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TStictac88
post Feb 22 2020, 04:52 PM, updated 6y ago

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nowadays i know of nobody that actually has visited pawn shop before. so how do they actually stay in business. rental also cost money right? i heard rumor about they are usually fronts for money laundering or ah loong business. not sure if it is true or not since it is just rumor.

i meant, if it is truly and very obviously money laundering front isn't it easy to crack down? imagine a front that cannot be cracked down then every songlap person can easily use it to justify their income. must be more to that than meeting the eye. hmm.gif

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post Feb 22 2020, 04:53 PM

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QUOTE(tictac88 @ Feb 22 2020, 04:52 PM)
nowadays i know of nobody that actually has visited pawn shop before. so how do they actually stay in business. rental also cost money right? i heard rumor about they are usually fronts for money laundering or ah loong business. not sure if it is true or not since it is just rumor.

i meant, if it is truly and very obviously money laundering front isn't it easy to crack down? imagine a front that cannot be cracked down then every songlap person can easily use it to justify their income. must be more to that than meeting the eye. hmm.gif
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There are plenty low income ppl that use pawn shop facilities. Mainly because the amount is not a lot and they don't qualify for bank loans. Better than loan shark.
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post Feb 22 2020, 04:55 PM

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Cash converters shop got many people frequent lah
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post Feb 22 2020, 04:56 PM

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QUOTE(Daddy2be @ Feb 22 2020, 04:53 PM)
There are plenty low income ppl that use pawn shop facilities. Mainly because the amount is not a lot and they don't qualify for bank loans. Better than loan shark.
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what can they pawn nowadays? if they are poor i think they won't have car or house. only jewelry from marriage? pawn shop won't accept things like clothings, computer, smartphones etc right since those devalue too quickly.
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post Feb 22 2020, 04:58 PM

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QUOTE(JoeK @ Feb 22 2020, 04:55 PM)
Cash converters shop got many people frequent lah
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Possible money laundering too. Selling price macam yahudi, doubt anyone would buy anything there. Some more got 3 staff manning the shop.
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post Feb 22 2020, 04:59 PM

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QUOTE(JoeK @ Feb 22 2020, 04:55 PM)
Cash converters shop got many people frequent lah
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post Feb 22 2020, 05:09 PM

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Cash converter and pawn shop many people go to sell or pawn their stuffs for some cash. Many are legit business, cant say about most.
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post Feb 22 2020, 05:15 PM

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I pawn my unwashed underwear for rm100
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post Feb 22 2020, 05:19 PM

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You can pawn your porn for prawn
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post Feb 22 2020, 05:21 PM

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TS never read news where pipu borrow sht tons of money to look good on cny and raya is it?
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post Feb 22 2020, 05:25 PM

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try to live in kampung area, u'll be shocked

p/s: thats where all the golds are
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post Feb 22 2020, 05:26 PM

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Still got people go.
TS must be richfag from big city.
In small towns, peasant like us still need pawnshop to ensure still got cash flow.
We pawned gold items to tide things over.
We can't get soft loan from banks because no solid income proof, no background, no kabel.
Once we got money, we will redeem those items back.
Of course, when we got the gold items back, they will be lighter or smaller than before.
This is because the pawn shop owners will chisel some off or cutting away few links in the gold chain.
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post Feb 22 2020, 05:27 PM

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QUOTE(tictac88 @ Feb 22 2020, 04:56 PM)
what can they pawn nowadays? if they are poor i think they won't have car or house. only jewelry from marriage? pawn shop won't accept things like clothings, computer, smartphones etc right since those devalue too quickly.
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Certain people, they like to spend all their money on things like watches or jewelry just to show off when balik kampung. After that regret no money buy rice, so they pawn it and take back some money. Rinse and repeat
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post Feb 22 2020, 05:27 PM

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Its not for us. Its for foreign workers
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post Feb 22 2020, 05:28 PM

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QUOTE(tictac88 @ Feb 22 2020, 04:52 PM)
nowadays i know of nobody that actually has visited pawn shop before. so how do they actually stay in business. rental also cost money right? i heard rumor about they are usually fronts for money laundering or ah loong business. not sure if it is true or not since it is just rumor.

i meant, if it is truly and very obviously money laundering front isn't it easy to crack down? imagine a front that cannot be cracked down then every songlap person can easily use it to justify their income. must be more to that than meeting the eye. hmm.gif
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Some Pawnshop already exists since merdeka time . From wooden open air window to high tech pos machine with display menu .
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post Feb 22 2020, 05:29 PM

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QUOTE(alanyuppie @ Feb 22 2020, 05:27 PM)
Its not for us. Its for foreign workers
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post Feb 22 2020, 05:46 PM

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I consulted for a nasdaq listed pawnshop. So you can ask me anything.

Pawnshops unlike the tv shop pawn stars, dont make most of their money from buy-sell but rather loans. 80-90% income is from providing secured loans at a very high interest rate. It is high because the labour and insurance associated with storing an item is high. In asia and mexico, the pawn market is immature, typically focused on jewellery only. High value. Lower cost to handle. These loans are effectively to serve the unbanked and underbanked.

In US, you can pawn nearly anything with value. Top items are TVs, game consoles, handyman tools, ladies bags, air jordans...have even seen children's violin and prosthetic limbs, car rims and tyres, firearms...literally anything with value you can pawn. They typically give you 50% of current market value of item as loan. Can be higher depending on how high your drop rate is. Drop rate is industry term for default rate i.e. when you dont come back foe item

Pawn is older than banking. One queen pawned crown jewels to fund a war. Forget who it was

This post has been edited by maxmillion: Feb 22 2020, 05:47 PM
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post Feb 22 2020, 05:47 PM

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subang and usj , a middle class area also got few pawn shop open these few years.. just coz u don't go, doesn't mean there is a segment of society that don't patronise it...
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post Feb 22 2020, 05:52 PM

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QUOTE(maxmillion @ Feb 22 2020, 05:46 PM)
I consulted for a nasdaq listed pawnshop. So you can ask me anything.

Pawnshops unlike the tv shop pawn stars, dont make most of their money from buy-sell but rather loans. 80-90% income is from providing secured loans at a very high interest rate. It is high because the labour and insurance associated with storing an item is high. In asia and mexico, the pawn market is immature, typically focused on jewellery only. High value. Lower cost to handle. These loans are effectively to serve the unbanked and underbanked.

In US, you can pawn nearly anything with value. Top items are TVs, game consoles, handyman tools, ladies bags, air jordans...have even seen children's violin and prosthetic limbs, car rims and tyres, firearms...literally anything with value you can pawn. They typically give you 50% of current market value of item as loan. Can be higher depending on how high your drop rate is. Drop rate is industry term for default rate i.e. when you dont come back foe item

Pawn is older than banking. One queen pawned crown jewels to fund a war. Forget who it was
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didn't know that, sounds very professional. i suppose it requires a very active 2nd hand market in order to achieve this bcos if customers cannot pay back the loan, the shop will need to find ways to resell those pawned items somehow.

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post Feb 22 2020, 06:08 PM

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QUOTE(maxmillion @ Feb 22 2020, 05:46 PM)
I consulted for a nasdaq listed pawnshop. So you can ask me anything.

Pawnshops unlike the tv shop pawn stars, dont make most of their money from buy-sell but rather loans. 80-90% income is from providing secured loans at a very high interest rate. It is high because the labour and insurance associated with storing an item is high. In asia and mexico, the pawn market is immature, typically focused on jewellery only. High value. Lower cost to handle. These loans are effectively to serve the unbanked and underbanked.

In US, you can pawn nearly anything with value. Top items are TVs, game consoles, handyman tools, ladies bags, air jordans...have even seen children's violin and prosthetic limbs, car rims and tyres, firearms...literally anything with value you can pawn. They typically give you 50% of current market value of item as loan. Can be higher depending on how high your drop rate is. Drop rate is industry term for default rate i.e. when you dont come back foe item

Pawn is older than banking. One queen pawned crown jewels to fund a war. Forget who it was
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Interesting what u wrote!
hmm.gif Say, in Msia, can we walk in to view and buy the unclaimed pawned jewellery at a discount after default term (how long? ) brows.gif

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