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 Intel Pentium Dual Core E2140/E2160/E2180 Thread, Discussion & Compilation

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post Jan 1 2008, 01:07 PM

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Anyone who had successfully done the BSEL mod on these E21x0? I think those so called windows defogger kit isn't readily available in Malaysia.

Kinda need to get the 1066MHz mod done to crack 266MHz on my Conroe1333-D667 mobo due to the PCI-E frequency. biggrin.gif
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post Jan 4 2008, 02:28 PM

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Finally got my Dual-Core rig up and running

Specs:
- Intel E2140 L2 (VID 1.325v)
- AsRock ConRoe1333-D667
- 2x 1GB Team Group Value PC-5300
- Enermax FMAII 460W

Guess that's all. Just a simple rig to replace my aging one.

Did 2.8GHz(350MHz FSB) on stock VCore, probably the on-board graphics crapping out instead of the FSB wall laugh.gif Probably getting an E2160 was the better idea since 9x 333MHz will easily net it 3GHz instead wink.gif

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SuperPI 1M at 22.187s.
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post Jan 4 2008, 02:44 PM

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Yeah... forgot to mention i did my BSEL mod to get rid of the PCI-E at 120MHz when clocked to 266MHz FSB. laugh.gif Guess what i used? Kitchen Aluminium foil! laugh.gif Took quite a few attempts to get it right though, and a tab of glue to fix it in place, tested with a multimeter and in the socket it goes, boots up at 266MHz FSB like a charm biggrin.gif

Now it's running 350MHz FSB with PCI-E at 120MHz, like mentioned by AsRock, PCI-E is at 115MHz when clocked at 333MHz FSB. Guess PCI lock don't seem to work. Even at stock speed(without BSEL), changing the PCI to Async will cause the mobo to not boot, checked in other forums and seems like it's a known "problem"
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post Jan 4 2008, 03:07 PM

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Well... the foil have a very high conductivity since well... it's real aluminium, just really really thin. Took a few times for me to get it done right, well... me and my chubby fingers laugh.gif

It's folding now, 58°C load on both cores from CoreTemp, using a Xigmatek S963 for cooling and some shitty thermal paste that was bundled with the Alpha PAL8045 HSF moons ago. laugh.gif
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post Jan 4 2008, 04:03 PM

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I think i'm using the 0.96 since i kinda downloaded the latest one. Where to get the older revision?

On the other hand, i used Intel's Thermal Analysis Tool, and it's consistent with CoreTemp 0.96 unsure.gif

Can't seem to get my RAM to run at 3.0-3-3-9 at DDR667 though, kinda running at a nothing special 4.0-4-4-12. Even with VDIMM set to max it's around 1.85v, have a way to Vmod it but i'm just being lazy.

Just an update, Core Temp 0.95 doesn't seem to work on my PC, the whole thing just hangs there, no BSOD, needs to press on the reset button instead. sweat.gif

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post Jan 5 2008, 11:21 AM

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How much lower did u lowered the clock speed?

Maybe u need more VCore, maybe your RAM couldn't take 1:1(so u need to run a divider to run the RAM slower than FSB just to see if that's the problem), quite a variance of "problems"
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post Jan 5 2008, 09:29 PM

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Some games will have less load on the CPU over some other games, best is to run stress testing like Folding@Home, OCCT, Orthos, Prime95 and the type wink.gif
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post Jan 6 2008, 04:09 PM

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Thanks for the welcome back... not that extreme la... i'm getting old already

Well... as for the E2160 and E2140 debate.. i couldn't find the E2160 for cheap laugh.gif So i just grabbed the E2140 i got for Celeron price tongue.gif
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post Jan 11 2008, 12:49 AM

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QUOTE(Andr3w @ Jan 10 2008, 06:01 PM)
I see from the gigabyte website...both GA-P35-DS3L(no onboard graphic) and GA-G31M-S2L(with onboard graphic) can support up to 1333Mhz FSB. So can they both overclock up to the same GHZ?

I thinking of getting GA-G31M-S2L because it's cheaper and I do not want to get a graphic card right now but I worry it cannot overclock as high as the other.

Any people have experience on this boards especially GA-G31M-S2L or other motherboard brand using G31 ...can advise on this? notworthy.gif
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Well... if they can support up to 1333MHz, basically means you'll be safe if you only plan to bring your processor up to 1333MHz FSB, but if you want more, you might want to look for other options.

I had great success with my AsRock Conroe1333-D667, also listed as stable to 1333MHz but i brought it up to 1400MHz using the internal graphics wink.gif
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post Jan 11 2008, 02:10 PM

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Well... it might probably help u scale higher as you have a low FSB wall on your mobo wink.gif
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post Jan 11 2008, 05:38 PM

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QUOTE(kucingfight @ Jan 11 2008, 04:55 PM)
Anyways Celeron Dual Core E1200 should be coming out within the nxt few days. DID some google..they overclock well too ..1.6ghz --> 3.2ghz ...100% OC..hehe..keep in tune for that..if the E2xxx isnt cheap already
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I've been counting the days to 20th of January since last year! laugh.gif

Seems like some guys managed to grab it off NCIX already.
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post Jan 11 2008, 10:17 PM

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P35 all the way, the price difference between the P31 and P35 isn't too much to justify cheaping out to get the P31. wink.gif
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post Jan 15 2008, 06:24 PM

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Got myself a retail E2160 to play with. Done the kitchen foil BSEL mod again(i'm starting to get better at doing this, 15 minutes and i'm done laugh.gif) and drop the processor into the socket.

Specs:
- Intel E2160 L2 (VID 1.325v) BSEL mod 200MHz --> 266MHz FSB
- Xigmatek HDT-S963 HSF (62°C full load via CoreTemp and Intel TAT reading)
- AsRock ConRoe1333-D667 R1.0
- 2x 1GB Team Group Value DDR2-667
- Enermax FMAII 460W

Chipset wall at 350MHz FSB. SuperPI 1M at 20.032s

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post Jan 17 2008, 01:22 AM

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QUOTE(bryanyeo87 @ Jan 15 2008, 07:49 PM)
u used as5 to stick the alu foil to the processor? biggrin.gif
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Nope, i just use regular "super glue", just a slightly dab/drop of it and it'll stick the foil in place. I'm hesistant about using AS as it's still slightly conductive and i don't want "accidents" to happen. Might have figured out a way to do the BSEL mod which is much easier compared to this one, but only for 200-->266, will try and report back.
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QUOTE(bryanyeo87 @ Jan 17 2008, 03:39 AM)
how about car defogger kits?

probably can get one from the brothers outlet in kelana jaya?
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I'm not aware of defogger repair kits being sold locally. Would be glad to try if there's any leads and doesn't cost too much, since well.. kitchen foil costs near to nothing laugh.gif

I used to have a tiny bottle of silver conductive ink from back in the AMD Athlon Palomino days(to unlock the bridges), but i really can't remember where i chucked it sweat.gif
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post Jan 18 2008, 11:28 AM

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QUOTE(bryanyeo87 @ Jan 18 2008, 01:32 AM)
the defogger kit is actually the back screen defogger... it should be available locally..
btw, where did you buy the conductive paint from anyway?
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Hm.. Yes, i do know it's to repair the back screen, but i ain't too sure about it's availability locally, at least, in retail, as a lot of DIY parts just don't make it to normal retail here in Malaysia, i know as i DIY a lot for most of my stuff tongue.gif But i guess i'll just ask around anytime i'm near any spare parts shop to get my car stuff.

I can't remember where i bought the conductive paint the last time. AXP Palomino days are like at least 6 years ago laugh.gif Man... i feel old tongue.gif

QUOTE(a1098113 @ Jan 18 2008, 06:48 AM)
talk about orthos... bro, i am going to get shot down by this but try OCCT. See whether you have an issue, its not that you are going to run an overclocked system for days, its just a one off thing rite?
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I kinda agree that OCCT is far more stressful(at least, in terms of testing CPU, not too sure about RAM) than Orthos or Folding@Home. Personally tried it, guess that's why most people only test it for 1 hour(compared to the tedious process of leaving the PC for at least 24 hours using Orthos/Prime95) to determine the stability of the processor. I've seem my core temps shot up at least 5°C higher than prime95/folding. rclxub.gif
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post Jan 18 2008, 07:27 PM

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I'm having same readings from both Intel's TAT and CoreTemp 0.96 though, so i guess that's pretty accurate?
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Didn't know Intel TAT has stress testing functions, guess i'll fiddle around laugh.gif
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QUOTE(akachester @ Jan 24 2008, 12:38 PM)
Wondering here guys, buy turning ON the C1E and Intel Speed Step technology, would it automatically change the FSB and multiplier?

I always thought it only turn down the multiplier to save energy. Cause yesterday, i tried turning it on and when i launched my trusty CoreTemp, its showing me that i am running at 400 * 6 (2.4Ghz). My original clock was supposed to be 300 * 8 (2.4Ghz).

Then, i tried running extensive program and the clock went back to the 300 * 8...
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I don't think they will change the FSB, only the multiplier

C1E = Lowers voltage on idle
EIST = Lowers multiplier on idle

Basically both are energy saving modules. I turn them off on my boards as i'm running Folding@Home full time which defeats the purpose of those features anyway laugh.gif
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Yeah... it seems that E2140 and E2160 is dropping in price to about RM5 difference only. Well... there's no certainty that L2 or M0 overclocks better, both have good and bad batch. But most E2160 would be easy to reach 3GHz juz by setting FSB to 333MHz biggrin.gif

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