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post Jan 7 2008, 10:53 AM

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Just wondering, what might be the safe zone temperature for idle and load for E2140?

OCed one yesterday to only a mere 2.0Ghz. Dont dare to try more as i am on stock cooler. Current idle temp is 31c.
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post Jan 7 2008, 11:40 AM

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Yea, preparing for Penryn.

Anyway, clawhammer, you mean if my load temperature is anything below 70c, it should be fine?
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post Jan 8 2008, 10:21 AM

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Ok..I will try it when i get the everest. I have already OCed my E2140 to 2.4Ghz yesterday (300 * 8). Idle temperature is at a steady 28c - 30c. Still no load temperature yet as i have yet to settle all the stuff in my current OS. Will download everest and see how thing goes hopefully by this 2 days...
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post Jan 11 2008, 07:12 AM

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Hi there guys,

I am not sure this is a problem or not but it feels kinda weird to me. As said, i OCed my E2140 to 2.4Ghz (300 * 8) the other day and all went well..

After a while, i launched the Asus AI Suite and CPU-Z and to my surprise, its only showing my E2140 to be running on 1.8Ghz (300 * 6). The multiplier itself went down from 8 to 6. However, when i try to run some program and installer, again, both CPU-Z and Asus AI Suite automatically change the value from 1.8Ghz to 2.4Ghz.

I am wondering, is it normal for the multiplier to change automatically?
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post Jan 13 2008, 06:39 PM

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Yikes, my hand got itchy and i took off the stock cooler, cleaned everything and install it back with AS5. Idle temperature used to be 26c. Now, its already at 40c. Darn..Must be something wrong during installation. Not too used with the HSF of Intel.

Really waiting for my Freezer. Reverted everything back to stock cause i am worried i might fry my processor...
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post Jan 14 2008, 07:18 AM

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QUOTE(kucingfight @ Jan 13 2008, 08:08 PM)
how did u mount it..try the X mouting way, alternate opposite X direction push pinning.
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Pardon me but could you explain more on this? I dont really get it..Sorry for my noobiness..LOL...

Anyway, would it be due to Vista? Previous temperature (from bios) was on XP. New temperature was on Vista.
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post Jan 14 2008, 12:26 PM

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QUOTE(bryanyeo87 @ Jan 14 2008, 12:10 PM)
when u mount the cooler, it has 4 pins right
1    3

2    4
imagine the above numbers are the pins, press down onto 1, then 4, then 3 then 2, to make an X pattern so the pressure is even
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Ic...Thanks for the guide. Will try it out again tonight... rclxms.gif notworthy.gif
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post Jan 14 2008, 04:10 PM

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Thanks alot for the info there bro. Will check out whether there is any difference in temperature or not tomorrow...

Hopefully, my Freezer is here as well at that point...
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QUOTE(rozz_1291 @ Jan 14 2008, 05:29 PM)
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Be sure not 2 put too much pressure also. Push slowly until u here a click sound....
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Ok..I am kinda getting freak out here. What WILL happen if i put "too" much preasure?Sorry but i had never been on Intel platform before and is kinda new to this new push pin thingy on the Intel Stock Cooler. Was adapted to the AMD type.. tongue.gif

Does this mean, i should :

- Push the pin down first

- Then, twist the pin to lock it?


But how do i know whether i push enough down? With the click sound? rclxub.gif

Edited :

OT: Just wondering, do you guys know whether there is a better mounting kit (like the screw ones from Xigmatek) for the Freezer 7? I kinda dislike the clip on (stock) mounting already.. tongue.gif

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post Jan 15 2008, 07:21 AM

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Ok..Got the info there rozz_1291. Thanks alot...

Never knew about those easy to break clips though..LOL..I always thought they are built strong..

Anyway, didnt have the chance to reseat the heatsink yesterday. Back from work too late. But i did check the temperature and the idle temperature as said, has fallen from 40c to 35c yesterday.
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post Jan 19 2008, 11:09 PM

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Tried to boot my system today with 350 * 8 (2.8Ghz) and 1053Mhz 4-4-4-12 today and it works..

Load temperature is about 45c on MX-2 and AC7Pro. Is that good? Is there any program i could use to test the stability at this setting?
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post Jan 20 2008, 06:41 PM

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QUOTE(rozz_1291 @ Jan 19 2008, 11:19 PM)
If it is full load @ 45, then it ok..... If u run a stress test, then u will know wheather its stable or not.....

How bout taking it to 3.0ghz..... hmm.gif  Evrything seems ok..... nod.gif
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Well, something went really really weird today after installing the new CPU Cooler yesterday. This morning, i restarted my PC, turn off Intel Speed Step and C1E as recommended and rebooted the system to run at 380 * 8 (3.04Ghz). Everything ran fine but after a while, BSOD appears and system restarted. Its still running at stock Vcore as i did not change any other features.

Turned it back to 350 * 8 and rebooted. Everything is fine again until i ran CoreTemp. Suprisingly, its showing my system to be idling at 55c rclxub.gif Is it even normal? Is CoreTemp stable & accurate on Vista32bit?

Tried load temp and it went almost 63c. Ok, ambient temperature was really hot today (i was sweating like crazy) but would it go that far?

I was afraid, so i turned everything back to normal stock speed, fan at 100% but coretemp is still recording 52c. Bios was showing around 45c as well. More important is, my mobo temperature is showing over 60c. Is it ok for the mobo temperature to be that high?

QUOTE(rozz_1291 @ Jan 20 2008, 06:29 PM)
Hrmm... How bout  mine??? hmm.gif  Izzit MO or not.... I got it around last 4 months.... nod.gif
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Try checking with CPU-Z. My E2140 is M0 stepping and i bought it less than 1 month ago... smile.gif

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QUOTE(rozz_1291 @ Jan 20 2008, 06:59 PM)
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Well...then its time 2 increase da VCore 4rom stock 2 higher.... nod.gif  Bout ur temp increasing, i m not so sure..... i can giv u sum help but not so sure it might work..... Wait n c 4 advices 4rom other expert.....

1st check ur cooler contact.... Izzit properly fix.....
2nd, is make sure ur air circulation in da casing is properly exhaust n inhaust....hehehehe..... tongue.gif
Lastly, 63 @ full load is ok.....  thumbup.gif

N i think ur MoBo can take da heat......
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Well, i dare not to touch the Vcore though. Worried it might fried anything..LOL..YOu know, nooby OCer. What range is safe for Vcore?

CPU Cooler wise, i did it the X-way like what adviced by people here. Not sure about the contact but everything fits nicely. Does MX-2 needs any curing time as my previous AS-5 on stock cooler do need some time to reach below 40c. And i did a rice grain method on the MX-2. Is that the cause of the problem?

Circulation wise, i could do nothing better already. I already took out the front panel of my A10 which i was worried blocking the airflow but still, everything looks the same. I did not try full load at a long time but i did run it at 100% for almost 10seconds only and its already showing 63c. LOL...

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lichyetan, thanks for the tips there. I think i am using the latest version of CoreTemp. Was worried that it might not be compatible with Vista 32bit though...

I did not mount the heatpipe fan though. Thought its only useful when using WC..Will try it out later..LOL..

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QUOTE(a1098113 @ Jan 20 2008, 07:07 PM)
@aka..
i am not clear... too many words for the day lol brows.gif i think try getting the latest core temp and hmm the other issue could be that the grip is too tight between the base and proc. MX2 needs curing time. But the temp is pretty high....
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Well, yes, the temperature is pretty high. Surprisingly, during my times on Stock Cooler, the E2140 at 300 * 8 is still showing about 35c only at idle and around 43c at load. After taking out the HSF, and applied AS5, things went bad. Idle went around 45c and did not try load. After a fews days of curing, things went back well at 39c.

Now, after changing the HSF again with MX-2, its showing this temp and its scaring me..LOL..

QUOTE(rozz_1291 @ Jan 20 2008, 07:12 PM)
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Dun worry..... juz dun increase above 1.5v.... Like mine, 1.36@ 3.0ghz.... safe. No BSOD, overheating also.... thumbup.gif  + mine is at stock HSF @63 only.... Try increase 1.30v 1st.... if still got BSOD, up 2 1.35v.... Be sure 2 monitor ur temp also as increasing VCore can increase da temp 2.... Evry slight increase boot it up n run stress test..... Keep on do da same steps if symptom continues.....ok nod.gif
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Thanks for the tips there bro. I will try it out later. At least it seems i did get a good batch of E2140 here. smile.gif

QUOTE(a1098113 @ Jan 20 2008, 07:20 PM)
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i thought u r not noob laugh.gif haha. jk jk. Just monitor the temps for two days and see whether its the same. If it is then u would have to refix it again.. but less tighter. By the way bro, what cooler are you using, is it like stated in your  sig.
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LOL..I am still a noob. Not knowing too much about OCing and stuff tongue.gif Thats what i am currently doing, monitoring the temperature and see how thing goes. Heat are pouring out at the exhaust fans as we speak. LOL...

You mean seating the HSF too tight will also cause problem? Yes, i am using the Arctic Cooling Freezer Pro 7 here... smile.gif
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QUOTE(kucingfight @ Jan 20 2008, 08:14 PM)
there's no such things as '2' batches of M0. it's jus boils down to ur luck in getting one. In general, M0 would overclock better than L2
again, it's ur luck, either a dud or good M0
Probably, 3.08ghz is da max on default vcore, u need 2 pump more to scale higher. Which Coretemp version are you on, the 0.96 has screwed temp
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Thanks kucingfight. I am most probably on the 0.96 CoreTemp. So which one do you recommend which is more accurate?
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QUOTE(kucingfight @ Jan 20 2008, 08:28 PM)
0.95.4
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Thanks alot there kucingfight.

Redownloaded the CoreTemp 0.95.4 just now and its now showing idle temperature at 39c as compared to the 53c shown at 0.96.1.

Hopefully, this is the correct temperature..LOL.. smile.gif
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QUOTE(a1098113 @ Jan 20 2008, 10:30 PM)
@aka
bro there is a newer one out now. Its coretemp 0.96. Its the latest. Get it.

After looking at cats post i retract this and yes agreed get 0.95.4 just tested 0.96, not much difference but hmm
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Well, i am using it previously - the newest CoreTemp and its showing my temperature to be at 53 - 56c at idle at stock which really scares me.

However, when i revert back to the 0.95.4 version, its currently showing me to run at 39c even on 2.4Ghz (300 * 8). Even when i rebooted, my bios temperature reading is showing me roughly the same, at around 37c. So, i guess the older version was more accurate than the newer version though. At least at my case.

Another thing is, the newer 0.96 version is showing my TjMax to be at 100c shocking.gif while the older one is showing 85c though...

QUOTE(kucingfight @ Jan 20 2008, 10:34 PM)
LOL, at least the lower figure gives u a better feeling.  laugh.gif

But logically on idle, it should be 39C, at least not until 53C . You can always finger test the hsf and the area around it.
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LOL..Yea, its at least giving me less heartattack. tongue.gif

Well, i would love to test it a few days first and see whether its still around the same or not. Lets hope the MX-2 will be better after curing..LOL...

Thanks for the guidance there..

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QUOTE(kucingfight @ Jan 20 2008, 10:53 PM)
Tjunc for L2 = 85C , M0 is 100C. it's perfectly normal.
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OIC, and i was overreacting..LOL...

So, is it normal for 0.94.5 to show my M0 to have a Tjunc at 85c?

Besides, check everything today and it seems they are back to normal. 34c at idle seems very realistic to me now...

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About Vcore, i might try to pump it over 3Ghz tonight (if i have the time). May i know, should i go slowly with the Vcore or i could just pump it up as long as it does not exceed 1.5V?

Last time when i did 380 * 8, it booted but BSOD after that..LOL...

However, i did that at a 1:1 ratio and my ram setting is at DDR1053 4-4-4-12 though. Should i make the timing looser?

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QUOTE(sparrowed @ Jan 21 2008, 05:46 PM)
that's correct, i got a MSI motherboard and have trouble getting my warranty with the dealer. It broke down after a year i bought it, the warranty card states that I have 3 years warranty but i couldnt get the 3 years warranty as the dealer refuse to deal with my warranty unless i pay them RM80.

whereas i got another Abit motherboard, overclocked and used for over 2 years and it is still alive and kicking well. therefore, im going to get the IP35-E, cost only RM310. never ever buy MSI products anymore.
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This is normal from sellers out there. Most of them ONLY covers 1 year warranty even though the product have 3 years. The next 2 years, you will need to warranty it by going to distributor yourself... smile.gif

QUOTE(clawhammer @ Jan 22 2008, 12:37 AM)
Get the latest version of Coretemp where they fix the Tjunction back to 85.
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Well, the same thing happened to me as well. My M0 is showing Tjunc to be at 85c at 0.95.4 while at 0.96.1, its showing Tjunc to be at 100. I remember someone saying that M0 will have 100c as Tjunc while L2 is 85c.

So, iman_210, whats your stepping?
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Wondering here guys, buy turning ON the C1E and Intel Speed Step technology, would it automatically change the FSB and multiplier?

I always thought it only turn down the multiplier to save energy. Cause yesterday, i tried turning it on and when i launched my trusty CoreTemp, its showing me that i am running at 400 * 6 (2.4Ghz). My original clock was supposed to be 300 * 8 (2.4Ghz).

Then, i tried running extensive program and the clock went back to the 300 * 8...

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