Nice to have this thread. I hope that things improve for the LGBT community here.

Yes AFAIK, it is not in line with Islamic teaching. But of course, this does not justifies spreading hate towards the community. After all Islam is religion of peace.

But definitely this is not acceptable in Islam. I mean it is hard to justify it when such practice is condemned in Quran.

Exactly why I mentioned that it is well... Haram.

No discrimination from me here.

Just want to understand without offending anyone.

Unless you wanna label these guys from Muslims for Progressive Values as heretics, I guess its best to just agree to disagree.




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There are differing opinions and let's leave it at that.

Homosexualities are sin in Christian too I'm Catholic btw.
Acceptance is still a challenge especially among the fundies but unless you commit major crimes like rape and murder,many don't care much about it actually.

Of course can tegur advice and everything but insinuating hatred is just no no.

Well I have no interest in labelling people.

To me, It is not so much about the term "homosexuality", coz overtime, human can introduce different terms. But what is the substance of it? We know that homosexuality in general is having an interest, sexually, towards similar sex (unless you have different understanding).

So what does quran says about such practice?

I leave this quranic verse here for you to judge. I mean the words itself are quite clear and self-explanatory to me...

"You come to men lustfully instead of women. No, you are a people who cross the limits" [7:81]

Like i said, if we want to focus on terminologies, logically there will be so many terms not mentioned in quran.

Anyway, i know this is not the forum for this discussion. So we can leave it at that.

My only concern is that, saying Islam does not condemn homosexuality... is misleading.

If anyone wants to practice it, its their own choice. And you certainly do not need Islam to agree with your choice. 👌

I agree that this is not the forum for this sort of discussion but let me address a few things...

I'm no expert in Quranic matters but I don't think you're supposed to quote verses in isolation. The verse you're referring to have been refuted by many scholars arguing that the people of Lot were destroyed not because of participation in same-sex acts, but because of various other misdeeds. What's next? You're gonna say we should legalize slavery again? There are many verses about slavery, none of which condemns the practice.

Also, I'm muslim who happens to be gay. So rather than living a double life I'm just gonna be a proud gay muslim now. People are going to keep coming in this thread or PM me personally on their internal conflicts regarding their faith and their sexualities and I'm gonna give them the reassurance that they need based on what I know.

I may not "need" Islam to agree with my choice but it sure seems like you need Islam to justify your homophobia, though.

🇺🇸 Elliot Page Covers Time Magazine, Opens Up About Coming Out As Transgender
Source: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/elliot-page-...5b6f2f91a2c825f

More than three months after his coming out captured global attention, Elliot Page is opening up further about his journey to embracing his authentic self.

The “Juno” and “Umbrella Academy” star sat down with Time for an emotional interview and photo essay unveiled this week, making him the magazine’s first transgender male cover star. He told journalist Katy Steinmetz that reactions to his announcement have been widely mixed, but that “letting myself fully become who I am” has been worth the scrutiny he has had to endure.

“What I was anticipating was a lot of support and love and a massive amount of hatred and transphobia,” Page explained. “That’s essentially what happened.”

Still, at a time when hate crimes against transgender people and transphobic rhetoric are on the rise, the 34-year-old felt a deep responsibility to serve as a visible advocate for that community.

“My privilege has allowed me to have resources to get through and to be where I am today, and of course I want to use that privilege and platform to help in the ways I can,” he added. “Extremely influential people are spreading these myths and damaging rhetoric — every day you’re seeing our existence debated. Transgender people are so very real.”

Page also touched on his recent divorce from wife Emma Portner ― the couple actually separated last summer but only formalized the split in January ― as well as how his mother, the daughter of a minister, reacted to her son’s gender identity.

The actor also said his time spent in isolation during the COVID-19 pandemic affected his decision to come out.

“I had a lot of time on my own to really focus on things that I think, in so many ways, unconsciously, I was avoiding,” he said, naming Janet Mock and Laverne Cox as two of his personal inspirations.

One thing Page said he needn’t have been concerned about was the impact that living his truth would have on his career. The actor’s team has seen a renewal of interest in his work, including offers to direct and produce, as well as some “dude roles,” presumably referring to opportunities to play cisgender men.

“I’m really excited to act, now that I’m fully who I am, in this body,” he said. “No matter the challenges and difficult moments of this, nothing amounts to getting to feel how I feel now.”

We can continue in pm if you open to that. If not, its fine.

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🇯🇵 Japanese sake brewery launches One Cup Rainbow in honour of the LGBTQ community
Source: https://soranews24.com/2021/03/19/japanese-...gbtq-community/



New sake will be sold in eight countries around the world.

You’ll find a lot of sake brands throughout Japan, but one that everyone knows is the ubiquitous One Cup by Ozeki. Commonly sold at supermarkets and convenience stores in a convenient glass jar that allows you to enjoy a serving of sake “anytime, anywhere”, the One Cup is cheap but great-tasting, and its makers, Ozeki, have been brewing sake for over 300 years.

Constantly evolving to meet the needs of the market, Ozeki describes itself as “a pioneer striving to fulfil the needs of its customers with new sakes“. This trailblazing spirit has led them to their latest release, a special edition called One Cup Rainbow, which comes with the tagline “We Celebrate Diversity“.

Ozeki says the new sake was created in response to proposals from young local employees and strong requests from overseas customers. Ozeki has been producing sake in the United States for 42 years, after becoming the first Japanese manufacturer to break into the market there when it set up a factory in California in 1979, and this has allowed them to combine tradition with the needs of the international market in an innovative way.

The One Cup Rainbow features six colours of the rainbow flag, with red resembling life, orange resembling healing, yellow for sunlight, green for nature, indigo for serenity and violet representing spirit.

Ozeki isn’t just aiming to promote diversity with the new product–they’ve set up a number of in-house initiatives to improve workplaces within the company as well. In 1996, they abolished the gender checkbox on job application forms for new graduate recruits–a big move in Japan, where gender still plays a big part on forms–and in 2008 they established an in-house consultation service to help prevent harassment in the workplace.

Last year, they implemented even more initiatives to help safeguard employees, by:

• Revising harassment prevention regulations to specify harassment and behaviour on the grounds of sexual orientation and self-identification as prohibited acts
• Providing training to promote understanding of LGBTQ matters for managers involved in personnel and general affairs operations
• Setting up LGBTQ E-learning initiatives for employees of domestic business companies

Japan is often cited as one of the countries where the LGBTQ community still has a long way to go to reach the levels of recognition achieved in other countries, so it’s heartening to see a centuries-old sake company placing such importance on promoting diversity.

The One Cup Rainbow was initially made in limited quantities for release in eight countries, with plans to expand into other areas in future, but stocks have already sold out during pre-sales with wholesalers. Given the demand for the new product within Japan, Ozeki was able to release a special batch for sale within the country, which will go on sale in time for Pride Month in June.

While customers in the Oceania region were able to enjoy the new sake from January, sake fans in the U.S. and Europe will have to wait until May to get a taste of the rainbow. Thankfully, the company says they still plan to broaden their distribution areas in future, which is a fitting plan for a product celebrating diversity and inclusivity.

Here’s hoping they eventually broaden distribution for their sake-scented incense sticks and tiny gacha toy collection too.

🇺🇸 Soldier Walks in Surprising His Partner While They Were Video Chatting
Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cw7NZCSpGpY


Just sharing a random video recommended to me on Youtube. So unusual to see kids running around not even caring. Brothers, sisters, parents all being part of this lovely moment.

🇦🇷 In Pope’s homeland, ex-priest leaves church over gay unions
Source: https://apnews.com/article/argentina-priest...93e4d353f8e95b2



BUENOS AIRES, Argentina (AP) — A former priest and LGBTQ activist who has blessed same-sex unions in Pope Francis’ home country, Argentina, is leaving the Roman Catholic Church after the Vatican issued a pronouncement this week that priests may not perform such blessings.

Andrés Gioeni delivered a letter disavowing his faith to the bishopric in a Buenos Aires suburb on Wednesday, the anniversary of his ordination as a priest in 2000 and two days after the declaration from the Holy See.

“I do not want to continue being an accomplice to this institution, because I realize the harm they are doing to people. I am not renouncing my faith in God but rather I am renouncing a role and a rite,” said Gioeni, 49.

He spoke in an interview with The Associated Press at the home he shares with his husband, 50-year-old Luis Iarocci, and their three dogs, a few blocks from the cathedral in San Isidro north of the capital.

Like other LGBTQ Catholics, Gioeni was shocked by Monday’s proclamation, which argued that clergy members cannot bless same-sex unions on the grounds that they are not part of the divine plan and God “cannot bless sin.”

The Vatican says LGBTQ people should be treated with dignity and respect, but that gay sex is “intrinsically disordered” and same-sex unions are sinful.

The declaration from the Holy See’s orthodoxy office, the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, was authorized by Francis, who prior to assuming the papacy supported legal protection for gay people in civil unions in the country as Cardinal Jorge Mario Bergoglio, archbishop of Buenos Aires.

“There is no mention in any book (of the Bible) of consensual love between two people of the same sex and God telling them no,” said Gioeni, who has blessed at least four such unions.

Born in Mendoza province some 600 miles (1,000 kilometers) west of Buenos Aires, Gioeni pursued a religious vocation as a young man despite being tormented by doubts about his sexuality. He even “outed” to his superiors three fellow seminarians who had confessed attraction to him.

“All throughout seminary I was terribly homophobic,” Gioeni said. “It was a defense.”

After ordination he rose quickly in the provincial church, while secretly exploring chatrooms for the local gay community. He had his first sexual encounter with another man, broke it off to continue the priesthood, but then saw the man again. Gioeni told the bishop he needed to leave.

The church did not offer him psychological help, just a room next to the organ of the Buenos Aires cathedral where he was to confront his supposed crisis of faith.

“That was my descent into hell. There I realized that I was considered like the Hunchback of Notre Dame — a defective being who could not go out into the world because he would be criticized and singled out,” Gioeni recalled.

Gioeni’s superiors became aware of his sexual identity in 2003, when he appeared nude on the cover of a gay magazine, and barred him from exercising priestly ministry.

He studied acting and worked as a waiter in a disco, where he met Iarocci. Together for 17 years now, they wed after Argentina became the first Latin American nation to legalize same-sex marriage in 2010.

In recent years Gioeni has become an LGBTQ activist lobbying for a more open Catholic Church.

Severing formal ties with the institution doesn’t change his faith in God, he said.

“I continue believing in God and He will be my God. In that, my spirituality is unchanged,” Gioeni said. “I no longer have a label. ‘What religion are you?’ I believe in God.”




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🇮🇳 ‘The best cops’: Indian state recruits its first transgender police officers
Source: theguardian.com/global-development/2021/mar/18/the-best-cops-indian-state-recruits-its-first-transgender-police-officers-chhattisgarh



The 13 new constables have overcome society’s prejudice to win a place at Chhattisgarh’s training academy

The top police officer in Chhattisgarh state, Durgesh Awasthi, has nothing but praise for his new recruits. He suspects, he says, some of them will prove to be “the best cops” the force has ever enlisted.

“They are sensitive, have a high emotional quotient and know not just how the other half lives but what it’s like being on the other side of the law,” said Awasthi.

This month Chhattisgarh became the first Indian state to welcome a cohort of transgender people into its police training college after 13 qualified for the course.

Awasthi had been working with Vidya Rajput, 43, a community leader in the state capital Raipur, to help the force with trans awareness when Rajput decided to push for further progress, remembering her own childhood impression of police officers.

“For me they were godlike figures, the people everyone turned to if they were in any trouble. They were reassuring figures, respected by the public. I wondered why we couldn’t join them and prove that we could be useful citizens too,” she said.

Too old to qualify herself, Rajput mobilised the trans community in Raipur, and 27 took up the challenge.

For the written exam, they studied “like fiends” until 2am for months. Preparing for the physical fitness test was even harder. “Very few of us had any interest in sports. We’re just not keen. The applicants had no sports clothes or trainers,” said Rajput.

The state government stepped in to provide clothing, but the first few weeks at the training ground, where – along with more than 100 other applicants – they were put through their physical paces, were not easy.

“Our bodies didn’t know what had hit them. We had never done any physical exercise. Our joints were swollen and bruised and we had injuries from falling. It was very difficult but Rajput ma’am wouldn’t let us give up,” said new recruit Tanushree Sahu, 25.

The trans recruits had to undergo their training while coping with the stresses of their everyday lives: uncertain income, parental beatings, landlord evictions and harassment. “I was proud of them. You have to realise their lives have been nothing but negativity, isolation and loneliness and suddenly they have to summon up the emotional reserves to make a go of this and they did it,” said Rajput.

When the results were announced and 13 of the 27 trans applicants heard they would be going to the police training academy, there was a sense of euphoria. “I was surprised, but delighted they had made it,” said Awasthi.

Ever since India’s supreme court 2014 ruling, which overturned colonial-era laws used to criminalise LGBTQ+ people and recognised trans people, or “hijras”, as a “third gender enjoying the same constitutional rights and freedoms as other citizens”, many have felt more positive about their place in society.

But progress has been slow, with trans people still facing stigma and harassment, including from police.

Many are still forced to survive on scraps earned from begging, or from dancing at weddings, but some have managed to find mainstream work.

One high-profile recent example is Dr Aqsa Shaikh, a community medicine specialist, who heads the Covid vaccination campaign at Hamdard Institute of Medical Sciences and Research in Delhi.

While there is a smattering of success stories across India, some states are more progressive than others in policies relating to trans people, and Chhattisgarh has emerged as a leader.

The city of Raigarh elected India’s first trans mayor, Madhu Bai Kinnar, in 2015. Another trans woman, Veena Sendre, was chosen as Miss Chhattisgarh 2018. A hospital in Raipur has dedicated times for trans patients, so they can visit without any fear of hostility.

Trans people becoming police constables – from social outcasts to pillars of society – is a journey that has delighted new recruit Sahu. As someone who never used to leave the house without covering her head with a scarf, she feels her life has come full circle.

“I can’t believe that I am going to throw away my scarf for a police uniform,” she said. “It’s something I can’t get my head around.”

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🇯🇵 Opinion: Japan’s groundbreaking marriage equality ruling paves the way for change
Source: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/202...quality-change/



Makiko Terahara is representative director of Marriage for All Japan, an organization that campaigns for marriage equality, and co-chair of the Tokyo defense team for the same-sex marriage case.

In 2019, the first lawsuits in Japan were filed in five district courts directly challenging the constitutional violation of not recognizing same-sex marriages. On Wednesday, the Sapporo District Court ruled that the current law, which does not recognize same-sex marriage, is unconstitutiona because it violates the principle of equality stipulated in Article 14 of the Japanese constitution.

This is the first ruling on same-sex marriage in Japan — and it is groundbreaking.

The decision is the culmination of years of work by many individuals. Our organization, Marriage for All Japan, was founded in January 2019 to achieve marriage equality. Our members include lawyers such as myself, as well as others. Almost all of us voluntarily work without compensation, and most of the members have been working for the protection of LGBTQ rights for more than 10 years.

The courts are one of several venues in which we have been pushing for change. We also lobby members of the Diet and work to raise public awareness. That work has slowly brought about change: In the past two years, about 70,000 people have signed our campaign calling for the legalization of same-sex marriage, 147 companies have expressed their support for marriage equality and 80 organizations throughout Japan have endorsed our activities. More members of the Diet have also supported our efforts.

We believe all of this work has been directly or indirectly reflected in the Sapporo ruling. We have received messages from quite a few people saying, “This ruling has given me the courage to live.” Following the ruling, the national newspapers have all covered same-sex marriage, and momentum is building.

There are three reasons the Sapporo ruling is particularly noteworthy.

The first is that it set very strict standards of review. The Sapporo ruling states that “sexual orientation is a personal characteristic that cannot be changed by the will of the individual, and in that sense it is similar to race or gender. Therefore, whether or not a distinction based on such a matter has a rational basis must be carefully examined to determine whether or not it is truly an unavoidable distinction.”

Second, the decision was made by going back to the purpose and essence of marriage. The government argued that “marriage is for heterosexual couples because the purpose of marriage is to bear and raise children.” The Sapporo ruling, on the other hand, states that “the protection of a couple’s common life itself, with or without children, is also an important purpose of marriage” — an important clarification.

Third, the Sapporo ruling affirmed that the majority’s understanding or acceptance was not a requirement. At the same time, the court made clear that the transformation of the traditional view of the family cannot be a reason for not recognizing same-sex marriages.

There is no doubt that the Sapporo ruling will have a positive impact on the other lawsuits still in progress in four district courts; if other courts are to rule that the current law does not violate the Constitution, they will need to overcome the theory of the Sapporo decision.

Yet the team behind the Sapporo lawsuit has already announced their intention to appeal. This is because the Sapporo ruling did not recognize the current law as infringing on freedom of marriage under Article 24 of the constitution. We believe that the failure to recognize same-sex marriage is a violation, not just of the principle of equality, but also of freedom of marriage.

No matter what kind of decision is made by the district courts, either the government or the plaintiffs will file an appeal, and the final decision will be made by the Supreme Court. We expect this to happen by the end of 2023.

But the Diet should take the Sapporo ruling as a sign that it has a responsibility to promptly amend the law. Article 99 of the constitution stipulates that members of the Diet have a duty to respect the constitution. The Diet does not have to wait for a Supreme Court decision to take action for what is right.

On Jan. 18, Ikuo Sato, one of the plaintiffs in the Tokyo lawsuit, passed away from a brain hemorrhage. He had said, “When I die, I want to hold the hand of my partner, who became my legal spouse, and say that I was happy.” But his wish was not fulfilled.

At this very moment, there are people who are unable to envision a future because of the lack of recognition of same-sex marriages, and some who are even being driven to suicide. This is an urgent issue that affects everyday lives, as well as a symbolic discrimination.

There is no doubt that the recognition of same-sex marriages will be a big step toward the fundamental elimination of discrimination and prejudice against the LGBTQ community. This discrimination is the responsibility of the majority who lets it happen — and it is the majority that needs to change.

🌎 ‘I don’t want sex with anyone’: the growing asexuality movement



Yasmin Benoit realised she was asexual around the time her peers in Reading figured out they weren’t. “Everyone seems pretty asexual until puberty hits and then they aren’t. But I didn’t feel the same way. I realised something was up,” she recalls.

But when the then-teenager came out as asexual, no one believed her. “They were, like: ‘You don’t look asexual, you’re probably just insecure, or you must have got molested or you must be gay… Maybe you’re a psychopath and can’t form proper connections with people.’”

Everyone had a theory about what was “wrong” with Benoit; no one accepted the simple fact that, by nature, she didn’t feel sexual attraction towards others. And she’s not alone. Today, as well as being a fashion model, the poised 24-year-old is the world’s most prominent activist for asexuality, an orientation estimated to apply to 1% of the global population, although some think the number is higher.

“I don’t want to have sex with anybody[ and I probably won’t ever have sex,” says Benoit over Zoom, although she does explain that the key point here is sexual relations with others: she does masturbate.

Benoit is determined to ensure other asexual (or “ace”) people don’t feel broken or alone in a world in which lust and desire pulsate through our entire culture. “Our society is increasingly hyper-sexualised,” she says, “and that can make it particularly alienating for asexual people who don’t have those feelings, or don’t want to live that life.”

The asexuality movement is young and fast-growing, and it recently received a notable boost. Last September saw the release of Ace, a critically acclaimed book by asexual journalist Angela Chen. It illuminates the myriad shades of asexuality via a series of real-life profiles. “Instead of getting bogged down in definitions, people can read those stories and think: does that resonate with my experience?” says Chen, 29, who is based in Brooklyn.

For too long such experiences have not been acknowledged: asexuality has sometimes been dubbed the “forgotten” or “invisible” orientation owing to its lack of public prominence. Until recently it was deemed a medical issue by the US’s Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders – which added an exception in 2013 to state that asexuals do not have a desire disorder – and many continue to erroneously dismiss it as an affliction.

It has also been labelled “the world’s first internet orientation,” implying that people who feel this way have only existed since the advent of the internet – and suggesting it’s a fad embraced by pink-haired teens on Tumblr, but not applicable in the real world. Nonetheless, the internet has been an anchor for the modern asexuality crusade, which began in 2000 when David Jay, a San Francisco college student, started a website to connect with others (when he’d looked up “asexuality” all he’d found were “papers about plant biology and amoebas”, he says). It attracted thousands of hits and he then launched the Asexual Visibility and Education Network (AVEN), which remains the biggest asexuality platform, with 120,000 members today. Tight-knit communities have since sprouted on Twitter, Tumblr, Reddit and Discord, and have flourished offline, too.

Jay has been joined by a spirited collective of younger activists who give talks, write books, host podcasts and run YouTube channels. They’re showing it’s possible to live a fulfilling life without sex and, although they’re a small minority, they have plenty to teach the rest of society. Such as about how allosexuals – people who do experience sexual attraction – conflate sex, romance and intimacy, yet could benefit from teasing these things apart. Or about how sexual partnerships are automatically ranked higher in the social totem pole than platonic ones – a sentiment captured in phrases such as “just friends” and enshrined in health-insurance and other laws – even though friendships can be more meaningful.

Read more @ https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/20...uality-movement

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although i am not gay, i dont see anything wrong with gay ppl (or lesbian) loving their other half.

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🇬🇧 Trans woman living ‘double life’ at work amid fear of discrimination
Source: https://metro.co.uk/2021/03/22/two-thirds-o...t-work-14286952



A trans woman has shared how she is living a ‘double life’ following the news that 13% more trans employees are hiding their authentic self at work than in 2016.

A Totaljobs survey of more than 400 trans employees, made in collaboration with YouGov and charity Sparkle during February 2021, found that 65% of trans people had been forced to conceal their personal status at their workplace – up from 52% five years ago.

Ellen, 57, came out as transgender seven years ago, but still presents as male in her office. She says her company, based in Leeds, does not have any policies for protecting trans employees and she feels certain she will face discrimination from senior members of staff. She told Metro.co.uk: ‘No one at work knows I’m female. I have to be male in the office. It is hard work, it’s draining, I have to change everything about myself.

‘Even the way I speak or the way my nails look – I’m so self-conscious all the time. It’s like splitting myself in two. But I’m afraid that if I reveal I’m transgender there will be a reaction I can’t take back. I know my performance will be viewed differently, as sad as that is. ‘There’s no legal safety net for someone like me. I am sort of living a double life and I know it’s not good for my mental health.

‘I’m so fortunate to have many friends who accept me as I am in the real world, but I’m afraid it’s too late for me to risk my career.’ The Totaljobs study revealed that 32% of trans employees had faced discrimination at work, while more than a quarter had been deadnamed. Around 32% of those asked had experienced bullying or insults, and 30% described others deliberately misusing pronouns when referring to them. Only 33% of trans members of staff said their workplaces had dedicated anti-trans discrimination policies. More than half said their employers don’t offer any training on how to support trans workers.

Over a third also said they were not aware of any official process for them to report discrimination and 35% said they wouldn’t report anti-trans behaviour when it happened. Resultantly, the study found 43% of trans employees said they’d quit because their work environment was unwelcoming. This is 7% higher than in 2016.

Jon Wilson, CEO of Totaljobs, said: ‘‘Having a situation where any employee feels that they have to hide who they are in the workplace, or even decide to leave a role as a consequence of not feeling accepted, is simply wrong. ‘To hear that the number of trans people experiencing this has increased since our last report in 2016, is deeply concerning. As employers, we need to ask serious questions as to what we can do to improve this state of affairs and ensure we’re championing a culture that is inclusive of trans individuals, to ensure they have happier, healthier working lives.

‘I call upon all companies, big or small, to consider the steps they can take across their attraction, recruitment, and retention strategies to remove the barriers faced by trans people. ‘In particular, having a firm stance against anti-trans behaviour or abuse at work is non-negotiable; nobody should have to feel unwelcome or unsafe at work. ‘