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post Feb 27 2020, 08:29 AM, updated 6 months ago

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KUALA LUMPUR: Some RM170mil were banked into the account of Putra Perdana Constructions (PPC) Sdn Bhd as an “advance” for a contract and from that amount, RM32mil ended up in Datuk Seri Najib Razak’s personal bank accounts, the High Court heard.

Datuk Rosman Abdullah, 53, who is the group managing director of Putrajaya Perdana Bhd (PPB) that owns PPC, testified that the monies were transferred into its subsidiary company’s bank account in three tranches – RM35mil on July 8,2014, RM105mil on July 14,2014, and RM30mil on Aug 8,2014 – on the instructions of fugitive financier Low Taek Jho.

“I was initially told by Low that the RM170mil was an advance for a contract he was negotiating to be entered into by PPC, ” he said.

Out of the RM170mil, RM27mil was banked into Najib’s AmBank account ending 880 on July 8,2014 and RM5mil into his account ending 906 on Sept 10,2014.

Rosman, however, said he did not know that the accounts belonged to Najib.

“I was shocked when my attention later was drawn to certain Internet publications which alleged that the accounts belonged to Najib.

“When I was remanded by the Malaysian Anti-Corruption Commission (MACC) in July 2015, the investigators also told me the same thing, ” he said during examination-in-chief by Najib’s lawyer Farhan Read yesterday.

For the record, Rosman is the major shareholder of PPB Group through his wholly-owned company Cendana Destini Sdn Bhd.

The company acquired interest in PPB Group from UBG Bhd (Utama Banking Group), which is owned by Low, for a purchase price of RM240mil.

The sale agreement was in 2012 but the acquisition was only completed on April 13,2015 after the purchase price of RM240mil was fully paid.

At the time the RM170mil came into PPC, Low was still the beneficial owner of PPB Group.

“I did not think I had a say in this as long as there was no eventual liability to the PPB Group when my buy-out was concluded, ” said Rosman.

The witness said there was no agreement to advance monies to Najib at any time and he had never consented to such action.

Rosman was arrested by the MACC on July 24,2015 and remanded for four days before he was released.

He said prior to his arrest, Low came across as a competent and trustworthy businessman.

“We developed what seemed to me at that time to be a cordial professional relationship. I thought of him also as a micro manager.

“Subsequent to my arrest and remand, and now having what seems to be a clear picture of what happened in the RM170mil transfers episode, I would describe him as a highly smooth and effective scammer in so far as these transactions are concerned, ” he said.

Najib is facing seven charges – three for criminal breach of trust, one for abuse of power and three for money laundering involving SRC International Sdn Bhd funds totalling RM42mil.

The hearing continues before Justice Mohd Nazlan Mohd Ghazali
https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2020...najibs-accounts

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QUOTE(annoymous1234 @ Feb 27 2020, 08:29 AM)
“I was shocked when my attention later was drawn to certain Internet publications which alleged that the accounts belonged to Najib.
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post Feb 27 2020, 08:33 AM

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So many accusations, he's still not in jail.
Some bloke stole rm2 from tabung masjid already masuk jail.
Please throw him into jail already
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post Feb 27 2020, 08:35 AM

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QUOTE(ZerOne01 @ Feb 27 2020, 08:33 AM)
So many accusations, he's still not in jail.
Some bloke stole rm2 from tabung masjid already masuk jail.
Please throw him into jail already
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i dont get it too.. always when involve politician, why so long?
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QUOTE(ZerOne01 @ Feb 27 2020, 08:33 AM)
So many accusations, he's still not in jail.
Some bloke stole rm2 from tabung masjid already masuk jail.
Please throw him into jail already
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How stupid isn't it, with all the evidence, audio clips, witnesses etc ... he still walks free. If a normal person he/she would have been in prison in a blink ... Is this fair and just or the system is broken?
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QUOTE(nugget_piece @ Feb 27 2020, 08:35 AM)
i dont get it too.. always when involve politician, why so long?
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I understand it's not the easiest case like stealing tabung but we afraid he will be free after all this shit. I am a melei but I don't condone this shit.


QUOTE(Spear2 @ Feb 27 2020, 08:36 AM)
How stupid isn't it, with all the evidence, audio clips, witnesses etc ... he still walks free. If a normal person he/she would have been in prison in a blink ... Is this fair and just or the system is broken?
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Law is for the poor. I always believe this, and you need to, too.
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post Feb 27 2020, 08:42 AM

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RM32mil ?

Wait for UmnoPas win GE15, all is forgiven, those who hurt bossku fragile little heart will get bulldozed into a large hole and buried alive. whistling.gif
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How the heck you transfer without beneficiary name wtf lol
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QUOTE(ZerOne01 @ Feb 27 2020, 08:39 AM)
I understand it's not the easiest case like stealing tabung but we afraid he will be free after all this shit. I am a melei but I don't condone this shit.
Law is for the poor. I always believe this, and you need to, too.
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Believe and reality are different obviously.
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QUOTE(Spear2 @ Feb 27 2020, 08:43 AM)
Believe and reality are different obviously.
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True. But the reality convinced me the same.
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QUOTE(Spear2 @ Feb 27 2020, 08:36 AM)
How stupid isn't it, with all the evidence, audio clips, witnesses etc ... he still walks free. If a normal person he/she would have been in prison in a blink ... Is this fair and just or the system is broken?
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Law & religion has always been hijacked by the Elites to shackle the masses, dulu, kini & selama nya.
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QUOTE(Spear2 @ Feb 27 2020, 08:36 AM)
How stupid isn't it, with all the evidence, audio clips, witnesses etc ... he still walks free. If a normal person he/she would have been in prison in a blink ... Is this fair and just or the system is broken?
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QUOTE(ZerOne01 @ Feb 27 2020, 08:39 AM)
Law is for the poor. I always believe this, and you need to, too.
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This. When you are rich you can hire tens of lawyers who can drill the lawbook and find there relevant things to fight.

If you are poor, fight apa lanjiao? its either u admit guilty or get a pro bono lawyer who might win u or still get jailed.
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QUOTE(ZerOne01 @ Feb 27 2020, 08:39 AM)
I understand it's not the easiest case like stealing tabung but we afraid he will be free after all this shit. I am a melei but I don't condone this shit.
Law is for the poor. I always believe this, and you need to, too.
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QUOTE(nugget_piece @ Feb 27 2020, 08:35 AM)
i dont get it too.. always when involve politician, why so long?
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they got the money to drag the court case....as most rich man do.....if petty thief, the judgement will be serve immediately
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QUOTE(ZerOne01 @ Feb 27 2020, 08:44 AM)
True. But the reality convinced me the same.
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There are many cases people with power and wealth get away with offences easier than people without. In principle people with power and wealth are well connected to people who are in the business of dispensing justice. It is only when power is lost like in the case of Najib losing the last GE, justice is brought upon him. Law is not only for the poor but with power and money it can be abused.
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Truth be told this fits NR narrative of him being clueless of everything regarding SRC charges
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QUOTE(Spear2 @ Feb 27 2020, 08:55 AM)
There are many cases people with power and wealth get away with offences easier than people without. In principle people with power and wealth are well connected to people who are in the business of dispensing justice. It is only when power is lost like in the case of Najib losing the last GE, justice is brought upon him. Law is not only for the poor but with power and money it can be abused.
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Okay my point stand, but with additional point from you laugh.gif
Law is for the poor. The one with power and money can easily bypassed it.
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QUOTE(limadekad @ Feb 27 2020, 09:00 AM)
Truth be told this fits NR narrative of him being clueless of everything regarding SRC charges
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Being clueless is not even a defensive argument against crime committed like you don't see lawyer/defendant argue I don't know killing is a crime. If it is your personal account, you are accountable for any transaction in the account, particularly when it is an active account. Feign ignorance is just so BS ...
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is it when you transfer a big enuf amount, details of the account to transferring to becomes irrelevant and dont need to confirm anything? hmm.gif

and here we are.. mau transfer RM2 also can see whose name come up when enter bank acct no laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

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QUOTE(Spear2 @ Feb 27 2020, 09:07 AM)
Being clueless is not even a defensive argument against crime committed like you don't see lawyer/defendant argue I don't know killing is a crime. If it is your personal account, you are accountable for any transaction in the account, particularly when it is an active account. Feign ignorance is just so BS ...
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There are 2 judgement he is facing, court and public.
He's using this to win the public perception and paint himself as the victim.
Another thing he never said he did not know what he did was wrong merely saying he wasn't aware of all the transaction (acc managed by someone else) and he never ordered any of the transaction.
Truth be told what other option does he have? It's not like he have any evidence he's innocent.

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QUOTE(limadekad @ Feb 27 2020, 09:19 AM)
There are 2 judgement he is facing, court and public.
He's using this to win the public perception and paint himself as the victim.
Another thing he never said he did not know what he did was wrong merely saying he wasn't aware of all the transaction (acc managed by someone else) and he never ordered any of the transaction.
Truth be told what other option does he have? It's not like he have any evidence he's innocent.
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He used that account frequently so how is it he was not aware? Even if you are a rich guy, you spend 1M in a week from that account, after some time would you not ask your manager of that account, hey, how much left and why it seems limitless? The only defense is to show NR to be insane or abnormal, otherwise this kind of argument can be dismissed without wasting everyone time.
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QUOTE(Spear2 @ Feb 27 2020, 09:56 AM)
He used that account frequently so how is it he was not aware? Even if you are a rich guy, you spend 1M in a week from that account, after some time would you not ask your manager of that account, hey, how much left and why it seems limitless? The only defense is to show NR to be insane or abnormal, otherwise this kind of argument can be dismissed without wasting everyone time.
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QUOTE(ZerOne01 @ Feb 27 2020, 09:33 AM)
So many accusations, he's still not in jail.
Some bloke stole rm2 from tabung masjid already masuk jail.
Please throw him into jail already
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the incredible amount of accusations is working in his favor.... if he got 1000 accusations... this means its gonna take 10 more years to finish the trial. The lucky b**tard can enjoy civilian life for a decade more.



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QUOTE(Spear2 @ Feb 27 2020, 08:36 AM)
How stupid isn't it, with all the evidence, audio clips, witnesses etc ... he still walks free. If a normal person he/she would have been in prison in a blink ... Is this fair and just or the system is broken?
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this is bolehland...

won't be surprised if najib goes scot-free
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QUOTE(Spear2 @ Feb 27 2020, 08:36 AM)
How stupid isn't it, with all the evidence, audio clips, witnesses etc ... he still walks free. If a normal person he/she would have been in prison in a blink ... Is this fair and just or the system is broken?
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It's an international money laundering case that spans hundreds of shell companies and accounts and multiple financial jurisdictions across the world.

The court case is unprecedented in Malaysia and even the world. It takes time for all evidence to be rendered, discussed and witnesses cross examined.

This is the proper answer.

The question you should ask is not "why is the trial taking so long", it should be: "Why did the judge allow bail for these crooks?"
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QUOTE(ZerOne01 @ Feb 27 2020, 08:33 AM)
So many accusations, he's still not in jail.
Some bloke stole rm2 from tabung masjid already masuk jail.
Please throw him into jail already
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If the bloke who stole RM2 can afford Najib's lawyer, he will never see the inside of the jail.

The Law only works for the rich, the poor just suck it up.
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QUOTE(FatalExe @ Feb 27 2020, 10:58 AM)
It's an international money laundering case that spans hundreds of shell companies and accounts and multiple financial jurisdictions across the world.

The court case is unprecedented in Malaysia and even the world. It takes time for all evidence to be rendered, discussed and witnesses cross examined.

This is the proper answer.

The question you should ask is not "why is the trial taking so long", it should be:  "Why did the judge allow bail for these crooks?"
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Yes it's complicated, but the chances that the judgments based on all the evidence etc ... are wrong is infinitesimally small. IOW justice tries to be perfect but it cannot spend 2 years digging details that are remotely related, as the saying goes, as long as beyond reasonable doubt, off you go to prison.
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QUOTE(Spear2 @ Feb 27 2020, 11:23 AM)
Yes it's complicated, but the chances that the judgments based on all the evidence etc ... are wrong is infinitesimally small. IOW justice tries to be perfect but it cannot spend 2 years digging details that are remotely related, as the saying goes, as long as beyond reasonable doubt, off you go to prison.
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Yup, but that's the disadvantage of a common law court. But it has to be like this, because innocent till proven guilty. The rule of law must be upheld, or else the consequences will be far more worse in the long run

What the judge can do is just deny bail for these overwhelmingly obvious cases.
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QUOTE(FatalExe @ Feb 27 2020, 12:05 PM)
Yup, but that's the disadvantage of a common law court. But it has to be like this, because innocent till proven guilty. The rule of law must be upheld, or else the consequences will be far more worse in the long run

What the judge can do is just deny bail for these overwhelmingly obvious cases.
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Well this is where the gray area lies, how far you want the court to prove? If you have solid lawyers you go very far because they can argue every nook and cranny, even procedural inconsistency can render the charge void. But how about those ordinary people who can hardly afford to buy coffee for ordinary lawyers?

We don't live in a perfect world and to think the rule of the law must be upheld absolutely is a grave mistake IMO. At least you first must make creme la creme lawyer fees affordable even to the poorest.

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QUOTE(Spear2 @ Feb 27 2020, 12:12 PM)
Well this is where the gray area lies, how far you want the court to prove? If you have solid lawyers you go very far because they can argue every nook and cranny, even procedural inconsistency can render the charge void. But how about those ordinary people who can hardly afford to buy coffee for ordinary lawyers?

We don't live in a perfect world and to think the rule of the law must be upheld absolutely is a grave mistake IMO. At least you first must make creme la creme lawyer fees affordable even to the poorest.
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Which is why the judge should exercise his discretion accorded to him under the law and Constitution. He has the power to deny bail to these corrupt robbers with overwhelming evidence based on current proceedings and/or other sources such as Interpol red notices, etc
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QUOTE(bumpo @ Feb 27 2020, 09:08 AM)
is it when you transfer a big enuf amount, details of the account to transferring to becomes irrelevant and dont need to confirm anything?  hmm.gif

and here we are.. mau transfer RM2 also can see whose name come up when enter bank acct no  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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