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 Vaccine: The good, the Bad and the Ugly

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Zentel
post Feb 15 2020, 10:30 PM

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QUOTE(smsid @ Feb 15 2020, 10:00 PM)
You have just proove my point, that there is good teacher and bad ones, same as vaccine.

Stop patronizing, not all vaccine does miracle, if it is, go and get your shots and stop forcing it to others. Not everyone share your optimisim.
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Yeah. But education is compulsory in Malaysia. If you don't give your children education you will be prosecuted.

Go complain to government.
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post Feb 15 2020, 10:33 PM

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QUOTE(smsid @ Feb 15 2020, 10:22 PM)
That is a multi million dollar question, but none is willing to pursue it because it is bad for business.

I'm not here to educate people about health, it is a complex subject, which is why doctor spend more than ten years to study and apply license to practise.

Not everything work as advertise, so keep an open mind.
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Right..

So basically its a conspiracy theory thread.. Got it

Will wear my tinfoil cap now
TSsmsid
post Feb 15 2020, 10:36 PM

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QUOTE(Zentel @ Feb 15 2020, 10:30 PM)
Yeah. But education is compulsory in Malaysia. If you don't give your children education you will be prosecuted.

Go complain to government.
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Do you know what happen to teacher if they were caught to abuse children, it goes really bad right? Everyone is accountable for their action, I have no problem with it.
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post Feb 15 2020, 10:42 PM

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QUOTE(smsid @ Feb 15 2020, 10:03 PM)
Are any of those thing are being enforced to the mass and deny them service if don't comply? No right?
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I'm not aware that vaccine is enforced now.

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post Feb 15 2020, 10:42 PM

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QUOTE(gladfly @ Feb 15 2020, 10:33 PM)
Right..

So basically its a conspiracy theory thread.. Got it

Will wear my tinfoil cap now
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You have the right to think it as such if you wish, a great way to avoid any meaningful debate or critical thinking at your end, good job.
Zentel
post Feb 15 2020, 10:45 PM

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QUOTE(smsid @ Feb 15 2020, 10:36 PM)
Do you know what happen to teacher if they were caught to abuse children, it goes really bad right? Everyone is accountable for their action, I have no problem with it.
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The same for vaccines. If they are bad, the manufacturers will be prosecuted. And there are such cases against big pharma.

So you should be fine with them too
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post Feb 15 2020, 10:50 PM

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QUOTE(Zentel @ Feb 15 2020, 10:45 PM)
The same for vaccines. If they are bad, the manufacturers will be prosecuted. And there are such cases againPst big pharma.

So you should be fine with them too
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Against a multi-billion dollar company with deep pocket? Tough luck.
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post Feb 15 2020, 10:58 PM

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QUOTE(smsid @ Feb 15 2020, 10:50 PM)
Against a multi-billion dollar company with deep pocket? Tough luck.
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Just Google.

Big pharma is not one company. They have competition.

Like samseng Vs epal. Multi billion dollar company.

Education corrupt, you want to fight with multi billion earning government of a country? Same. Good luck
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post Feb 15 2020, 11:00 PM

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ts got polio?
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post Feb 15 2020, 11:08 PM

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QUOTE(smsid @ Feb 15 2020, 10:42 PM)
You have the right to think it as such if you wish, a great way to avoid any meaningful debate or critical thinking at your end, good job.
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Touché

Its meaningless when you cant even tske a stand..

To vax ir not to vax thst is the question

And then stand by your belief.. Uphold the principle

None of this bullshit.. Some vax good some bad.. We got choice respect our choice.. But wtf choices you making

How to debate when cant even make mind up on the choices of vax.. 😂

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post Feb 15 2020, 11:08 PM

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QUOTE(Zentel @ Feb 15 2020, 10:58 PM)
Just Google.

Big pharma is not one company. They have competition.

Like samseng Vs epal. Multi billion dollar company.

Education corrupt, you want to fight with multi billion earning government of a country? Same. Good luck
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Competition is just an illusion, behind closed door everyone is good friend, more profits to be made that way. Like our atuk, atuk dah tua.
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post Feb 15 2020, 11:11 PM

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TS is like, the bridge have 0.0000001% of crumbling when i cross it.
Better swim in the river.

everyone who have some sort of intellect would know everything have good and bad, true and false, real and fake.

but no, TS have to use vaccine as example when TS can use movies as the example.

there are good movies, bad movies and the ugly movies.

i have to say good bait and have fun
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post Feb 15 2020, 11:14 PM

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post Feb 15 2020, 11:17 PM

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QUOTE(gladfly @ Feb 15 2020, 11:08 PM)
Touché

Its meaningless when you cant even tske a stand..

To vax ir not to vax thst is the question

And then stand by your belief.. Uphold the principle

None of this bullshit.. Some vax good some bad.. We got choice respect our choice.. But wtf choices you making

How to debate when cant even make mind up on the choices of vax.. 😂
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Why must we place ourself at one extreme side? Left? Right? Anti? Pro? Why not the middle?

I got bitten by a dog few years back, my doctor suggest me to get a tetanus shot, which I did.

So I'm not completely againts it, just that the urge to annoy people is something that I couldn't pass.
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post Feb 15 2020, 11:17 PM

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QUOTE(smsid @ Feb 15 2020, 11:08 PM)
Competition is just an illusion, behind closed door everyone is good friend, more profits to be made that way. Like our atuk, atuk dah tua.
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Ok with this answer you win liao lor

Anything is possible argument..

Might as well argue the world is flat
Zentel
post Feb 15 2020, 11:20 PM

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QUOTE(smsid @ Feb 15 2020, 11:08 PM)
Competition is just an illusion, behind closed door everyone is good friend, more profits to be made that way. Like our atuk, atuk dah tua.
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Okay. Everything is an illusion.
Police and villain also good friend behind closed doors. Why force the law on us? The courts are corrupt.

Our parents behind us say we are a disappointment. Don't force us to love them.

Religious leaders are corrupt. Don't force us to go sembahyang.
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post Feb 15 2020, 11:22 PM

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QUOTE(smsid @ Feb 15 2020, 11:17 PM)
Why must we place ourself at one extreme side? Left? Right? Anti? Pro? Why not the middle?

I got bitten by a dog few years back, my doctor suggest me to get a tetanus shot, which I did.

So I'm not completely againts it, just that the urge to annoy people is something that I couldn't pass.
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Kek my point exactly

Vax like tb mmr polio are complusory as the effects are life threatening

Vax like tetanus Hpv chicken pox or flu etc are discretionary..

Hence the argument thay one has no choice is not right

Got choices wat.. Just smart ppl will vac the essential.. 😂
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post Feb 15 2020, 11:24 PM

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QUOTE(Chobits @ Feb 15 2020, 11:11 PM)
TS is like, the bridge have 0.0000001% of crumbling when i cross it.
Better swim in the river.

everyone who have some sort of intellect would know everything have good and bad, true and false, real and fake.

but no, TS have to use vaccine as example when TS can use movies as the example.

there are good movies, bad movies and the ugly movies.

i have to say good bait and have fun
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I was not aware having discussions about vaccine was frown upon, I thought those only applies to race and religion topic.
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post Feb 15 2020, 11:38 PM

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QUOTE(smsid @ Feb 15 2020, 10:00 PM)
You have just proove my point, that there is good teacher and bad ones, same as vaccine.

Stop patronizing, not all vaccine does miracle, if it is, go and get your shots and stop forcing it to others. Not everyone share your optimisim.
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You probably don't see the problem with yours above statement.
On the topic of vaccine is not that simple. Earlier on I mention, if you don't agree with taking vaccine, you have to explain with facts. Just like having argument with your spouse, if you argue with your own logic, what do you think your spouse will react? Similarly the science has present the fact that it is vital for vaccine to stop endanger the people around you, but if people choose not to vaccinate simply because they have freedom to choose to and nothing to counter the argument, what do you think makes them? A selfish ignorant person.

On the other hand, supposingly if a person does not take vaccine and it does not affect people around you, then by all means nobody would even care, let alone to force vaccine on them. But I guess you are right, you don't like big company/government forcing us on vaccine and you think the freedom to choose is more important.
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QUOTE(smsid @ Feb 15 2020, 11:24 PM)
I was not aware having discussions about vaccine was frown upon, I thought those only applies to race and religion topic.
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why did u chose vaccine as the topic ? when it could be anything else to discuss ? which can be used to prove your theory of the good,bad and ugly?

because vaccine will trigger em fanboys brows.gif brows.gif brows.gif

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