM)
This car is going to win best sports car of 2020. What joke you referring to?
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Then congrats on BMW of having win the best sports car of 2020
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post Feb 27 2020, 11:07 AM

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QUOTE(cnks @ Feb 27 2020, 11:04 AM)
If you consider rebadging a BMW Z4 and a Subaru BRZ as purpose built, then yes. oops
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haha u all butthurt la.

I call this smart la. Toyota last time also using other people engine also.. the Supra 2jz & Celica 2ZZ engines were built by yamaha..

Toyota using other company parts to build their sports cars is nothing new la.
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QUOTE(Liamness @ Feb 27 2020, 10:56 AM)
Haha.. Still good la, but old model liao.. since 2007. Nissan needs to bring back their Silvia..
Boring la Civic. Where's their dedicated sport car platform?

Toyota now sells two models of purpose built sports car.. Hence why I say they are the KING of Japanese sports cars. They dare to revive their sports car models. Meanwhile, other car brands like Honda playing it safe and boring by sticking with sedan B or C-class segment cars..
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QUOTE(Liamness @ Feb 27 2020, 10:58 AM)
This car is going to win best sports car of 2020. What joke you referring to?
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all use BMW then rebrand into toyota. win best sports car of 2020?? cmonla every magazine will have their own awards ceremony and the awards is depending on how much money car manufacturer pays them.
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QUOTE(Liamness @ Feb 27 2020, 10:41 AM)
acura is a super car.. Not a sports car, daily driver.. different market segment.

It's not even part of honda badge or fleet la..
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Acura is a US logo Honda used to ensure the white man will buy a US car not Jap. Anyway NSX was ahead of its time, an Asian Ferrari...now honda is crap for ahbeng and the cinapek design.


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QUOTE(Liamness @ Feb 27 2020, 10:41 AM)
acura is a super car.. Not a sports car, daily driver.. different market segment.

It's not even part of honda badge or fleet la..
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thats like saying Infiniti is not part of Nissan, or Lexus not part of Toyota ... lel
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QUOTE(Liamness @ Feb 27 2020, 10:39 AM)
2020 Toyota Supra - 3.0L RM540,000.00
0-100km/h in 4.3s.
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The best sports-car of 2020, at reasonable price too.
2020 Toyota 86 - 2.0L RM300,000.00
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Infamous tofu delivery service. RWD & great handling capabilities. One of the best experience and fun sports car to drive today.

Honda is so far behind the game now.. All they have is a Civic Type R.. boring.
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civic ketam kan berlambak on highway
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Riggit so weak + high tax, paid half million for normal sport car (this is not supercar).
But who to blame, because majority want fuel subsidy..... Hahaha
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QUOTE(Liamness @ Feb 27 2020, 12:07 PM)
haha u all butthurt la.

I call this smart la. Toyota last time also using other people engine also.. the Supra 2jz & Celica 2ZZ engines were built by yamaha..

Toyota using other company parts to build their sports cars is nothing new la.
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If using just parts from other company to build a car, no problem. It happens all the time. But if it is completely the same as another car (Supra vs Z4), the difference is just the look, then it is called rebadged.
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The Supra is not even a Toyota to begin with...

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QUOTE(Liamness @ Feb 27 2020, 10:39 AM)
2020 Toyota Supra - 3.0L RM540,000.00
0-100km/h in 4.3s.
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The best sports-car of 2020, at reasonable price too.
2020 Toyota 86 - 2.0L RM300,000.00
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Infamous tofu delivery service. RWD & great handling capabilities. One of the best experience and fun sports car to drive today.

Honda is so far behind the game now.. All they have is a Civic Type R.. boring.
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Civic type r is not in the same ball park.
i bet lexus lfa nicer to drive though.
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QUOTE(Liamness @ Feb 27 2020, 10:39 AM)
2020 Toyota Supra - 3.0L RM540,000.00
0-100km/h in 4.3s.
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The best sports-car of 2020, at reasonable price too.
2020 Toyota 86 - 2.0L RM300,000.00
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Infamous tofu delivery service. RWD & great handling capabilities. One of the best experience and fun sports car to drive today.

Honda is so far behind the game now.. All they have is a Civic Type R.. boring.
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Correction, should be impreza brz ang BMW z4 la. Toyota more or less just put a badge there
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do you know that the Supra is basically a rebadged BMW Z4 - even Toyota acknowledges the fact that developing and manufacturing from ground zero a purely Toyota "Supra" is a waste of resources.

so, don't give credit where it is not due.
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86 ada jual lagi ke. Its not even in toyota's website anymore

I think they replace 86 with supra for local market
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QUOTE(shaniandras2787 @ Feb 27 2020, 01:11 PM)
do you know that the Supra is basically a rebadged BMW Z4 - even Toyota acknowledges the fact that developing and manufacturing from ground zero a purely Toyota "Supra" is a waste of resources.

so, don't give credit where it is not due.
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whatever.. still doesn't change the fact that Toyota are back in the mainstream sports car segment, while other Japanese car manufacturer all do not participate in this segment. Preferring to offer stale and boring cars like crossovers, & sedans or NSX supercars that costs 1.2mil RM 2nd hand and nobody will buy...

If I'm going for a drive, give me a two door sports car anyday.. With Supra & 86, Toyota are the undisputed kings. Period.

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>supra mayro
ya really that's more of a bmw than a toyota, the engine is bmw, the fucking tranny, even the chassis

>gt86
le fucking lemao, the mx5 is better in every way, even the na miata is better than the ae85/86

kamon la, both cars suck, just suka2 incite old legend names and reuse it to invoke nostalgia among car enthusiasts
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QUOTE(Liamness @ Feb 27 2020, 10:39 AM)
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Fake king of sports cars? (if we talking about the current ones they selling)

Supra = BMW Z4
86 = Subaru BRZ

Toyota is the king of MPV laugh.gif

here are some of the fun Honda's besides the Civic Type R








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QUOTE(GibeDeMuny @ Feb 27 2020, 01:27 PM)
>supra mayro
ya really that's more of a bmw than a toyota, the engine is bmw, the fucking tranny, even the chassis

>gt86
le fucking lemao, the mx5 is better in every way, even the na miata is better than the ae85/86

kamon la, both cars suck, just suka2 incite old legend names and reuse it to invoke nostalgia among car enthusiasts
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sure, Supra uses bmw, but you forget.. Toyota have racing pedigree and the Supra is the only sports car in their fleet.. Supra will eventually get the TRD experience..

Meanwhile Z4 will just be a Z4..

People already say the Supra feels better and faster. So go with the Supra.
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Is that even Malaysian car price or u just convert it as it is..?
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It's actually a BMW Supra and Subaru 86
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Its a BMW Z4 Coupe say its a BMW Z4 la!! Are rebadged Toyotas a thing now?

Toyota say too expensive to make fast car. BAM!!! Yaris GRMN. BAM!! "We are 24 hour Le Mans champion!!"

All those shit does not make their Corolla more reliable (2019).

Can make Supra from Lexus platform. Tak Mau. But Camry = Lexus ES. Memang Chibai.
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QUOTE(GibeDeMuny @ Feb 27 2020, 01:27 PM)
>supra mayro
ya really that's more of a bmw than a toyota, the engine is bmw, the fucking tranny, even the chassis

>gt86
le fucking lemao, the mx5 is better in every way, even the na miata is better than the ae85/86

kamon la, both cars suck, just suka2 incite old legend names and reuse it to invoke nostalgia among car enthusiasts
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imho 86 and BRZ is in no man's land
as a 2.0 na it's like a lame duck as subaru is femes for turbo's and awd, this car has neither
decent chassis and handling but not enough power
there is a turbo version but feels bolt on as all the handling and chassis refinement is gone
mx5 does it better as a nimble little fun car
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NSX costs 1.2mil RM 2nd hand bro..

nobody going to buy NSX at that price point. Not worth it when there are many other better super cars that costs less.

Moduro all that belongs in hairdresser segment. lol.. nobody will mod such a small engine car..
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QUOTE(zenix @ Feb 27 2020, 01:36 PM)
imho 86 and BRZ is in no man's land
as a 2.0 na it's like a lame duck as subaru is femes for turbo's and awd, this car has neither
decent chassis and handling but not enough power
there is a turbo version but feels bolt on as all the handling and chassis refinement is gone
mx5 does it better as a nimble little fun car
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gt86/brz wasn't made for speed la.. and brz is rwd.. The car is more about the handling and driver experience..

IMO, The 86 is a fun car too when you throw it around the corner and control the drift..

Mx5 is nice but it can't do that better than the 86 can..
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QUOTE(cofin @ Feb 27 2020, 01:40 PM)
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dying brand.. will be one of the first to go once electric cars take over. Sadly..

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if TS say NSX is not honda
we can also say the supra is actually a Z4 and the 86 is actually a subaru
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QUOTE(Liamness @ Feb 27 2020, 01:32 PM)
sure, Supra uses bmw, but you forget.. Toyota have racing pedigree and the Supra is the only sports car in their fleet.. Supra will eventually get the TRD experience..

Meanwhile Z4 will just be a Z4..

People already say the Supra feels better and faster. So go with the Supra.
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You know TRD is already dead right? Now its Gazoo Racing. TRD does not make tuning parts anymore more than 10 years ago.

If anyone who owns a BMW in Europe, they will know Manthey Racing is the best and most winningest race tuners there. People will line up a long waiting list to get their cars prepped there. I'm still waiting for Japan to list out the vast tuning parts for it like the GT86.... which is almost non existent. Comparatively GT86 has chassis tuning parts 1 month after it was launched. Nearly a year there are super charger kits for it. As of now the Zupr4 is just Youtube material. And whats worse i saw videos of the Zupr4 GT class cars having 2 different engine sounds at different tracks. 1 is V8 and the other is IL6. Explains a lot about racing confidence there huh? I don't buy into the hype of this car just like i did for the GT86. All the fakery nonsense.
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Feb 27 2020, 01:45 PM)
if TS say NSX is not honda
we can also say the supra is actually a Z4 and the 86 is actually a subaru
well, it is technically laugh.gif
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NSX is sold under Acura badge in european/usa market. That's like saying Lexus got super car.. which they do..


That's what I meant.. it's technically not a Honda.
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QUOTE(Liamness @ Feb 27 2020, 01:32 PM)
sure, Supra uses bmw, but you forget.. Toyota have racing pedigree and the Supra is the only sports car in their fleet.. Supra will eventually get the TRD experience..

Meanwhile Z4 will just be a Z4..

People already say the Supra feels better and faster. So go with the Supra.
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Z4 does have a M variant.



i like this quote "it's as quick as you like it to be" that mean's it's slow with extra words laugh.gif
but seriously the S54 engine is no slouch coz it's an M powered car engine
while the supra only gets the B558 which is the regular z4 engine
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that's a bmw

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QUOTE(Liamness @ Feb 27 2020, 01:47 PM)
NSX is sold under Acura badge in european/usa market. That's like saying Lexus got super car.. which they do..
That's what I meant.. it's technically not a Honda.
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it's known world wide as Honda NSX
there is no Toyota LFA ever
plus u saying Honda no sports car
u didn't say got budget cap

technically u makan kasut
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QUOTE(Liamness @ Feb 27 2020, 01:43 PM)
gt86/brz wasn't made for speed la.. and brz is rwd.. The car is more about the handling and driver experience..

IMO, The 86 is a fun car too when you throw it around the corner and control the drift..

Mx5 is nice but it can't do that better than the 86 can..
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your statement is speaking from experience or from paper?

have you ever driven them?

btw.. the reason i didnt go to MX5 few months back was it does not designed for 186cm folks sweat.gif

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QUOTE(Liamness @ Feb 27 2020, 01:25 PM)
whatever.. still doesn't change the fact that Toyota are back in the mainstream sports car segment, while other Japanese car manufacturer all do not participate in this segment. Preferring to offer stale and boring cars like crossovers, & sedans or NSX supercars that costs 1.2mil RM 2nd hand and nobody will buy...

If I'm going for a drive, give me a two door sports car anyday.. With Supra & 86, Toyota are the undisputed kings. Period.
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laugh.gif they are not "back in the mainstream sports car segment", they were never "in" it here in Malaysia.

I give them credit for co-developing the 86 but not for the Supra because saying otherwise would be like saying Proton deserves massive credit for the new Perdana and also the X70's "design".

You obliviously chose to ignore the likes of Nissan and Subaru (just to name a few). Not bringing certain models into Malaysia doesn't mean they are lame, it just means you cannot afford it. If people are complaining that an Accord costs nearly RM200k then chances are they are more comfortable in the Persona segment.

You need to understand, good things aren't cheap and cheap things aren't good. Taking the NSX as an example (since you mentioned it), are you even aware of the amount of engineering works that goes into that thing? You wouldn't buy because they are not expecting people like you to buy - it's like asking Rolls Royce to make people like you their targeted customer.

Not just you, "IF" anyone who wants to go for a drive, would prefer a proper engineered sports car but the question you need to ask yourself before making that assumption, can you afford it.

Funny how it seems that you included the term "period" at the end of your sentence, as if you hold some sort of finite authority.




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QUOTE(netmatrix @ Feb 27 2020, 01:46 PM)
You know TRD is already dead right? Now its Gazoo Racing. TRD does not make tuning parts anymore more than 10 years ago.

If anyone who owns a BMW in Europe, they will know Manthey Racing is the best and most winningest race tuners there. People will line up a long waiting list to get their cars prepped there. I'm still waiting for Japan to list out the vast tuning parts for it like the GT86.... which is almost non existent. Comparatively GT86 has chassis tuning parts 1 month after it was launched. Nearly a year there are super charger kits for it. As of now the Zupr4 is just Youtube material. And whats worse i saw videos of the Zupr4 GT class cars having 2 different engine sounds at different tracks. 1 is V8 and the other is IL6. Explains a lot about racing confidence there huh? I don't buy into the hype of this car just like i did for the GT86. All the fakery nonsense.
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QUOTE(zenix @ Feb 27 2020, 01:48 PM)
it's known world wide as Honda NSX
there is no Toyota LFA ever
plus u saying Honda no sports car
u didn't say got budget cap

technically u makan kasut
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of-course got price point la..

what do you think i comparing Supra with what?? Honda Civic Type R right.. because that's the closest Honda sports car at that price point..

You bring in a super car for what?.. That's like I bring Gamora, you bring Thanos.. where la got fair..



also, those who say it is a bmw.. tell me why it is faster than it then? M badge or not, wait la.. Supra will also get their Motorsports variant to compare with it.
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QUOTE(Liamness @ Feb 27 2020, 02:08 PM)
of-course got price point la..

what do you think i comparing Supra with what?? Honda Civic Type R right.. because that's the closest Honda sports car at that price point..

You bring in a super car for what?.. That's like I bring Gamora, you bring Thanos..  where la got fair..



also, those who say it is a bmw.. tell me why it is faster than it then? M badge or not, wait la.. Supra will also get their Motorsports variant to compare with it.
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lighter and gear ratio different?
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QUOTE(edwedw @ Feb 27 2020, 01:59 PM)
NSX/Civic Type R/WRX STI/R35/BRZ/ : This guys serious? Are we a joke?
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NSX = unaffordable super car. Rare and not realistic to be King of the Japanese sports cars. That car can be the Unicorn, okay..

Civic Type R = still a Civic Sedan.. i.e.. it is not a dedicated variant like the S2000 or Integra.. Honda have not built their sports cars on dedicated platforms, so how can they claim to be KING. They are pussies more like it..

Toyota is Subaru owner anyways. So STi and BRZ is 17% belongs to Toyota. lol.

Nissan - Only one car.. Since 2006.. yawn..

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Toyota had some input on the new Supra, but it is a BMW through and through. The heart of the car, its engine is BMW. The ZF transmissions are commonly found on many Bimmers. If I am not mistaken, the chassis are made in Germany, and most of the design team/decisions were based in Germany
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ok, Mazda MX-5? Competes with Toyota 86
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QUOTE(cnks @ Feb 27 2020, 02:24 PM)
ok, Mazda MX-5? Competes with Toyota 86
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yes, it does. But Mazda only selling one sports car.. if they launch rx-9, then maybe can compete la..

Toyota now selling 2 in different segments. Hence, why they are currently the King.

Anyways, Toyota is showing the Japanese makers that they need to bring back sports cars, instead of focusing on crossover suv, sedans.. boring.
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meh, my Axia 1.0 0 downpayment 9 years loan with 4.5% interest from Agrobank can tapao Supra and 86
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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Feb 27 2020, 02:22 PM)
Toyota had some input on the new Supra, but it is a BMW through and through. The heart of the car, its engine is BMW. The ZF transmissions are commonly found on many Bimmers. If I am not mistaken, the chassis are made in Germany, and most of the design team/decisions were based in Germany
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The Supra was always built for North America/European users la.. even the 4th gen type.

Don't know why people pointing out this as something to shoot Toyota.. Bottom line is, they have the balls to develop sports cars whilst others, like Honda still fiddling around with BORING SUV and compact crossovers..

I dare Honda to bring back the S2000 and Integra la.. Why so pussy?.. People need to remember what cars meant..

Not boring looking Tesla self-driving aluminium boxes.. Puke.. Yucks..

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QUOTE(Liamness @ Feb 27 2020, 02:36 PM)
The Supra was always built for North America/European users la.. even the 4th gen type.

Don't know why people pointing out this as something to shoot Toyota.. Bottom line is, they have the balls to develop sports cars whilst others, like Honda still fiddling around with BORING SUV and compact crossovers..

I dare Honda to bring back the S2000 and Integra la.. Why so pussy?..
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business decisions. You are not running Honda so you don't know la laugh.gif
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QUOTE(zenix @ Feb 27 2020, 01:36 PM)
imho 86 and BRZ is in no man's land
as a 2.0 na it's like a lame duck as subaru is femes for turbo's and awd, this car has neither
decent chassis and handling but not enough power
there is a turbo version but feels bolt on as all the handling and chassis refinement is gone
mx5 does it better as a nimble little fun car
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MX5 is like a poor man's Porsche Cayman / Boxster.
That's saying alot, considering Cayman / Boxster is the best handling Porsche bikos of its MR layout.
Both cars are much, much tamer version of say, a Lotus and you don't get any better than a Lotus.

The way the MX5's body rolls and transfers load across the chassis in a turn, getting into and staying in the power band, great handling and making just enough power makes it the best car to learn the fundamentals of driving fast, deswai it's a bestseller and still being used todei in driving institutions across the world, by the hundreds and thousands, to teach aspiring new race car drivers. There's even the Global MX5 Cup.

The new Supra and GT86 are nothing dood, it's a just a cocktease to car enthusiasts cuz "muh legendary names".
Totoyo should've called them something else rather than tainting the old names.
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QUOTE(GibeDeMuny @ Feb 27 2020, 02:42 PM)
MX5 is like a poor man's Porsche Cayman / Boxster.
That's saying alot, considering Cayman / Boxster is the best handling Porsche bikos of its MR layout.
Both cars are much, much tamer version of say, a Lotus and you don't get any better than a Lotus.

The way the MX5's body rolls and transfers load across the chassis in a turn, getting into and staying in the power band, great handling and making just enough power makes it the best car to learn the fundamentals of driving fast, deswai it's a bestseller and still being used todei in driving institutions across the world, by the hundreds and thousands, to teach aspiring new race car drivers. There's even the Global MX5 Cup.

The new Supra and GT86 are nothing dood, it's a just a cocktease to car enthusiasts cuz "muh legendary names".
Totoyo should've called them something else rather than tainting the old names.
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btw what is a comparable Lotus car to a Cayman? Cayman is like RM500k in Malaysia now, if considering that, can consider a Lotus too? Which model?
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So nissan dead already?
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QUOTE(Liamness @ Feb 27 2020, 02:08 PM)
of-course got price point la..

what do you think i comparing Supra with what?? Honda Civic Type R right.. because that's the closest Honda sports car at that price point..

You bring in a super car for what?.. That's like I bring Gamora, you bring Thanos..  where la got fair..



also, those who say it is a bmw.. tell me why it is faster than it then? M badge or not, wait la.. Supra will also get their Motorsports variant to compare with it.
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but u ignore i say got z4 m with better engine
u ignore ppl talk about s660
u keep talking nsx not affordable sports car
then say u talking affordable sports car
but ur thread topic say "king of japanese sports car" not "king of japanese sports car but got budget and is ok if its rebadge from other car maker"

u like i talking to Gamora but all u say is "i am groot" whistling.gif
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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Feb 27 2020, 02:39 PM)
business decisions. You are not running Honda so you don't know la laugh.gif
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It's a known fact that sports cars don't make money. They lose money infact.

Sports car is the only segment of car that actually was built for the end-user.. it is a parting gift from the car company. I lose money, but you gain in enjoyment and fun.

Toyota are now selling 2 sports cars in their fleet. They truly are gifting back to their customers.

Meanwhile, Honda are truly stingy.. They give you a single, non-dedicated platform sports car.. the Honda Civic Type R.


Toyota is the King.. Period.

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I used to think all amois dig sports cars, until my wife said it’s low, leceh to move in/out, not comfy (snug seat for safety), and abrupt acceleration movements during acceleration/brakes is driving her crazy. sweat.gif

Sports cars are overrated.
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QUOTE(Liamness @ Feb 27 2020, 02:45 PM)
It's a known fact that sports cars don't make money. They lose money infact.

Sports car is the only segment of car that actually was built for the end-user.. it is a gift from the car company.  I lose money, but you gain in enjoyment and fun.

Toyota now selling 2 sports cars in their fleet. They truly are gifting back to their customers.

Meanwhile, Honda are truly stingy..  They give you a single, non-dedicated platform sports car.. the Honda Civic Type R.
Toyota is the King.. Period.
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yes yes. but they are beholden to their shareholders and not to people like you. You can complaint but like they care. As it is, if you want to buy a sports car there are plenty of options from other manufacturers, like the Z4
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so
toyota have sport car but not super car
honda have super car but not sport car (since u say CivicR not same level)

so stop compare and asking shit

u want the true jap king..get a godzilla

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Totoyo LFA is a joke, it costed a bomb to make, it costs a bomb to buy, it wasn't that fast back then, it's laughably slow by todei's standard.

It looked like something an Ah Beng would slap bodykits into his GT86.

You wanna praise the one and only great thing it had? The sound? Give the credits to Yamaha for tuning the acoustics lemao.
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QUOTE(Liamness @ Feb 27 2020, 02:36 PM)
The Supra was always built for North America/European users la.. even the 4th gen type.

Don't know why people pointing out this as something to shoot Toyota.. Bottom line is, they have the balls to develop sports cars whilst others, like Honda still fiddling around with BORING SUV and compact crossovers..

I dare Honda to bring back the S2000 and Integra la.. Why so pussy?.. People need to remember what cars meant..

Not boring looking Tesla self-driving aluminium boxes.. Puke.. Yucks..
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No car manufacturer is going to spend resources to revive a car category from scratch that doesn't sell

Meanwhile Honda cars such as the CRV, Civic and even Accord are doing well in the US market, and in the japanese market they are selling kei cars like the N-Box

Investing money to build a sports car from the ground up has not been very successful, look at the Lexus LFA and the new NSX, overpriced and underwhelming
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QUOTE(edwedw @ Feb 27 2020, 01:59 PM)
NSX/Civic Type R/WRX STI/R35/BRZ/ : This guys serious? Are we a joke?
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QUOTE(J1g54w @ Feb 27 2020, 02:47 PM)
I used to think all amois dig sports cars, until my wife said it’s low, leceh to move in/out, not comfy (snug seat for safety), and abrupt acceleration movements during acceleration/brakes is driving her crazy. sweat.gif

Sports cars are overrated.
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That's where you make mistake. Sports car is for you, not your wife. Because your wife no like suddenly sports car become overrated is it?
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QUOTE(Liamness @ Feb 27 2020, 02:45 PM)
Toyota are now selling 2 sports cars in their fleet. They truly are gifting back to their customers.
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yeah you're right toyota are selling 2 sports cars

Subaru BRZ and BMW Z4


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QUOTE(zenix @ Feb 27 2020, 02:45 PM)
but u ignore i say got z4 m with better engine
u ignore ppl talk about s660
u keep talking nsx not affordable sports car
then say u talking affordable sports car
but ur thread topic say "king of japanese sports car" not "king of japanese sports car but got budget and is ok if its rebadge from other car maker"

u like i talking to Gamora but all u say is "i am groot"  whistling.gif
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what qualities is a King?

The King is someone who is loved and popular with the people. Is accessible and humble.

A King is a leader and not afraid to take risks.

In this context, yes, Toyota is the King of Japanese sports cars.

They have made 2 very fun cars that is adored and loved by many. Both cars doesn't cost too much that it doesn't make sense.. Not like the NSX that cost prohibitively high and not massed produced aka inaccessible...

Toyota is a leader in making Jap sports cars. No other brand has more sports car platform than Toyota..

And they are taking huge financial risk, building two sports cars that may not sell enough to make back profit.

This is what I meant by King.
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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Feb 27 2020, 02:43 PM)
btw what is a comparable Lotus car to a Cayman? Cayman is like RM500k in Malaysia now, if considering that, can consider a Lotus too? Which model?
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It's not apple to apple, it's hard to compare, but everyone aspires to build a car that has the handling of the Elise - power/weight ratio, stiff chassis and precise steering, all the magic of a Lotus.

Lotus is bloody expensive, but it punches way, way beyond its weight class.

Look up onboard videos on track racing and see how even the Elise SC or Elise Sport 220 is keeping up with cars making 3x its power. That's just the Elise, belum kira Exige S V6 and beyond.

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QUOTE(GibeDeMuny @ Feb 27 2020, 03:06 PM)
It's not apple to apple, it's hard to compare, but everyone aspires to build a car that has the handling of the Elise - power/weight ratio, stiff chassis and precise steering, all the magic of a Lotus.

Lotus is bloody expensive, but it punches way, way beyond its weight class.

Look up onboard videos on track racing and see how even the Elise SC or Elise Sport 220 is keeping up with cars making 3x its power. That's just the Elise, belum kira Exige S V6 and beyond.
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Lotus Elise & Exige uses the Toyota 2zz super-charger engine.. rclxms.gif rclxms.gif

The Toyota MR-2 was also designed with Mid-ship roundabout, similar to these Lotus pocket-rockets..

Toyota is the King la.. You all just don't want to admit the truth.

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QUOTE(Liamness @ Feb 27 2020, 03:08 PM)
Lotus Elise & Exige uses the Toyota 2zz super-charger engine..  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif

Toyota is the King la.. You all just don't want to admit the truth.
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yes. one a bmw, the other a subaru.
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QUOTE(Liamness @ Feb 27 2020, 03:01 PM)
what qualities is a King?

The King is someone who is loved and popular with the people. Is accessible and humble.

A King is a leader and not afraid to take risks.

In this context, yes, Toyota is the King of Japanese sports cars.

They have made 2 very fun cars that is adored and loved by many. Both cars doesn't cost too much that it doesn't make sense.. Not like the NSX that cost prohibitively high and not massed produced aka inaccessible...

Toyota is a leader in making Jap sports cars. No other brand has more sports car platform than Toyota..

And they are taking huge financial risk, building two sports cars that may not sell enough to make back profit.

This is what I meant by King.
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honda has nsx, typeR and s660
subaru has wrx, sti, brz
nissan has gtr and fairlady

all above in-house design

toyota has z4 and brz

but toyota is king rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif

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QUOTE(Liamness @ Feb 27 2020, 04:08 PM)
Lotus Elise & Exige uses the Toyota 2zz super-charger engine..  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif

Toyota is the King la.. You all just don't want to admit the truth.
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QUOTE(Liamness @ Feb 27 2020, 03:08 PM)
Lotus Elise & Exige uses the Toyota 2zz super-charger engine..  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif

Toyota is the King la.. You all just don't want to admit the truth.
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lotus not using own engine so not consider own car?

u say liddat then brz not using toyota engine wor, supra not using toyota engine wor.....

so toyota z4 and brz how?

by the way LFA is using a yamaha engine
toyota ain't great for making high performance engine
the last celica oso uses yamaha engine

yamaha lfa and yamaha celica ke?


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WTF.. You guys keep shooting the Supra as BMW for what??

Hypocrite much????
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QUOTE(Liamness @ Feb 27 2020, 03:08 PM)
Lotus Elise & Exige uses the Toyota 2zz super-charger engine..  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif

Toyota is the King la.. You all just don't want to admit the truth.
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then why not using Toyota engine in both sports cars?
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QUOTE(Liamness @ Feb 27 2020, 03:13 PM)
WTF.. You guys keep shooting the Supra as BMW for what??

Hypocrite much????
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you seem to have no problem shooting lotus for using toyota engine

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QUOTE(zenix @ Feb 27 2020, 03:13 PM)
lotus not using own engine so not consider own car?

u say liddat then brz not using toyota engine wor, supra not using toyota engine wor.....

so toyota z4 and brz how?
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I said Toyota are well known to let other company make parts of their cars..
So I never argued against the fact that Supra isn't 100% Toyota... but I'm pointing out all you guys hypocrisy.

You can say other car is chun chun, but Supra, not chun because using BMW engine. HAHAHA..

double standards...
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QUOTE(Liamness @ Feb 27 2020, 03:13 PM)
WTF.. You guys keep shooting the Supra as BMW for what??

Hypocrite much????
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1. You are using Toyota's engine being used in a lotus as saying Toyota is King. This is false because Toyota only had one part (engine supply) of the beautiful Elise

2. You are using Supra as another example that Toyota is King. This is false because Toyota had very little to do with the overall design of the car

You are cherry-picking your arguments because you are blinded. People like me are open to buying any cars as long as it suits my needs. I do not know why there would be a car brand fanboi.
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QUOTE(winter01942 @ Feb 27 2020, 03:13 PM)
then why not using Toyota engine in both sports cars?
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you seem to have no problem shooting lotus for using toyota engine
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walau.. I shout lotus for what?? I support them for using TOYOTA.

Even they know that Toyota are the KING. lmaoooo doh.gif doh.gif
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QUOTE(Liamness @ Feb 27 2020, 03:15 PM)
I said Toyota are well known to let other company make parts of their cars..
So I never argued against the fact that Supra isn't 100% Toyota... but I'm pointing out all you guys hypocrisy.

You can say other car is chun chun, but Supra, not chun because using BMW engine. HAHAHA..

double standards...
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how can toyota be sports car king when they use other ppl car + engine + gearbox

it's like u copy other ppl homework
then proclaim yourself king
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QUOTE(Liamness @ Feb 27 2020, 03:18 PM)
walau.. I shout lotus for what?? I support them for using TOYOTA.
Even they know that Toyota are the KING. lmaoooo  doh.gif  doh.gif
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lotus treat them like engine supplier only
but if wanna talk engine supplier honda is a much bigger player in this field
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QUOTE(Liamness @ Feb 27 2020, 03:15 PM)
I said Toyota are well known to let other company make parts of their cars..
So I never argued against the fact that Supra isn't 100% Toyota... but I'm pointing out all you guys hypocrisy.

You can say other car is chun chun, but Supra, not chun because using BMW engine. HAHAHA..

double standards...
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You are wrong, we are saying that Supra is chun. But you cannot say Toyota is king based on the Supra, because it has very little to do with the design and production of the car. Your arguments are backwards, it is difficult to figure out if you are trolling or just being inarticulate
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QUOTE(Liamness @ Feb 27 2020, 03:13 PM)
WTF.. You guys keep shooting the Supra as BMW for what??

Hypocrite much????
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becoz it is the fact!

it also uses the lower spec engines than z4 and z4 m


customer: i wan supra cabiolet
salesman: u can goto bmw next door for the z4 cabriolet

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type R and NSX not meh?

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u all tokok sports car, got buy or not?
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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Feb 27 2020, 03:17 PM)
1. You are using Toyota's engine being used in a lotus as saying Toyota is King. This is false because Toyota only had one part (engine supply) of the beautiful Elise

2. You are using Supra as another example that Toyota is King. This is false because Toyota had very little to do with the overall design of the car

You are cherry-picking your arguments because you are blinded. People like me are open to buying any cars as long as it suits my needs. I do not know why there would be a car brand fanboi.
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1. Wrong. The transmission is also Toyotas design, & made by Toyota supplier in Japan. The engine is the heart and the transmission is the brains of a car. So no.. it had significant input in how the Lotus designed their cars.. Just like how BMW had significant input in Supra, a fact I have never denied..

2. Toyota is the King because they have 2 dedicated sports cars. Other Japanese maker all don't even have. Maybe they will change now that Toyota has taken the mantle as the King of making jap sports cars. Nobody can deny that as FACT.

Fanboism exists. Deal with it.
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QUOTE(Bull Poli @ Feb 27 2020, 02:53 PM)
That's where you make mistake. Sports car is for you, not your wife. Because your wife no like suddenly sports car become overrated is it?
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but all those points stated are true though

I heard Merc GT 63 is sports car performance with comfy sedan interior lah, but ayam not richfag so cannot afford
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QUOTE(Liamness @ Feb 27 2020, 03:23 PM)
1. Wrong. The transmission is also Toyotas design, & made by Toyota supplier in Japan. The engine is the heart and the transmission is the brains of a car. So no.. it had significant input in how the Lotus designed their cars.. Just like how BMW had significant input in Supra, a fact I have never denied..

2.  Toyota is the King because they have 2 dedicated sports cars. Other Japanese maker all don't even have. Maybe they will change now that Toyota has taken the mantle as the King of making jap sports cars. Nobody can deny that as FACT.

Fanboism exists. Deal with it.
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Please enlighten us on why Type R and GTR is not a dedicated sports car
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QUOTE(Liamness @ Feb 27 2020, 10:41 AM)
acura is a super car.. Not a sports car, daily driver.. different market segment.

It's not even part of honda badge or fleet la..
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kaninia u dunno u don talk kok can ma?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_NSX_(second_generation)


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QUOTE(winter01942 @ Feb 27 2020, 03:27 PM)
Please enlighten us on why Type R and GTR is not a dedicated sports car
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Honda Civic type R is based off the Civic platform. Unlike the Supra and Ft86, which uses its own dedicated platform.

Gtr , sure. But its old and nissan is dying.
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QUOTE(Liamness @ Feb 27 2020, 03:33 PM)
Honda Civic type R is based off the Civic platform. Unlike the Supra and Ft86, which uses its own dedicated platform.

Gtr , sure. But its old and nissan is dying.
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supra - BMW's platform
ft86 - Modified Impreza platform

anyway, hail the king Toyota
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QUOTE(Liamness @ Feb 27 2020, 03:23 PM)
1. Wrong. The transmission is also Toyotas design, & made by Toyota supplier in Japan. The engine is the heart and the transmission is the brains of a car. So no.. it had significant input in how the Lotus designed their cars.. Just like how BMW had significant input in Supra, a fact I have never denied..

2.  Toyota is the King because they have 2 dedicated sports cars. Other Japanese maker all don't even have. Maybe they will change now that Toyota has taken the mantle as the King of making jap sports cars. Nobody can deny that as FACT.

Fanboism exists. Deal with it.
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1. Aisin is not Toyota, it is a separate entity which Toyota has shares in. Yes, BMW significant input is "here is my car, u just copy pasta, and put your badge".

Mercedes: wei wei Toyota....i hear u wan to be king of sports car yo but your suv boring! come rebadge my g63....u can call it Harrier King aka Harry The King
Toyota: good idea yo! it dun matter i dun even have 1 part of it in tat car, u take care of the spare parts yo! i just charge my customer abit higher than ur cost price to me but abit lesser than real g63 part! win win!


2. WTF u talking about Subaru rice bowl is the STI/WRX....owai so Toyota own's Subaru shares so Subaru = Toyota....correct? Fanboi wins rolleyes.gif
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King of Japan sports car? laugh.gif

All the while Japanese treat Nissan GTR as their god sport car.
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CBK why google dun respect da king!
Why not other manufacturers there!
Suppose only Toyota!
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Feb 27 2020, 03:49 PM)
King of Japan sports car? laugh.gif

All the while Japanese treat Nissan GTR as their god sport car.
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it's not called godzilla for nothing brows.gif
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KNS google y u no respect da king? laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Liamness @ Feb 27 2020, 03:08 PM)
Lotus Elise & Exige uses the Toyota 2zz super-charger engine..  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif

The Toyota MR-2 was also designed with Mid-ship roundabout, similar to these Lotus pocket-rockets..

Toyota is the King la.. You all just don't want to admit the truth.
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so?

why put it in other cars? why not design it to be used on your own sports cars?

if anything Lotus gets the spotlight here for making the best handling sports cars chassis, and they're only using normie Toyota Corolla engine kek

everything good about Lotus is not the engine, it's everything else but the engine

heck the best Lotus in the planet has a K20/K24 swapped engine from Honda lmao

this makes Toyota the King of Jap Normie Cars, bikos that's the truth, everyone can accept that, no one is denying that

but calling Toyota King of Jap Sports Cars is lemao

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i would like to advise people at this thread

1. stop feeling the troll or someone that just plug something out from butt/paper and youtube.
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QUOTE(mushigen @ Feb 27 2020, 10:40 AM)
NSX itu apa?
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QUOTE(winter01942 @ Feb 27 2020, 03:38 PM)
supra - BMW's platform
ft86 - Modified Impreza platform

anyway, hail the king Toyota
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So what? Its still a dedicated sports car platform..

You see.. all you guys just shooting your mouth that toyota is using different manufacturer engine, platform, parts, etc. But at the end of the day, it's a car toyota paid and put together for their customers.

They paid to acquire those parts and built their car for the end user. Hence why I have said that they are the King. Not because they built the best sports car, no.. Because they put their customer dreams and aspirations over making profits..
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QUOTE(zenix @ Feb 27 2020, 02:52 PM)
TS is a delusional shiok sendiri guy
dowan talk facts only want to win
lets all just reply with this meme
i'll start first

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Ok la, at least Toyota come back since 2002 yo. Others keep waiting they come back join the game
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QUOTE(zenix @ Feb 27 2020, 01:47 PM)
Z4 does have a M variant.



i like this quote "it's as quick as you like it to be" that mean's it's slow with extra words  laugh.gif
but seriously the S54 engine is no slouch coz it's an M powered car engine
while the supra only gets the B558 which is the regular z4 engine
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Thats why i said what i said. Last gen Z4 never had a coupe version. I read that BMW does not want to make a coupe version anymore. Somehow maybe BMW was approached by Toyota to make a coupe version and use the Supra name. That gen of bread van style Z4M is actually good looking. Most does not like it somehow. The new Zupr4 has that old Z4M silhouette. Since everything is BMW under there, you can bet all the BMW tuners in Europe would have a fun time with this car. I have a really hard time spotting Zupr4 in most of Japan car videos. Probably because it is very expensive to tune a German car than a "REAL JAPAN" car. Or maybe it is a loyalty or patriotic thing? When GT86/ BRZ came, Japan tuning shops went raining meatballs over this car. laugh.gif Can't say the same sentiment for Zupr4.

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QUOTE(Liamness @ Feb 27 2020, 11:39 AM)
2020 Toyota Supra - 3.0L RM540,000.00
0-100km/h in 4.3s.
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The best sports-car of 2020, at reasonable price too.
2020 Toyota 86 - 2.0L RM300,000.00
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Infamous tofu delivery service. RWD & great handling capabilities. One of the best experience and fun sports car to drive today.

Honda is so far behind the game now.. All they have is a Civic Type R.. boring.
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Japanese sports cars not desireable at all, thought it is very good

Italian sports car > all

Inb4 mimpi je


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"Toyota" konon, one is built in Austrian factory by BMW and the other built in Subaru factory

You have better chance to get spare part at BMW SC for the "Supra" than Toyota
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QUOTE(smallcrab @ Feb 27 2020, 05:02 PM)
Japanese sports cars not desireable at all, thought it is very good

Italian sports car > all

Inb4 mimpi je
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buy lfa, old nsx
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QUOTE(ayanami_tard @ Feb 27 2020, 05:01 PM)
Meh I'd rather have land cruiser. everyday can drive cam cb macam jalan raya tu bapak aku punya
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here ppl all look up to gtr
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QUOTE(edwedw @ Feb 27 2020, 04:35 PM)
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actually this is a fair point and more towards reality.
seriously the king of sports car come back was when nissan unveiled the new fairlady and GT to replace the skyline.

QUOTE(netmatrix @ Feb 27 2020, 04:59 PM)
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it's like building an extra bismarck and calling it yamato, right? laugh.gif

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vellfire lah buy number plate 1
put tinted 99
call ourselves datuk
can park anywhere laugh.gif

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QUOTE(Liamness @ Feb 27 2020, 10:41 AM)
acura is a super car.. Not a sports car, daily driver.. different market segment.

It's not even part of honda badge or fleet la..
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370z is still in production, despite being an older design, it is still quite decent in price, performance package.
Lexus as well for Lc500 or the F series of their car though you can argue they are Toyota as well.
Impreza is still in production, and nothing comparable in the target market since Evo is gone.
MX-5 is decent as well.

 

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