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Intel Pentium Dual Core E2140/E2160/E2180 Thread, Discussion & Compilation
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 Jan 11 2008, 10:43 AM
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im going to get a 2140 next month, i plan to get Gigabyte p31-s3L@RM275 + OCZ DDR2 800MHz gold@RM80. my questions are...
can Gigabyte p31-s3L+2140 get 3GHz?
is it necessary to get a DDR2 800MHz for this intel platform? i saw this OCZ gold edition should sounds like a good deal at RM80, if this intel platform doesnt benefit much from faster RAM, then i just go for the cheapest DDR2 667MHz RAM.
*btw, whats the difference between a 800MHz and 667MHz ddr2? other than its speed? like i know, 800MHz got higher latency than 667MHz, so if i get a 667MHz RAM, i can increase its latency and gain speed?
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Jan 11 2008, 11:05 AM
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QUOTE(alan836 @ Jan 11 2008, 10:57 AM) hi all overclocker of E2XXX series, i'm running this E2160 (M0 stepping) on GA-P35-DS3P with pc-5300 1GBX2 kingston value ram wth CM extreame 550w PSU. Temp idle at 33c and full load at 55~58c. Current clock i can achieve in running othos stable is 337X9 or 380X8, i tried 400X8 it juz cant boot windows. vcore is at 1.45 on mobo auto adjust voltage, pcie is being fix at 100mhz. Ram latency is auto adjust by mobo. I'm wandering if u guys can give me some advice weather my cpu is at it's limit or my ram is pulling me back. if i go higher thn the two setting, i cant seems able to boot properly or fail running othos. Thx in advance and have a nice day. as i know there is a 400MHz FSB wall for all Pentium E series. how about u try 380X9? by the way, hows high can your Kingston RAM overclock? there is this question bugging me whether to get a 800 or 667 MHz RAM. |
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Jan 11 2008, 11:35 AM
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QUOTE(clawhammer @ Jan 11 2008, 11:08 AM) sparrowed, you'll be fine with that setup. You can get DDR2-667, it'll still work. In terms of overclocking, what matters is the chips on the RAM, not the PR rating or brand. I know it works, the question that still bugging me is; to get a DDR2 667 or DDR2 800 which only different at RM10. and im not going to go high on RAM speed, i just want to make sure i able to do 1:1 FSB:RAM ratio @ 3GHz or more. |
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Jan 11 2008, 04:11 PM
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QUOTE(clawhammer @ Jan 11 2008, 03:15 PM) You should get a board which allows you to control voltages and that helps a lot  There are lots of IP35-E for sale in Garage Sales so you might want to consider that. how about Gigabyte P31-S3L ? |
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Jan 11 2008, 05:03 PM
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QUOTE(clawhammer @ Jan 11 2008, 04:26 PM) P31 is only a tad cheaper than P35 so why not get the better board with RM30 extra?  the only difference i found between these 2 boards, is only the gb Lan which the IP35 had. while both overclocks well. QUOTE(kucingfight @ Jan 11 2008, 04:55 PM) Anyways Celeron Dual Core E1200 should be coming out within the nxt few days. DID some google..they overclock well too ..1.6ghz --> 3.2ghz ...100% OC..hehe..keep in tune for that..if the E2xxx isnt cheap already and the amount of cache? it did have impact on performance if it is only 512kb per core. |
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Jan 11 2008, 05:13 PM
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QUOTE(jy14 @ Jan 11 2008, 05:05 PM) Hi guys, I'm looking for the M0 stepping for the E2140. Can I know which week is famed for its oc-ability ? Need ur expert opinion. Also, for those who wants to buy E 2160 and e2180, price drop expected around 21st jan, just to share some info. by how much? |
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Jan 11 2008, 05:24 PM
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QUOTE(clawhammer @ Jan 11 2008, 05:18 PM) sparrowed, are you sure the difference is only about the LAN? Did you miss out on the chipset on both the boards?
Added on January 11, 2008, 5:19 pmMy OC-guru kucingfight also sells CPU. Perhaps you guys can get some from him my mistake. feature wise, both are almost same. P31 is basically a strip down version of P35, performance wise, dont think any difference between P31 and P35. im looking for some cheap 2140 + either Ip35-e or p31-s3L mobo. he sells mobo also? This post has been edited by sparrowed: Jan 11 2008, 05:24 PM |
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Jan 21 2008, 05:46 PM
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QUOTE(OC4/3 @ Jan 21 2008, 12:23 PM) IP35E,have used quite some and is reliable and a good ocer.MSI have reputation of always RMA so think carefully. that's correct, i got a MSI motherboard and have trouble getting my warranty with the dealer. It broke down after a year i bought it, the warranty card states that I have 3 years warranty but i couldnt get the 3 years warranty as the dealer refuse to deal with my warranty unless i pay them RM80. whereas i got another Abit motherboard, overclocked and used for over 2 years and it is still alive and kicking well. therefore, im going to get the IP35-E, cost only RM310. never ever buy MSI products anymore. |
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Jan 22 2008, 06:24 PM
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QUOTE(akachester @ Jan 22 2008, 05:39 PM) This is normal from sellers out there. Most of them ONLY covers 1 year warranty even though the product have 3 years. The next 2 years, you will need to warranty it by going to distributor yourself... ya, i personally phone them (Enlight sdn bhd) and went to their office. They told me to pay RM80, else i fly over to Taiwan and get warranty myself. |
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Jan 29 2008, 05:55 PM
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QUOTE(kucingfight @ Jan 29 2008, 04:16 PM) got his model from intel? how much is it? i saw the E2180 just drop to RM230 from RM260++. |
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Jan 31 2008, 06:22 PM
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the price of 2160 drop/equal to 2140 now, which is around RM225-240 depend on shops.
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Feb 15 2008, 10:31 AM
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QUOTE(a1098113 @ Feb 15 2008, 12:34 AM) @ clawy bro hmm his is 2200 bro. I dont know whether can follow same concept. But i agree that having lower mult/high fsb is better for better performance isnt it that higher FSB wont have impact on performance? in this case, i can only see that higher FSB will allow to do 1:1 on higher RAM bandwidth with some performance gain. |
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Feb 18 2008, 01:10 AM
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hi, i just get a 2160 and IP35E. and this is the problem i get.  i already set the CPU volt to 1.30 and set the muliplier to 8X and disable the EIST. what i get is that, i cant get the voltage change at all, the same goes with multilplier and EIST seem to be cant-disable. is this normal? *i flash the BIOS from oldest to newest, and the prob still persist. What worst is that, with the newest BIOS, i cant overclock AT ALL. everytime i do it i will get to 133FSB. This post has been edited by sparrowed: Feb 18 2008, 01:12 AM |
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Feb 18 2008, 09:24 AM
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QUOTE(flatfinger @ Feb 18 2008, 02:41 AM) used software like cpu-z or HWMonitor to read ur voltage and other info... ya, i use CPUZ to check but i still remain at 1.26.. the default voltage, and the same goes with the multiplier; set 1.30V and 8X multiplier in BIOS but get different readings in CPUZ and other applications. by the way, i use OCCT to test my overclock at 3.2GHz using; temp max around 68C, idle around 41C in an air cond room. is this normal? This post has been edited by sparrowed: Feb 18 2008, 09:31 AM |
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Feb 18 2008, 10:09 AM
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QUOTE(flatfinger @ Feb 18 2008, 09:48 AM) u must disable CPU feature when overclocking including the C1E n EIST.... bios reading will be not the same as in window...coz most of intel mobo got vdrop... example u set in bios vcore at 1.35v...in window it maybe only 1.31v.. ya i get what u mean by vdrop, as stated by other forumners, my ip35e got vdrop of around 0.02. the problem here isnt the vdrop, it just cant raise at all for the voltage. like raising it to 1.40, it still read as 1.26 in CPUZ. And i've disabled the EIST and C1E. the same goes with multiplier. |
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Feb 18 2008, 01:32 PM
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QUOTE(flatfinger @ Feb 18 2008, 11:51 AM) weird?? abit IP35-E should be a nice oc mobo...how bout the bios...do u update it.. i have tested from oldest BIOS to newest BIOS, problem still there. worst thing is that in new BIOS, the FSB just couldnt set correctly when i OC; eg: 9X333 will give me like 9X133... |
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Feb 19 2008, 10:05 AM
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QUOTE(rozz_1291 @ Feb 18 2008, 06:28 PM) @a1098113 Well, I guess dis is da furthers I can do..... I cannot tighten up my timings anymore.... Now @ 5-5-5-12 2T..... N I think E2180 cannot go above 3.20ghz.... Tried 3.25ghz, can boot up, but get BSOD sumtimes.... especially when playing Dota.... Thanks bro...  i dont believe 3.20GHz is the limit as ur FSB is only 320 and RAM bandwidth-640MHz which is below your RAM specification and u needn't tweak your RAM timings at all. anyway, i can do 3.3GHz @ 412FSB @ 824MHz RAM using 2160+IP35E+Aeneon 667MHz RAM. i havent really test the stability (just simply run a 32M superpi only). maybe your PSU is the culprit as stated by other forumners. u try running it at 1.36Vcore and see. |
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Feb 19 2008, 02:19 PM
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QUOTE(clawhammer @ Feb 19 2008, 12:03 PM) Your RAMs can do a lot better. Previously I've done 430FSB 1:1 with it also. how high can u get? i mean the max OC for your ram. |
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Feb 20 2008, 09:40 AM
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Wanna ask, is this normal temperature reading for my E2160? -> 366X9 (3294MHz) using 1.38Vcore load temperature is around 73C idle is around 42-43C. **using stock heatsink
by the way, everytime i run any stressing program (2XsuperPI, OCCT...) the temperature jumped from 43C to 51C++ in just a split of a second. is this normal? and when i quickly stop the stressing program, the temperature drop (in a split of a second also) from 51C++ to 43C. Why is it there are this jumped temperature readings? isnt it suppose to raise linearly like maybe 43-45-46-47....
This post has been edited by sparrowed: Feb 20 2008, 09:45 AM
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Feb 20 2008, 10:29 AM
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QUOTE(Amedion @ Feb 20 2008, 09:52 AM) I think that is normal .. My AMD also like this.. From 34c ... Open Firefox .. Shoot to 43c.. Then I din touch anything.. Back to 34c.. Anyway guys.. Why this thread don't have someone who can do the list in first page? EAsy for reference.. I still don't know which motherboard to get.. biostar / abit or gigabyte.. ? Must be highly overclockable & cheap so i can fund cooler.. I'm switching from AMD > intel.. during last week before i bought my intel system i got these choices: Abit IP35E@RM300, Gigabyte P31 DS3L @RM300, Gigabyte P35 DS3L@RM340. the p31 DS3L and IP35E have identical features other than chipset while the P35 DS3L have GbLan,IEEE 1394 which IP35E and P31 DS3L dont have. all of them are highly recommended mobo, u can google and read their reviews. I have a hard time choosing these mobos but finally i choose IP35E, to be honest a bit disappointed with this mobo; dual booting issue, buggy BIOS (have to flash to a beta BIOS only solve the prob), and unable to adjust the PCIE voltage(to OC graphic card). |
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