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Sacked for being 0.7kg overweight: Union says it’s ‘inhumane’
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The National Union of Flight Attendants Malaysia says overweight crew members can still perform their work and are not a ‘safety hazard’. (Bernama pic)
PETALING JAYA: The National Union of Flight Attendants Malaysia (Nufam) has called for justice after the “erroneously inhumane” sacking of an airline crew member from Malaysia Airlines for being 0.7kg overweight.

Flight supervisor Ina Meliesa Hassim filed a case against Malaysia Airlines in September 2017 for wrongful dismissal. Last Friday, the Industrial Court ruled in favour of the national carrier.

“Justice and basic human rights have died once more,” Nufam said in a statement today.

“Where is the justice which the country has been promoting via our Constitution?”



“We know the recent case may be a victory lap for MAB (Malaysia Airlines Berhad) and some airlines who also wish to get rid of their ‘old and slow’ employees, but that will not stop Nufam from continuing to condemn such mistreatment against cabin crew employees.”

In his decision, Industrial Court chairman Syed Noh Said Nazir @ Syed Nadzir said the airline had proved “on the balance of probabilities” the termination was with just cause or excuse.

It was reported that Ina Meliesa was dismissed for repeatedly failing to meet the airline’s weight requirement under a weight management programme for 18 months, which Malaysia Airlines said was part of its effort “to maintain its image as a premium airline”.

As Ina Meliesa’s height was 160cm, the maximum permissible weight under the company’s guidelines was 61kg. Her weight was 61.7kg at the last official weigh-in on April 10, 2017.

Noting that many major airlines still continue to retain overweight staff – some who have even become “grandmothers and grandfathers” – Nufam said such crew members can still perform their work and are not a “safety hazard” to the passengers and crew on board.

It also urged the government to amend labour laws which discriminate on such grounds, saying that it would be writing to the human resources ministry and the transport minister to ask them to reconsider such terminations by airlines.

“MAB should not feel happy or proud over the court decision as it only reflects poorly on the airline itself, displaying how an international airline has practised discriminatory (practices) while at the same time terming their overweight cabin crew employees as ‘no longer needed and slow’.

“Nufam has learnt that the airline is constantly looking to hire young, lean and slim cabin crew – but what will happen to them later if they were to grow beyond the weight limit in the next coming years?

“How will the female cabin crew maintain the airline’s ideal weight if they become pregnant later? Will the airline ground them and fire them, too?” Nufam asked
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Give u 18 months to improve your weight

Clearly u don't have a desire to keep this job.
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post Feb 21 2020, 10:30 AM

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Fail for 18 months ks unacceptable. Originally what was the weight?
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post Feb 21 2020, 10:32 AM

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post Feb 21 2020, 10:32 AM

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their signup contract already stated weight requirement.
so why union hoo haa inhumane?
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post Feb 21 2020, 10:33 AM

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it comes with the job scope to maintain weight what. you know what hole you diving into right
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post Feb 21 2020, 10:34 AM

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QUOTE(COOLPINK @ Feb 21 2020, 10:32 AM)
their signup contract already stated weight requirement.
so why union hoo haa inhumane?
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"Justice" "basic human rights" "tongkat"
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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Feb 21 2020, 10:34 AM)
this cb union is the one that protek sleeping on job
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Union say

Sleep is basic human right. Which human no need sleep? LEL
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post Feb 21 2020, 10:42 AM

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its her own damn mistakes n blaming airline
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Celaka, gonna be full of landwhales now. How to cuci mata?
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QUOTE(wadepak @ Feb 21 2020, 10:26 AM)


“How will the female cabin crew maintain the airline’s ideal weight if they become pregnant later? Will the airline ground them and fire them, too?” Nufam asked
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I have never seen a pregnant stewardess working onboard before. and isn't it not recommended for pregnant woman after a certain semester to fly before?


btw this nufam really rubbish one
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post Feb 21 2020, 10:44 AM

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Just retain but penalise them by giving lesser bonus for lack of conformity/discipline.

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post Feb 21 2020, 10:44 AM

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18 fail to decrease to 61kg?

that's easy job ever

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Agreed with the judge. 18 months is more than generous amount of time for an employee to adhere to the rules of the job.
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post Feb 21 2020, 10:45 AM

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Aiyo, just have to dehydrate for a day and weigh naked to hit that goal.
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18month to lose 0.7kg pun susah ke?

WTF, I can do that in 2 weeks
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QUOTE(party @ Feb 21 2020, 10:42 AM)
Union say

Sleep is basic human right. Which human no need sleep? LEL
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bodo punya union

ceo come also dare to sleep....wtfark
try do this at private sector
conlanfirm kena warning letter liao doh.gif

no wonder mas rugi
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QUOTE(babykon101 @ Feb 21 2020, 10:32 AM)
160cm 61kg? My lui 158cm 41kg. Gosh I can imagine those 20kg
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QUOTE(alanyuppie @ Feb 21 2020, 10:44 AM)
Just retain  but penalise them by giving lesser bonus for lack of conformity/discipline.
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post Feb 21 2020, 11:09 AM

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QUOTE(United Rulez @ Feb 21 2020, 10:43 AM)
Celaka, gonna be full of landwhales now. How to cuci mata?
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cuci mata one thing
airline will have to spend more on fuel to cater for plus size stewardess laugh.gif
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Aiyo with the the time given also fail to tongkat
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Is it inhumane towards a land whale?
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QUOTE(jackallemily @ Feb 21 2020, 10:43 AM)
I have never seen a pregnant stewardess working onboard before. and isn't it not recommended for pregnant woman after a certain semester to fly before?
btw this nufam really rubbish one
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pregnant go do groundwork i think, my sis relek je at MAS after giving birth to 2 kids long time ago. need get back in shape asap after birth though.
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QUOTE(babykon101 @ Feb 21 2020, 10:32 AM)
160cm 61kg? My lui 158cm 41kg. Gosh I can imagine those 20kg
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This is their own fault. actually its easier to loose weight for landwhale if you do it right.
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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Feb 21 2020, 11:02 AM)
bodo punya union

ceo come also dare to sleep....wtfark
try do this at private sector
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no wonder mas rugi
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CEO then wat? Union is god.
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already give warning couple of times still don't heed then blame others for losing job lol.

Come on la, customer also don't want to look at landwhale on a plane la.
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We need hot young air stewardess! Not landwhale
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post Feb 21 2020, 11:16 AM

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How was the 61kg criterion decided?
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post Feb 21 2020, 11:17 AM

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In another news portal, it was also reported that she was given opportunity to work for another MAS company, Aerodarat, but didn't want it because she wants to lead a flying crew
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Sendiri fail to lose 0.7kg weight wanna blame others pulak. Bangang betul.
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QUOTE(a13solut3 @ Feb 21 2020, 11:12 AM)
pregnant go do groundwork i think, my sis relek je at MAS after giving birth to 2 kids long time ago. need get back in shape asap after birth though.
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that's why. its better for pregnant FA to do groundwork. but this nufam macam fight to keep them on air. pelik

nvm most of the weight is from the baby kan? laugh.gif
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QUOTE(New Klang @ Feb 21 2020, 11:16 AM)
How was the 61kg criterion decided?
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Body Mass Index based on her height, at 160CM she should be 61kg max.
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QUOTE(jackallemily @ Feb 21 2020, 11:19 AM)
that's why. its better for pregnant FA to do groundwork. but this nufam macam fight to keep them on air. pelik

nvm most of the weight is from the baby kan?  laugh.gif
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but i think this case is more toward landwhale given chance to slim down but failed to make it.
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Mana unfair? The company gave her 18 months not 18 hours or 18 days to lose the extra weight. It seems she is not interested in keeping the job.

Every company has a specific requirement for their staffs to follow. Unions are a bunch of useless entities and should be busted. Remember, unions were formed decades ago due to a lack of labor laws.
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More weight, more fuel... Airline pun nak jimat apa...
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QUOTE(a13solut3 @ Feb 21 2020, 11:21 AM)
but i think this case is more toward landwhale given chance to slim down but failed to make it.
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yeah im just referring to nufam statement about will airlines fire pregnant fa

18months is already a long dateline to get into shape. plus already given access to aviation doc. so tadah je la
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Loled

But then again it's the airline industry. Flight attendants have height and weight requirements.

I wonder if they still measure bmi level. Really topkek if they do
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It was reported that Ina Meliesa was dismissed for repeatedly failing to meet the airline’s weight requirement under a weight management programme for 18 months

18 MONTHS ALSO CANNOT LOSE 700G BETTER DON'T WORK LA SOHAI
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QUOTE(nickchk89 @ Feb 21 2020, 10:44 AM)
18 fail to decrease to 61kg?

that's easy job ever

just go to gym everyday
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nah, cut down on 1 sweet drinks/day, dont even need to move that much
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I lost 10kg in 3 months. I say pandan mukak for not putting in effort but relying on shitty unions to keep job
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QUOTE(New Klang @ Feb 21 2020, 11:16 AM)
How was the 61kg criterion decided?
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Have you done medical checkup?

Certain height have max and min weight. Got calculation and chart.
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Apa lanjau ni?


Case landwhare flight attendance kah?


Kah condition of employment already state must maintain weight



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Maybe it is not the weight but muka
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it is a safety hazard when ppl cant move when you block the aisle
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BTW, ayam dont know any airline allow pregnant air stewardess on flight
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this isnt something new. in fact its been around since forever.
you terlebih berat they gip you ample time and chance to correct it
if you dun care then dun cry at outcome la
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QUOTE(incubus_skj @ Feb 21 2020, 11:41 AM)
It was reported that Ina Meliesa was dismissed for repeatedly failing to meet the airline’s weight requirement under a weight management programme for 18 months

18 MONTHS ALSO CANNOT LOSE 700G BETTER DON'T WORK LA SOHAI
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Go sauna can reduce more than that dy
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QUOTE(New Klang @ Feb 21 2020, 11:16 AM)
How was the 61kg criterion decided?
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QUOTE(United Rulez @ Feb 21 2020, 10:43 AM)
Celaka, gonna be full of landwhales now. How to cuci mata?
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QUOTE(ahchat @ Feb 21 2020, 11:01 AM)
18month to lose 0.7kg pun susah ke?

WTF, I can do that in 2 weeks
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QUOTE(New Klang @ Feb 21 2020, 11:16 AM)
How was the 61kg criterion decided?
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Air Midwest Flight 5481
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The investigators determined the crash to have been the result of the combination of two separate issues. After take-off, the plane climbed steeply as a result of higher than calculated weight on the aircraft.

Although the pilots had totaled up the take-off weight of the aircraft before the flight and determined it to be within limits, the plane was actually overloaded and out of balance due to the use of incorrect Federal Aviation Administration (FAA)-approved passenger weight estimates. When checked, the National Transportation Safety Board found that the actual weight of an average passenger was more than 20 pounds (9 kg) greater than estimated. After checking the actual weight of baggage retrieved from the crash site and passengers (based on information from next-of-kin and the medical examiner), it was found that the aircraft was actually 580 pounds (264 kg) above its maximum allowable take-off weight with its center of gravity 5% to the rear of the allowable limit.
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Cannot lose weight, blame others? 18 months...

Nvm.. can join angmoh airlines.. but 160 might be too short hmm...
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If 50kg is the maximum I can still understand. But it’s fricking 61kg.
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160cm, 61.7kg.
Probably not landwhale. But, definitely not eye pleasing. 18months is more than generous amount of time to get fit.

However, her attitude after dismissal shows why she didn't trim down. In her mind, it was never her fault!

Her fault:
1. Overweight, whatever
2. 18months to get fit, not taken
3. Dismissed, still no accountability
4. Lost court case, still no accountability
5. Lost appeal, still no accountability

Difficult person to work with.
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Said by a proclaimed union where everyone in the union is from 1 company

And yet, MH layan them all the time like bodoh.. Hopefully Anthony can give them a warm and tight slap right to the face
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QUOTE(thxxht @ Feb 21 2020, 11:20 AM)
Body Mass Index based on her height, at 160CM she should be 61kg max.
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QUOTE(EBBattlefield @ Feb 21 2020, 01:16 PM)
Air Midwest Flight 5481
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What ??????

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I think the 0.7kg is memang an issue.

BUT.

The company already gave her much much much due notice and even provided an 18-month program.

Still cannot, while other employees can... then it's employee problem oredi.
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job have weight? modelling job? You pay per day RM500?
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Just curious will passenger weight need to be taken in the future? 80 kg add rm20, 100kg add rm 30 like that?
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The max weight is also fatty for her height. They were doing her a favor to help her with her health.
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Fat bitch deserves to be fired
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QUOTE(Phoenix_KL @ Feb 21 2020, 02:48 PM)
job have weight? modelling job? You pay per day RM500?
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No one wants to see a fatso in the plane

That includes the passenger, you
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QUOTE(epsilon_chinwk86 @ Feb 21 2020, 10:38 AM)
Because of this cb union we cant get hot stewardess in flight
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QUOTE(incubus_skj @ Feb 21 2020, 05:52 PM)
No one wants to see a fatso in the plane

That includes the passenger, you
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then airlines must pay premium pay like model pay.
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QUOTE(babykon101 @ Feb 21 2020, 10:32 AM)
160cm 61kg? My lui 158cm 41kg. Gosh I can imagine those 20kg
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The 20kg in the nen nen.
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QUOTE(New Klang @ Feb 21 2020, 02:36 PM)
What ??????
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Maybe she just do boobs job that why heavier.

Body already slim.

That's why she sue MAS la.
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This is a case of u give them an inch their take a mile, soon you’ll see all flight attendants as far as the airplane aisle
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Overweight jangan lah jadi stewardess

Seksa penumpang
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Overweight jangan lah jadi stewardess

Seksa penumpang
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18 months. So much time.
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post Feb 21 2020, 07:39 PM

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QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ Feb 21 2020, 02:43 PM)
I think the 0.7kg is memang an issue.

BUT.

The company already gave her much much much due notice and even provided an 18-month program.

Still cannot, while other employees can... then it's employee problem oredi.
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It really depends on her weight at the start of the 18 months. If she's already lost like 20kg then kasi chan la. That 700g is like within daily fluctuation.
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post Feb 21 2020, 07:43 PM

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A limit is there for a reason

Inb4 speed limit you only over by 7kph, kasi chan la

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In my experience, management will only follow the book very strict towards problematic staff. Normally, just little things will close 1 eye if the staff got contribute in the company.

Looking at how that person even fail/refuse to los such small weight even after given a long time to do so, i suspect that ex staff have issues with management.
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QUOTE(KLthinker91 @ Feb 21 2020, 07:43 PM)
A limit is there for a reason

Inb4 speed limit you only over by 7kph, kasi chan la
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Memang pun. Have you heard of anyone getting speed tickets for going 7kph over the limit here? You can challenge them to provide proof of calibration for the equipment in these kind of borderline cases. Moreover this is about a person's body weight which fluctuates even over the course of a day. Try measuring yourself a few times during the day.

QUOTE(silent_stalker @ Feb 21 2020, 07:44 PM)
In my experience, management will only follow the book very strict towards problematic staff. Normally, just little things will close 1 eye if the staff got contribute in the company.

Looking at how that person even fail/refuse to los such small weight even after given a long time to do so, i suspect that ex staff have issues with management.
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It was 0.7kg over at the last weigh-in. She was not given 18 months to lose 0.7kg. Her original weight was not mentioned. But you're right about the strict towards problematic staff part.
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QUOTE(tbcheese @ Feb 21 2020, 07:39 PM)
It really depends on her weight at the start of the 18 months. If she's already lost like 20kg then kasi chan la. That 700g is like within daily fluctuation.
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Of course we're not made to know the exact facts.

But she knew it 18 months in advance, didn't achieve the company's requirements - which was applied across the board.

It's cruel, yes.

Discriminatory? no.

It's a business. not a charity.
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QUOTE(tbcheese @ Feb 21 2020, 08:01 PM)
Memang pun. Have you heard of anyone getting speed tickets for going 7kph over the limit here? You can challenge them to provide proof of calibration for the equipment in these kind of borderline cases. Moreover this is about a person's body weight which fluctuates even over the course of a day. Try measuring yourself a few times during the day.
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Yeah I know, if she pangsai I bet she would lose at least a pound, not sure about 2 pounds tongue.gif but I'm sure she already did

In Malaysia PDRM don't because of the margin you mention; in other countries, they are that strict.

My point is that if you're getting a speed ticket for going +7kph, chances are you were going 17kph or 27kph. We all know there's a margin of about 10-20kph, and if you're getting a speed ticket you already busted the built-in margin and went into absolutely-do-not-enter territory.

For this case, probably 61kg is beyond the built-in margin already. Probably by the time you reach like 55kg you're supposed to start paying major attention

That being said I think they should switch to a BMI measurement instead. I dunno.
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160cm should limit 55
180cm only can 60kg


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18 months also fail to reduce 0.7kg, facepalm.jpg

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QUOTE(tbcheese @ Feb 21 2020, 08:01 PM)
Memang pun. Have you heard of anyone getting speed tickets for going 7kph over the limit here? You can challenge them to provide proof of calibration for the equipment in these kind of borderline cases. Moreover this is about a person's body weight which fluctuates even over the course of a day. Try measuring yourself a few times during the day.
It was 0.7kg over at the last weigh-in. She was not given 18 months to lose 0.7kg. Her original weight was not mentioned. But you're right about the strict towards problematic staff part.
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Her weight was 61.7kg at the last official weigh-in on April 10, 2017.

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Said by a proclaimed union where everyone in the union is from 1 company

And yet, MH layan them all the time like bodoh.. Hopefully Anthony can give them a warm and tight slap right to the face
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I think this kind of case is not under Anthony. Is consider human resource stuff already. Under Kulasegaran. Tht minister also lawyer. See how la
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QUOTE(k!nex @ Feb 21 2020, 08:57 PM)
I think this kind of case is not under Anthony. Is consider human resource stuff already. Under Kulasegaran. Tht minister also lawyer. See how la
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yeah, but joker said want to bring to anthony also ma.. between these 2 i think anthony can deliver better, lol
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QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ Feb 21 2020, 08:11 PM)
Of course we're not made to know the exact facts.

But she knew it 18 months in advance, didn't achieve the company's requirements - which was applied across the board.

It's cruel, yes.

Discriminatory? no.

It's a business. not a charity.
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It's not a charity but the effort put into it and her performance would've been considered as well. When it's within daily body weight fluctuation and given how our labour laws side with the employee, pushing it through is just asking for trouble unless they have other facts to back them.

QUOTE(KLthinker91 @ Feb 21 2020, 08:31 PM)
Yeah I know, if she pangsai I bet she would lose at least a pound, not sure about 2 pounds tongue.gif but I'm sure she already did

In Malaysia PDRM don't because of the margin you mention; in other countries, they are that strict.

My point is that if you're getting a speed ticket for going +7kph, chances are you were going 17kph or 27kph. We all know there's a margin of about 10-20kph, and if you're getting a speed ticket you already busted the built-in margin and went into absolutely-do-not-enter territory.

For this case, probably 61kg is beyond the built-in margin already. Probably by the time you reach like 55kg you're supposed to start paying major attention

That being said I think they should switch to a BMI measurement instead. I dunno.
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Yeah so there has to be proof of calibration. Even anal Singapore has a 10kph tolerance. I'm not really sure but I thought I saw some other early commenters saying it was based on BMI. tbh, if management saw her as someone worth keeping, they would've considered how much effort she put in to lose the weight and give some leeway. Maybe ground her for another period to lose the 700grams.

QUOTE(nuvi @ Feb 21 2020, 08:48 PM)
Her weight was 61.7kg at the last official weigh-in on April 10, 2017.
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And your point is?

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Imagine that 0.7 kg can tilt the center of gravity on the plane yo


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Imagine that 0.7 kg can tilt the center of gravity on the plane yo
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The investigators determined the crash to have been the result of the combination of two separate issues. After take-off, the plane climbed steeply as a result of higher than calculated weight on the aircraft.

Although the pilots had totaled up the take-off weight of the aircraft before the flight and determined it to be within limits, the plane was actually overloaded and out of balance due to the use of incorrect Federal Aviation Administration (FAA)-approved passenger weight estimates. When checked, the National Transportation Safety Board found that the actual weight of an average passenger was more than 20 pounds (9 kg) greater than estimated. After checking the actual weight of baggage retrieved from the crash site and passengers (based on information from next-of-kin and the medical examiner), it was found that the aircraft was actually 580 pounds (264 kg) above its maximum allowable take-off weight with its center of gravity 5% to the rear of the allowable limit.

 

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