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post Feb 2 2020, 12:48 PM, updated 6 months ago

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I ask mechanic which is best German brand Bmw or Mercs
he says Mercs wins hand on

True or not?
For Bmw and Mercs customer experience

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post Feb 2 2020, 12:49 PM

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Of course

Thts why you still see heck alot of W124s on the road
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post Feb 2 2020, 12:50 PM

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It's been a known fact that Mercedes has easier serviceability and cheaper parts.
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post Feb 2 2020, 12:51 PM

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QUOTE(ketupatlazat @ Feb 2 2020, 12:49 PM)
Of course

Thts why you still see heck alot of W124s on the road
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True last time they got many Taxis driver using Mercedes to fetch people also
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post Feb 2 2020, 12:51 PM

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secondhand car better buy Mercedes?
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post Feb 2 2020, 12:52 PM

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QUOTE(ak101ss @ Feb 2 2020, 12:50 PM)
It's been a known fact that Mercedes has easier serviceability and cheaper parts.
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Oh Ok
My family members do owned couple of Merc

But I like BMW
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post Feb 2 2020, 12:52 PM

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QUOTE(ikankering @ Feb 2 2020, 12:51 PM)
secondhand car better buy Mercedes?
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Yup used thinking of buying W205
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post Feb 2 2020, 12:53 PM

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post Feb 2 2020, 12:54 PM

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win in term of what ?

Compare entry sedan 318i vs CLA200
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post Feb 2 2020, 12:54 PM

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QUOTE(ikankering @ Feb 2 2020, 12:51 PM)
secondhand car better buy Mercedes?
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you buy axia enough..wokay?
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post Feb 2 2020, 12:56 PM

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QUOTE(malibuchong @ Feb 2 2020, 12:54 PM)
you buy axia enough..wokay?
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Cannot lah

I enjoy driving alot so I cannot drive Axia

If I drive Axia touge Genting break easily
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QUOTE(wk_edifire @ Feb 2 2020, 12:52 PM)
Oh Ok
My family members do owned couple of Merc

But I like BMW
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No worries, BMW more driver oriented car, MB crazy torque but comfort suspension.
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post Feb 2 2020, 01:00 PM

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QUOTE(ak101ss @ Feb 2 2020, 12:50 PM)
It's been a known fact that Mercedes has easier serviceability and cheaper parts.
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U must be joking

MB parts are blardy expensive. But they last longer

BMW are cheaper but frequently have issues

MB no free service

BMW free service

MB power but BMW is more FUN to drive

BMW has lousy RV because dealers keep throwing prices

MB holds its value well

I driving A45 now so yea i know la

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post Feb 2 2020, 01:01 PM

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in general, BMW focus a lot more on performance.... while Merc more towards comfort.

but both has its own pros n cons ..depends what you are looking at...
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post Feb 2 2020, 01:02 PM

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QUOTE(wk_edifire @ Feb 2 2020, 12:56 PM)
Cannot lah

I enjoy driving alot so I cannot drive Axia

If I drive Axia touge Genting break easily
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i reply to ikankering,

for you,buy whatever you like,wokay?
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post Feb 2 2020, 01:02 PM

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Both will leave u stranded by the roadside while the Lexus drive pass
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post Feb 2 2020, 01:03 PM

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Porsche.
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post Feb 2 2020, 01:04 PM

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QUOTE(qqmeng @ Feb 2 2020, 01:01 PM)
in general, BMW focus a lot more on performance.... while Merc more towards comfort.

but both has its own pros n cons ..depends what you are looking at...
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I like Bmw alot but since my company mechanic advice me to get another Benz

If I buy Bmw I will get E90 until today still better looking than G10
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post Feb 2 2020, 01:05 PM

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QUOTE(Boy96 @ Feb 2 2020, 01:02 PM)
Both will leave u stranded by the roadside while the Lexus drive pass
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Eh... but Lexus LS250 very nice
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post Feb 2 2020, 01:05 PM

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QUOTE(TheBornLoser @ Feb 2 2020, 01:03 PM)
Porsche.
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I saw a Panamera very nice but maintenance cost and roadtax
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post Feb 2 2020, 01:07 PM

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QUOTE(TheBornLoser @ Feb 2 2020, 01:03 PM)
Porsche.
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Maintainence is really the killer man

2 front brake pad + labour on my cayman costs 3k to change
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QUOTE(Boy96 @ Feb 2 2020, 01:02 PM)
Both will leave u stranded by the roadside while the Lexus drive pass
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ah boy,you know very well,but lexus malaysia......no eyes see.....high pricing yet feature all missing......

better get bmw or Mercedes then......
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post Feb 2 2020, 01:08 PM

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QUOTE(wk_edifire @ Feb 2 2020, 01:05 PM)
I saw a Panamera very nice but maintenance cost and roadtax
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Ya.

If I am going to go for a conti, I would make sure I have enough money put aside for 10 years of taxes and maintenance.

That is just me personally....

If non-German car, I would most probably go for a Land Cruiser, Lexus or Volvo. If I really have money to splash, then a Range Rover.
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post Feb 2 2020, 01:08 PM

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Theres a reason the cab in german is mostly merc if not all.

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QUOTE(wk_edifire @ Feb 2 2020, 01:05 PM)
I saw a Panamera very nice but maintenance cost and roadtax
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2 front absorber almost 30k.
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post Feb 2 2020, 01:19 PM

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PAS dont lied.

mersz cheaper maintenance than proton toyota honda.


u question pas?
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post Feb 2 2020, 01:30 PM

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QUOTE(ifourtos @ Feb 2 2020, 01:19 PM)
PAS dont lied.

mersz cheaper maintenance than proton toyota honda.
u question pas?
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No need to question pas.
LGE already approved mercs back in 2013 already.
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post Feb 2 2020, 01:43 PM

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QUOTE(ileys @ Feb 2 2020, 01:30 PM)
No need to question pas.
LGE already approved mercs back in 2013 already.
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post Feb 2 2020, 01:50 PM

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QUOTE(ileys @ Feb 2 2020, 01:30 PM)
No need to question pas.
LGE already approved mercs back in 2013 already.
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Yup now kesian have to use Honda Accord as government car
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post Feb 2 2020, 01:51 PM

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QUOTE(ileys @ Feb 2 2020, 01:30 PM)
No need to question pas.
LGE already approved mercs back in 2013 already.
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2018 is a big downgrade for LGE ride. From Merc to Proton.
Btw, how much does penang CM earns?
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post Feb 2 2020, 02:00 PM

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QUOTE(wk_edifire @ Feb 2 2020, 12:56 PM)
Cannot lah

I enjoy driving alot so I cannot drive Axia

If I drive Axia touge Genting break easily
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Ask this under that ramp this car up the hill la.


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QUOTE(TheBornLoser @ Feb 2 2020, 01:08 PM)
Ya.

If I am going to go for a conti, I would make sure I have enough money put aside for 10 years of taxes and maintenance.

That is just me personally....

If non-German car, I would most probably go for a Land Cruiser, Lexus or Volvo. If I really have money to splash, then a Range Rover.
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Another 10 years to buy a parking space in HK.
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a W213 E Class aircond compressor cost rm6400.00 quote from Naza SC

use this part cost to almost any car for comparison sake
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QUOTE(ClericKilla @ Feb 2 2020, 02:02 PM)
Another 10 years to buy a parking space in HK.
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Well, if I really wanted to own a car in Hong Kong, I would buy an apartment with accompanying parking space. That's the preliminary plan in 3 years time.

But since I have grown to hate driving (I always semi-rage on the roads whenever I am back in Malaysia and stuck in traffic on Jalan Tun Razak, Jalan Ampang or Jalan Klang Lama), I'd rather just cab everywhere I go in Hong Kong. That's what some of the folks I know here do..... everywhere they go, just cab or Uber. They can afford it, and its cheaper than depreciating value and maintenance cost of a car.
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QUOTE(kevin23 @ Feb 2 2020, 01:00 PM)
U must be joking

MB parts are blardy expensive. But they last longer

BMW are cheaper but frequently have issues

MB no free service

BMW free service

MB power but BMW is more FUN to drive

BMW has lousy RV because dealers keep throwing prices

MB holds its value well

I driving A45 now so yea i know la
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I'm talking on a larger range... Since W201 vs E36 era till to-date.

Prices of parts have nothing to do with free service campaigns, they're still expensive. Overall running cost of BMW will still be higher than MB

Enjoy your A45.
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post Feb 2 2020, 05:50 PM

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QUOTE(wk_edifire @ Feb 2 2020, 12:48 PM)
I ask mechanic which is best German brand Bmw or Mercs
he says Mercs wins hand on

True or not?
For Bmw and Mercs customer experience
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may be we put it this way...

Mercs is for the father.
Bmw is for the son


Father is looking for value back.
Son normally is char siew, they like to play play only.


resell value for Mercs is better.
we using car not for life. So, we gonna resell it later. thus, Mercs is better to me. if I got money to buy Mercs lah, i mean. haha.


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post Feb 2 2020, 05:53 PM

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BMW M4 slurppss the exterior

but for interior i prefer merc
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QUOTE(edifgrto @ Feb 2 2020, 05:50 PM)
may be we put it this way...

Mercs is for the father.
Bmw is for the son
Father is looking for value back.
Son normally is char siew, they like to play play only.
resell value for Mercs is better.
we using car not for life. So, we gonna resell it later. thus, Mercs is better to me. if I got money to buy Mercs lah, i mean. haha.
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True I saw a Bmw F30 going for under RM100k
1st owner purchase RM288k
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QUOTE(Gyazo @ Feb 2 2020, 05:53 PM)
BMW M4 slurppss the exterior

but for interior i prefer merc
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W205 lighting very nice

But handling no much better than g30
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post Feb 3 2020, 01:25 AM

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It used to be the case that Mercedes is easy to service as they use mostly Bosch parts.
If it is still the case, or many parts proprietary now?
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QUOTE(wk_edifire @ Feb 3 2020, 01:21 AM)
True I saw a Bmw F30 going for under RM100k
1st owner purchase RM288k
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My neighbor next door, office car f10 520d. Somehow the oil missing ridiculously high. Then scratching sound during driving. Warranty new engine by bmw malaysia.

Straight office purchase merz from w212 e300 to GLE diesel. Generally merz more reliable except than e300 battery price

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QUOTE(wk_edifire @ Feb 2 2020, 12:51 PM)
True last time they got many Taxis driver using Mercedes to fetch people also
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Different era, you can be assured a Mercedes you buy today would not be anywhere near as durable or reliable as a Mercedes from that era.

QUOTE(ShadowR1 @ Feb 2 2020, 01:08 PM)
Theres a reason the cab in german is mostly merc if not all.
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There are just as many Audis, Opels and VWs that are used as taxis in Germany just that often they don't get noticed by outsiders as most are wowed that a Mercedes is used as a taxi. Included in the list are many Fords and Peugeots as well.

Many of those Mercedes used as a taxi are purpose built cars that come with vinyl seats, stripped of all the creature comforts including an automatic gearbox and mostly given an entry level engine tuned for fuel economy and low emissions.
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depends on model though, cant compare like that
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QUOTE(Le8055 @ Feb 3 2020, 03:52 AM)
Different era, you can be assured a Mercedes you buy today would not be anywhere near as durable or reliable as a Mercedes from that era.
There are just as many Audis, Opels and VWs that are used as taxis in Germany just that often they don't get noticed by outsiders as most are wowed that a Mercedes is used as a taxi. Included in the list are many Fords and Peugeots as well.

Many of those Mercedes used as a taxi are purpose built cars that come with vinyl seats, stripped of all the creature comforts including an automatic gearbox and mostly given an entry level engine tuned for fuel economy and low emissions.
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Cant really find many bmw taxis around
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There is a rumour that all the old Mercedes find its way to retire as a taxi in Africa.
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saw myself few passat 2.0 current gen owner from fb group. change exhaust + tune after market, the car can really fly. 275kmh top speed, for a car at rm150k after rebates really make me jealous.
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QUOTE(Revamperz @ Feb 2 2020, 02:03 PM)
a W213 E Class aircond compressor cost rm6400.00 quote from Naza SC

use this part cost to almost any car for comparison sake
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You got a lemon? Why need to pay? W213 should be still within the warranty period.
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QUOTE(kevin23 @ Feb 2 2020, 01:00 PM)
U must be joking

MB parts are blardy expensive. But they last longer

BMW are cheaper but frequently have issues

MB no free service

BMW free service

MB power but BMW is more FUN to drive

BMW has lousy RV because dealers keep throwing prices

MB holds its value well

I driving A45 now so yea i know la
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This haha.

Merc parts and service is damn expensive. But BMW has their frequent problems here and there... 6 year old F10 radiator hose bocor, left door can’t open coz lock jam...lol
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QUOTE(ianrpf @ Feb 3 2020, 09:02 AM)
This haha.

Merc parts and service is damn expensive. But BMW has their frequent problems here and there... 6 year old F10 radiator hose bocor, left door can’t open coz lock jam...lol
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Yup i remembered my a45 major service costs me nearly 4k

Change front brake pads + labour alone already 1.8k
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QUOTE(kevin23 @ Feb 3 2020, 09:04 AM)
Yup i remembered my a45 major service costs me nearly 4k

Change front brake pads + labour alone already 1.8k
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And when you send a BMW in for a routine service, there’s always something that needs to be replaced hahaha. Both got pros and cons. Anyway how’s the A45? Was looking at a recon model.
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QUOTE(ianrpf @ Feb 3 2020, 09:08 AM)
And when you send a BMW in for a routine service, there’s always something that needs to be replaced hahaha. Both got pros and cons. Anyway how’s the A45? Was looking at a recon model.
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Bmw got free service

U send in and u relax . No need pay anything

A45 is a very good car. Could be too powerful for most people


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QUOTE(kevin23 @ Feb 3 2020, 09:12 AM)
Bmw got free service

U send in and u relax . No need pay anything

A45 is a very good car. Could be too powerful for most people
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Good to know. Hopefully can either get a A45 or Golf R by end of this year haha.
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QUOTE(ianrpf @ Feb 3 2020, 09:15 AM)
Good to know. Hopefully can either get a A45 or Golf R by end of this year haha.
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Golf R is less powerful but power delivery is more seamless

A45 is brutal
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QUOTE(kevin23 @ Feb 3 2020, 09:16 AM)
Golf R is less powerful but power delivery is more seamless

A45 is brutal
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Yeah haha the DSG is the main reason. I've driven the VW CC, it's nicer to drive than the 528i F10.

So u chose the A45 over the R?
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Merc better looking than BMw outdated look.
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QUOTE(kkk8787 @ Feb 3 2020, 06:11 AM)
Cant really find many bmw taxis around
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There were many being used in Zurich, mainly 520d versions up until recently when all were brought off the road and replaced with Tesla Model S.
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QUOTE(wk_edifire @ Feb 2 2020, 12:48 PM)
I ask mechanic which is best German brand Bmw or Mercs
he says Mercs wins hand on

True or not?
For Bmw and Mercs customer experience
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as far as im concerned, both will die within the next 10 years. So it doesnt matter. with the upcoming revolusion, stealership networks, ice cars, and government regulations will finally kill these useless ice companies.

anyone holding their cars will be worthless in a few years time.

the company will go bancrupt and there will be no warranty

gg and no re.
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QUOTE(wk_edifire @ Feb 2 2020, 12:56 PM)
Cannot lah

I enjoy driving alot so I cannot drive Axia

If I drive Axia touge Genting break easily
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upgrade turbo and 19in wheels sure stick to road..
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Was comparing E200 and 530e as they were almost same price during the tax break. At the end decided 530e due to much better features, discount besides the tax reduction and more fun to drive.

E200 lack of power, 18 inch rims only, inside look too uncle and it doesn’t even have power boot.
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QUOTE(qqmeng @ Feb 2 2020, 01:01 PM)
in general, BMW focus a lot more on performance.... while Merc more towards comfort.

but both has its own pros n cons ..depends what you are looking at...
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I dun see Mers any comfort now.
All those A, CLA, C, E class with bucket seat.
Previously those E class with big n small eyes, seat still very comfy. Now newer E class seat very hard. Unless S class the seat still comfy.
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For me Bmw is for rich people under 40<

While Merc is for rich people above >40

but but CLS63 all




That ass

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QUOTE(Nachiino Etamay @ Feb 3 2020, 12:22 PM)
as far as im concerned, both will die within the next 10 years. So it doesnt matter. with the upcoming revolusion, stealership networks, ice cars, and government regulations will finally kill these useless ice companies.

anyone holding their cars will be worthless in a few years time.

the company will go bancrupt and there will be no warranty

gg and no re.
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If gov want to implement this I see no harm but
At least reduce cars price first

Then limit the cars to 6 years and after that scrap
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QUOTE(kkkw80 @ Feb 3 2020, 12:40 PM)
Was comparing E200 and 530e as they were almost same price during the tax break. At the end decided 530e due to much better features, discount besides the tax reduction and more fun to drive.

E200 lack of power, 18 inch rims only, inside look too uncle and it doesn’t even have power boot.
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If u brought new buy bmw becoz free service for 5 years
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QUOTE(wk_edifire @ Feb 2 2020, 12:48 PM)
I ask mechanic which is best German brand Bmw or Mercs
he says Mercs wins hand on

True or not?
For Bmw and Mercs customer experience
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have both
both also got own issue lol
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QUOTE(Micozole @ Feb 3 2020, 01:30 PM)
have both
both also got own issue lol
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My family owned w204 very nice no much problem

But I like the E90 or F30 design
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QUOTE(wk_edifire @ Feb 3 2020, 01:32 PM)
My family owned w204 very nice no much problem

But I like the E90 or F30 design
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i still cant get used to the naming style of w204, e90 or f30...everytime also need to gugel and see which it is...

and oh, my problem's referring to older model of c200..

current models so far so good..but all less than 3 yrs
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Merce, never own 1 before, no comment other than the nice interior & outdated exterior.
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I dun see Mers any comfort now.
All those A, CLA, C, E class with bucket seat.
Previously those E class with big n small eyes, seat still very comfy. Now newer E class seat very hard. Unless S class the seat still comfy.
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QUOTE(Micozole @ Feb 3 2020, 01:38 PM)
i still cant get used to the naming style of w204, e90 or f30...everytime also need to gugel and see which it is...

and oh, my problem's referring to older model of c200..

current models so far so good..but all less than 3 yrs
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Oh OK
I used to using the series code already
C200 u mean w203?

Oh so rich all less than 3 years

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I used to using the series code already
C200 u mean w203?

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what model boss?
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Merc is a good brand. When asked, my wife said she wants a CLA. But never specified which model; if I have enough, I plan on buying an AMG CLA45 for her, but I lied, if I did that it would actually be for myself.

Or if I am short in cash, the AMG A35 Sedan. I think I would enjoy the 4Matic.

She doesn't like the 3 series (too big), nor the 1 series (too normal?)
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why no volvo ?
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Volvo brand recognition is not up to BMW/Merc level yet. People who buy volvo still have to explain their purchases laugh.gif at least in Malaysia that is. Just save your breath and get either B or M lah. There are so many models to choose from between them; suitable for all pocket-sizes and taste

If you want sporty, you can go for the A45 AMG or M340i; if you want executive look go for E or 5 Series
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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Feb 3 2020, 09:54 PM)
Volvo brand recognition is not up to BMW/Merc level yet. People who buy volvo still have to explain their purchases  laugh.gif at least in Malaysia that is. Just save your breath and get either B or M lah. There are so many models to choose from between them; suitable for all pocket-sizes and taste

If you want sporty, you can go for the A45 AMG or M340i; if you want executive look go for E or 5 Series
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haha...

i cant afford neither B, M or V
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QUOTE(lyc1982 @ Feb 3 2020, 10:01 PM)
haha...

i cant afford neither B, M or V
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in due time perhaps. I was driving Persona Elegance for 9 years before jumping ship to B. I love every moment that I am in the car. I think it was the purchase of my life, moreso than any houses that I have bought including the house that I would settle down in (DS corner lot)

I am not a car guy, but I drive a lot as a salesman, so I spend a lot of time in my car. I have suffered enough in my trusty Persona Elegance. Now, I am a happy man.
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in due time perhaps. I was driving Persona Elegance for 9 years before jumping ship to B. I love every moment that I am in the car. I think it was  the purchase of my life, moreso than any houses that I have bought including the house that I would settle down in (DS corner lot)

I am not a car guy, but I drive a lot as a salesman, so I spend a lot of time in my car. I have suffered enough in my trusty Persona Elegance. Now, I am a happy man.
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glad to hear that...

hopefully i can own one...

if lucky, maybe porsche cayenne haha
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QUOTE(lyc1982 @ Feb 3 2020, 10:09 PM)
glad to hear that...

hopefully i can own one...

if lucky, maybe porsche cayenne haha
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I may look into 718/911 or m3/m5. Perhaps C43 AMG

The choices are amazing! And all you need is money!
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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Feb 3 2020, 09:33 PM)
Merc is a good brand. When asked, my wife said she wants a CLA. But never specified which model; if I have enough, I plan on buying an AMG CLA45 for her, but I lied, if I did that it would actually be for myself.

Or if I am short in cash, the AMG A35 Sedan. I think I would enjoy the 4Matic.

She doesn't like the 3 series (too big), nor the 1 series (too normal?)
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CLA45 is not suitable for ladies driver because suspension to stiff and loud exhaust

CLA250 is the best but why dun convince your wife C-class
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But I like the new S60 very powerful and save petrol somemore
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in due time perhaps. I was driving Persona Elegance for 9 years before jumping ship to B. I love every moment that I am in the car. I think it was  the purchase of my life, moreso than any houses that I have bought including the house that I would settle down in (DS corner lot)

I am not a car guy, but I drive a lot as a salesman, so I spend a lot of time in my car. I have suffered enough in my trusty Persona Elegance. Now, I am a happy man.
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I like German car handling but too much sensor
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QUOTE(wk_edifire @ Feb 4 2020, 01:25 AM)
CLA45 is not suitable for ladies driver because suspension to stiff and loud exhaust

CLA250 is the best but why dun convince your wife C-class
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I think I would be buying it for me, perhaps the AMG C43? Same price to the CLA45 but a little slower.


QUOTE(wk_edifire @ Feb 4 2020, 01:29 AM)
I like German car handling but too much sensor
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4 or 5 years then off load it.
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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Feb 4 2020, 01:42 AM)
I think I would be buying it for me, perhaps the AMG C43? Same price to the CLA45 but a little slower.
4 or 5 years then off load it.
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C43 is not consider an AMG because the engine is locally assemble

But for why dun u consider GLA45 big enough for family and got 4matic system.
Engine is assemble at Germany and save roadtax yearly


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QUOTE(wk_edifire @ Feb 5 2020, 10:56 AM)
not consider an AMG because the engine is locally assemble
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QUOTE(wk_edifire @ Feb 5 2020, 10:56 AM)
C43 is not consider an AMG because the engine is locally assemble

But for why dun u consider GLA45 big enough for family and got 4matic system.
Engine is assemble at Germany and save roadtax yearly
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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Feb 5 2020, 11:01 AM)
What, first I have heard of this...
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Not sure if the engine is locally assembled (the body might be), but the engine is not handmade so in some circles it's not considered a "true" AMG which supposedly embodies the one man one engine principle, with the engineer who assembled the engine putting their signature on the engine cover...
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QUOTE(KingArthurVI @ Feb 5 2020, 11:09 AM)
Not sure if the engine is locally assembled (the body might be), but the engine is not handmade so in some circles it's not considered a "true" AMG which supposedly embodies the one man one engine principle, with the engineer who assembled the engine putting their signature on the engine cover...
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that sounds a little expensive and superfluous to me...

if one is looking at AMG, the counterpart from Bavaria would be the M. Do "M" purists care about their engines being handcrafted too?

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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Feb 5 2020, 11:19 AM)
that sounds a little expensive and superfluous to me...

if one is looking at AMG, the counterpart from Bavaria would be the M. Do "M" purists care about their engines being handcrafted too?
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Not at all, it's an AMG thing. It's almost like how people don't consider M340i a real "M" and rather just a regular 340i as compared to M3.

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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Feb 5 2020, 11:19 AM)
that sounds a little expensive and superfluous to me...

if one is looking at AMG, the counterpart from Bavaria would be the M. Do "M" purists care about their engines being handcrafted too?
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Actually AMG is no a cheap cars and can be fully customized

So people can afford AMG also can afford additional option like expensive exhaust

Like Mercedes C63 W204 is the last and final 6.3 n.a engine try youtube the sound it can produce
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QUOTE(wk_edifire @ Feb 5 2020, 11:25 AM)
Actually AMG is no a cheap cars and can be fully customized 

So people can afford AMG also can afford additional option like expensive exhaust

Like Mercedes C63 W204 is the last and final 6.3 n.a engine try youtube the sound it can produce
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QUOTE(KingArthurVI @ Feb 5 2020, 11:22 AM)
Not at all, it's an AMG thing. It's almost like how people don't consider M340i a real "M" and rather just a regular 340i as compared to M3.
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That sounds fair, but... well I guess people just want to feel different with their cars... they want to look down from their pedestal and call these lesser models not "true" M or AMG or even "not a true Mercedes, these front-wheel drive cars"

QUOTE(wk_edifire @ Feb 5 2020, 11:25 AM)
Actually AMG is no a cheap cars and can be fully customized 

So people can afford AMG also can afford additional option like expensive exhaust

Like Mercedes C63 W204 is the last and final 6.3 n.a engine try youtube the sound it can produce
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So I guess there are 3 levels of AMG

1. AMG-line
2. AMG (Sold by the dealers)
3. And the AMG with the engines hand-built

Mercedes and BMW are just milking their motorsports divisions. My 330i has a small M3 badge on it... I do not care, I know what my car is, it is quite a long distance from being an M car. I'd be superbly happy with M340i, but at this point itd be a waste to "upgrade" to that... better go full M3 or Porsche
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Merc is for rich unker who want to pretend poor.

BMW is for poor fuckbois who want to pretend rich.
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QUOTE(KingArthurVI @ Feb 5 2020, 11:09 AM)
Not sure if the engine is locally assembled (the body might be), but the engine is not handmade so in some circles it's not considered a "true" AMG which supposedly embodies the one man one engine principle, with the engineer who assembled the engine putting their signature on the engine cover...
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Now I am thinking why BMW suddenly lose it focus on M performance cars?

Like currently M3 model no longer available but replace with M2 and M4

If u want carry track cars performance car u need to buy competition cars

I like wtf???

Last time M3 is already track car d
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QUOTE(fuzzy @ Feb 5 2020, 11:32 AM)
Merc is for rich unker who want to pretend poor.

BMW is for poor fuckbois who want to pretend rich.
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Then Audi?

Porsche ?
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Then Audi?

Porsche ?
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QUOTE(wk_edifire @ Feb 5 2020, 11:32 AM)
Now I am thinking why BMW suddenly lose it focus on M performance cars?

Like currently M3 model no longer available but replace with M2 and M4

If u want carry track cars performance car u need to buy competition cars

I like wtf???

Last time M3 is already track car d
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I think the current M3 car ceased production because it no longer meets emission rules. M2 is definitely in my book a more fun car... but the size makes it impractical for daily usage.
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QUOTE(KingArthurVI @ Feb 5 2020, 11:46 AM)
I think the current M3 car ceased production because it no longer meets emission rules. M2 is definitely in my book a more fun car... but the size makes it impractical for daily usage.
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Yup but m2 is little to small for daily used and big CC

So if got money I will buy GLA45
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Mers got alot of China Spare Parts hence maintenance cheaper.....

BMW need to get ori parts sometimes..... hence maintenance expensive like fuck.......

Both cars is good for driving long distance as in interstate as it is stable even at 180-200 km/hr.....

If driving in City only, no need buy so big n bulky cars.....fuel consumption also waste resources only....
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QUOTE(posmaster @ Feb 6 2020, 12:06 PM)
Mers got alot of China Spare Parts hence maintenance cheaper.....

BMW need to get ori parts sometimes..... hence maintenance expensive like fuck.......

Both cars is good for driving long distance as in interstate as it is stable even at 180-200 km/hr.....

If driving in City only, no need buy so big n bulky cars.....fuel consumption also waste resources only....
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not sure about maintenance since I still have 4.2 years free service and maintenance. But Bimmer owners already know about their lack of fuel economy. If they are concerned about city driving and complain about fuel, then they really can't afford it in the first place. When people buy their Axia, do they complain about fuel? No, because they can afford it, but if they do, then they probably should have only bought motorcycles.

What I am saying is that everything we buy comes with its auxiliary costs, the moment we complain about these cost, that means we couldn't afford it in the first place
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Both will leave u stranded by the roadside while the Lexus drive pass
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if you want reliability and performance go with Porsche, yea they are abit expensive than both but the reliability is about on par with japanese cars. Neighbor has a 10 year old Cayenne, he still drives it to work like normal.
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QUOTE(Boy96 @ Feb 2 2020, 01:02 PM)
Both will leave u stranded by the roadside while the Lexus drive pass
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The only time my 6 year old w176 left me stranded is when I blew out my run flats after hitting a pothole at high speed 😂

Honestly modern mercs self diagnostic will tell you in advance before things happen.
IE : low battery voltage, fluid levels etc etc
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you sound like skyblu3  biggrin.gif
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Kekekekeke

He's not

Well, boy86 just stating the truths.
Conti car stranded by the road side waiting for tow truck is rather common.
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Kekekekeke

He's not

Well, boy86 just stating the truths.
Conti car stranded by the road side waiting for tow truck is rather common.
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Because he got a lot of tow truck experiences? tongue.gif
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you sound like skyblu3  biggrin.gif
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Because he got a lot of tow truck experiences? tongue.gif
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I also got

That's why now I only drive lexus .
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BMW is for poor fuckbois who want to pretend rich.
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I used to favor BMW design (E60/61) over Merc. That 5 series was very popular back then.

But in the recent years Merc has modernized their designs and look more stylish while BMW is looking ‘angrier’ and bolder (like your nose hole already big, now it gets even bigger).

Also the feel inside a Merc is more refined than BMW. Many people talking about BMW in terms of performance but if I want performance I’d go for real sports cars. Luxury car should be more about class than performance imo. Besides, it’s not like Merc is losing in terms of performance, more like on par, depends on the models being compared.
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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Feb 4 2020, 01:42 AM)
I think I would be buying it for me, perhaps the AMG C43? Same price to the CLA45 but a little slower.
4 or 5 years then off load it.
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QUOTE(wk_edifire @ Feb 1 2020, 06:48 PM)
I ask mechanic which is best German brand Bmw or Mercs
he says Mercs wins hand on

True or not?
For Bmw and Mercs customer experience
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U ask mechanic, so i guess ur question on reliability or ease serviceable?

For old model yes, both can get outside service and price may lower than authorize dealer by 30 to 50%

New model? No ppl dare coz warranty period and bmw giving free for few times

I guess even most new model parts not easy available outside unless you buy from chop shop but why. Either warranty claim or insurance. Right?


Like wear and tear such like tire, wiper, and etc. Are very standard market price (hope no more runflat... knnccb)

Just my pov. Dun atk me.... Gua low keras
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QUOTE(thxxht @ Feb 11 2020, 09:21 AM)
if you want reliability and performance go with Porsche, yea they are abit expensive than both but the reliability is about on par with japanese cars. Neighbor has a 10 year old Cayenne, he still drives it to work like normal.
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Not the same experience for me. Panamera S with Mileage of 74,XXX after 9 years (Bought new last time) having too many issues and very costly. Just had gearbox issue recently 🤕🤕

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Parts not cheap tbh
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QUOTE(carlitofreak @ Feb 14 2020, 07:23 AM)
Not the same experience for me. Panamera S with Mileage of 70,XXX after 9 years (Bought new last time) having too many issues and very costly. Just had gearbox issue recently 🤕🤕
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Thanks for sharing. Its good to hear from actual owners. Low mileage, weekend car?

There seems to be a lot of conflicting reports and comments from users with no experience or ownership of the cars chiming in based on hearsays. I own two Protons and a Bimmer, and I limit my repair experience and costs to those three cars, with the latter giving me zero problems due to it being just a year old and free services

Other people share their comments based on what they hear from their uncles la, their mechanics la, their neighbors la - I wouldn't be sharing my Porsche repair costs with my neighbors to save face on my stupid decisions. When asked on the cars they own: Perodua, Honda, anything other than the subject matter. But they still feel qualified talking about their (non-existent) experience with other cars laugh.gif

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QUOTE(Perfect.Stranger @ Feb 14 2020, 07:26 AM)
Parts not cheap tbh
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not cheap if from SC. but relatively price at spare parts shop.
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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Feb 11 2020, 09:08 AM)
not sure about maintenance since I still have 4.2 years free service and maintenance. But Bimmer owners already know about their lack of fuel economy. If they are concerned about city driving and complain about fuel, then they really can't afford it in the first place. When people buy their Axia, do they complain about fuel? No, because they can afford it, but if they do, then they probably should have only bought motorcycles.

What I am saying is that everything we buy comes with its auxiliary costs, the moment we complain about these cost, that means we couldn't afford it in the first place
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is the BMW 2.0 Turbo engine had poor fuel economy for daily drive? can give rough average? 10km/l?
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is the BMW 2.0 Turbo engine had poor fuel economy for daily drive? can give rough average? 10km/l?
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More than 10 still able unless you’re really driving in a full traffic everyday. If really want save fuel, all in eco mode.
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QUOTE(wk_edifire @ Feb 5 2020, 11:32 AM)
Now I am thinking why BMW suddenly lose it focus on M performance cars?

Like currently M3 model no longer available but replace with M2 and M4

If u want carry track cars performance car u need to buy competition cars

I like wtf???

Last time M3 is already track car d
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Last time, most of user bought competition package for their cars, in the end, bmw straightaway came out with competition package. But bmw also like perodua, got m3, m3 competition, and m3 cs. Milking all the way.
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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Feb 14 2020, 08:13 AM)
is the BMW 2.0 Turbo engine had poor fuel economy for daily drive? can give rough average? 10km/l?
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more than 10km/l if i drive normally. But the torque is too strong at 400Nm (i dont push it to its limit) that sometimes you just "go".

Im getting 9.8/l for now since it is so new and I've been breaking-in to my car

QUOTE(razgriz_0087 @ Feb 14 2020, 08:25 AM)
Last time, most of user bought competition package for their cars, in the end, bmw straightaway came out with competition package. But bmw also like perodua, got m3, m3 competition, and m3 cs. Milking all the way.
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All companies milking their Motorsports brand. Amg and amgline, rs and what not
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QUOTE(wk_edifire @ Feb 5 2020, 11:32 AM)
Now I am thinking why BMW suddenly lose it focus on M performance cars?

Like currently M3 model no longer available but replace with M2 and M4

If u want carry track cars performance car u need to buy competition cars

I like wtf???

Last time M3 is already track car d
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M3 is coming. As usual, the M cars are based on actual production cars of its name sake. M2 is based on 2 series. M3 is based on 3 series.

G20 just released last year worldwide, G80 (M3 based on G20) will be released later this year and comes in normal as well as competition versions
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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Feb 14 2020, 08:03 AM)
Thanks for sharing. Its good to hear from actual owners. Low mileage, weekend car?

There seems to be a lot of conflicting reports and comments from users with no experience or ownership of the cars chiming in based on hearsays. I own two Protons and a Bimmer, and I limit my repair experience and costs to those three cars, with the latter giving me zero problems due to it being just a year old and free services

Other people share their comments based on what they hear from their uncles la, their mechanics la, their neighbors la - I wouldn't be sharing my Porsche repair costs with my neighbors to save face on my stupid decisions. When asked on the cars they own: Perodua, Honda, anything other than the subject matter. But they still feel qualified talking about their (non-existent) experience with other cars laugh.gif
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Tried to use it daily in the first place, but then always have issues and breakdown etc. After all the incident (breakdown in Porsche feel so malu) I only limit it to only be driven in KL while outstation i use my Japanese Sedan.
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i always see Mercedes win F1 race

BMW never win one
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QUOTE(Perfect.Stranger @ Feb 14 2020, 07:26 AM)
Parts not cheap tbh
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If u know how to DIY, mercedes parts (OEM germany etc) for me price is quite cheap.

Or maybe definition of cheap is too vague
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I saw a Panamera very nice but maintenance cost and roadtax
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QUOTE(Bora Prisoner @ Feb 14 2020, 09:16 AM)
i always see Mercedes win F1 race

BMW never win one
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BMW is F1 loser

But if you all base your daily drive on their F1 performances... Everyone should buy a Ferrari 10 years ago, and basic Merc today

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BMW is F1 loser

But if you all base your daily drive on their F1 performances... Everyone should buy a Ferrari 10 years ago, and basic Merc today
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QUOTE(carlitofreak @ Feb 14 2020, 09:19 AM)
If u know how to DIY, mercedes parts (OEM germany etc) for me price is quite cheap.

Or maybe definition of cheap is too vague
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yes parts price were relatively cheap and ok for the conti level if know how to purchase it. online purchase is also good.
the problem is most mercedes workshop/ specialist give price parts list with almost a double mark-up. the battery is one of the example.

my sister W212 E250 facelift, send sc for service. they put fuel additive cost at RM80, washer fluid at RM50, brake fluid at rm500. dry.gif

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If u know how to DIY, mercedes parts (OEM germany etc) for me price is quite cheap.

Or maybe definition of cheap is too vague
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DIY? Ok...
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DIY? Ok...
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Right?

Malas la nak DIY. If need DIY I would rather not drive these cars. Its about finding recommended workshops, sharing and be transparent with the prices, and letting the mechanics do the work

I didnt work so hard so I need to DIY my cars. Some things can diy la like changing the lightbulbs in the house, cleaning the house and mopping the floors. But when it comes to cars, something that I am supposed to drive and can kill me if it fails... No DIY.
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It's been a known fact that Mercedes has easier serviceability and cheaper parts.
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Anyone has information on normal service for the new entry level A/C/G 200/250 Series?
Forget about authorized service center or under warranty, correct me if wrong, easily 10k per visit?

The F30 328 per visit at a non authorized Japanese brand service center is below 1k per visit
QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Feb 14 2020, 08:13 AM)
is the BMW 2.0 Turbo engine had poor fuel economy for daily drive? can give rough average? 10km/l?
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The F30 328 gets about 400-450km for each full tank (about rm120) for mix city/duke driving.
Driving style erratic mix of patient and demon mode.

QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Feb 14 2020, 09:41 AM)
yes parts price were relatively cheap and ok for the conti level if know how to purchase it. online purchase is also good.
the problem is most mercedes workshop/ specialist give price parts list with almost a double mark-up. the battery is one of the example.

my sister W212 E250 facelift, send sc for service. they put fuel additive cost at RM80, washer fluid at RM50, brake fluid at rm500.  dry.gif
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These "added" service practices is common everywhere. I experienced it with authorized service center Honda, Toyota and Nissan, no need be shy and tell them take out and dont need.
Even my trusted service center does it to me,its a default package.

Authorized VW once quote a battery for 1K and I asked if any difference if I get outside, they said no and gave me contact. Got it done for 500rm.




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QUOTE(LowKeras @ Feb 14 2020, 05:24 AM)
U ask mechanic, so i guess ur question on reliability or ease serviceable?

For old model yes, both can get outside service and price may lower than authorize dealer by 30 to 50%

New model? No ppl dare coz warranty period and bmw giving free for few times

I guess even most new model parts not easy available outside unless you buy from chop shop but why. Either warranty claim or insurance. Right?
Like wear and tear such like tire, wiper, and etc. Are very standard market price (hope no more runflat... knnccb)

Just my pov. Dun atk me.... Gua low keras
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QUOTE(carlitofreak @ Feb 14 2020, 07:23 AM)
Not the same experience for me. Panamera S with Mileage of 74,XXX after 9 years (Bought new last time) having too many issues and very costly. Just had gearbox issue recently 🤕🤕

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used to own benz and it is a good reliable car. I sold the benz for bmw and never regret the decision.
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BMW reliability better than BENZ?
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My mechanic told me if scare relaibility problem go mercs

Handling BMW
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get a 3 series or amg 45?
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Dah 2020 tak habis2 tanya soalan mcm ni.
You go Axia Club.. all of them said Axia/Perodua better than M3 or A45.

If you have guts to ask this question, you must have guts to test drive both to compare, jgn pandai claim RM30 dari gomen thru apps.
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QUOTE(carlitofreak @ Feb 14 2020, 07:23 AM)
Not the same experience for me. Panamera S with Mileage of 74,XXX after 9 years (Bought new last time) having too many issues and very costly. Just had gearbox issue recently 🤕🤕

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tyre pressure gauge on display!! i suppose it show real time updates.

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get a 3 series or amg 45?
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QUOTE(dudester @ Feb 14 2020, 11:12 AM)
Anyone has information on normal service for the new entry level A/C/G 200/250 Series?
Forget about authorized service center or under warranty, correct me if wrong, easily 10k per visit?
Service every 12k km
Authorized service center Service A - ~ rm 1.2k Service B - ~ rm2-3k
Independent Service Center ~ Less than 1k for an oil change + filter

TBH mercs that are under warranty are relatively painfree experience. They're pretty lax with their warranty (provided that you always service at their authorized center) I've missed my service mileage by a few hundreds and it wasnt an issue for them when I had to claim warranty. Unlike certain marque who voids your warranty for excess service mileage.

And as a bonus, new mercs has this star care package where if your car is required to undergo maintenance/servicing for more than a day, they'll provide you with a courtesy car.
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Based on experience,

Merc win hands down, but that is based on E90 vs c200 2012.

Although, the specs is more on bmw, merc don't even have rear view camera for some expensive car.

Service also, merc a bit cheaper and better.

Not sure on F/G and newer merc.

Only driven those, and previous E series only.
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330i is much better than 330e?

Just wondering how much income to afford this car. I like the car and I planning go get one. Just a bit scared to spend that amount of commitment that depreciate. My monthly gross income is slightly above 20k.
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330i is much better than 330e?

Just wondering how much income to afford this car. I like the car and I planning go get one. Just a bit scared to spend that amount of commitment that depreciate. My monthly gross income is slightly above 20k.
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Depends

For G20 there are only 330i and 320i. No 330e. The G20 is superior on almost every levels compared to the F30. But F30s cab be had for much much cheaper price.

For F30 there are 330e and 318i. You can get older 330i that was released 4 years ago, some may still be under warranty especially of you got the ones sold in 2017 (not sure if got 2018 ones)

I would avoid the hybrids for practical reasons (heavier, shot handling, etc) and the horrible RV. I don't choose my cars based on RV perse (if i did i would just get lesser cars like Hondas and Toyotas, no no offense), but Continental hybrid's huge drop in RV simply do not make sense since you can get arguably better cars of the chassis based on internal combustion engines

20k a month should be ok. Yours truly is above that level so it was an easy decision for me. I know insurance agents earning just 10k and already bought (used) Bimmer.

If possible try and skip the first year depreciation. My car was less than a year old at 8k km and already loss 90k in value (original price was 330k and I got it for 240k)

With Bimmers all the services (labor and parts) are paid for, plus 5 year warranty. So you won't end up with surprises, except for tire punctures of the RFTs

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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Feb 16 2020, 02:09 PM)
Depends

For G20 there are only 330i and 320i. No 330e. The G20 is superior on almost every levels compared to the F30. But F30s cab be had for much much cheaper price.

For F30 there are 330e and 318i. You can get older 330i that was released 4 years ago, some may still be under warranty especially of you got the ones sold in 2017 (not sure if got 2018 ones)

I would avoid the hybrids for practical reasons (heavier, shot handling, etc) and the horrible RV. I don't choose my cars based on RV perse (if i did i would just get lesser cars like Hondas and Toyotas, no no offense), but Continental hybrid's huge drop in RV simply do not make sense since you can get arguably better cars of the chassis based on internal combustion engines

20k a month should be ok. Yours truly is above that level so it was an easy decision for me. I know insurance agents earning just 10k and already bought (used) Bimmer.

If possible try and skip the first year depreciation. My car was less than a year old at 8k km and already loss 90k in value (original price was 330k and I got it for 240k)

With Bimmers all the services (labor and parts) are paid for, plus 5 year warranty. So you won't end up with surprises, except for tire punctures of the RFTs
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Yours is 330i CBU unit? Whats the difference between CBU and CKD unit especially the features and quality? I planning to get the new one.

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Yours is 330i CBU unit? Whats the difference between CBU and CKD unit especially the features and quality? I planning to get the new one.
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yes CBU.

Zero difference in terms of major features. But my CBU already has a few apps paid (they call it "booked"). In terms of quality? No complaints so far, I have minor OCD so i hate rattlings. Not sure if CKD made by Inokom in Kedah would have severe or noticeable issues

1. Apple car play
2. Concierge services
3. Digital key
4. BMW connected app

Ill take a pic kejap lagi when I am about to drive

CBU new can still be bought for 328k. Are you Petronas? Doctor? Prudential? Check your membership on a number of bodies and see if u can get fleet discount

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Latest model bmw is cheaper

90s 00s merc is a lot cheaper

If you know how to source for meyle febi lemforder spare parts at right price

The maintenance fee is more or less the same compared to local/jap car
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yes CBU.

Zero difference in terms of major features. But my CBU already has a few apps paid (they call it "booked"). In terms of quality? No complaints so far, I have minor OCD so i hate rattlings. Not sure if CKD made by Inokom in Kedah would have severe or noticeable issues

1. Apple car play
2. Concierge services
3. Digital key
4. BMW connected app

Ill take a pic kejap lagi when I am about to drive

CBU new can still be bought for 328k. Are you Petronas? Doctor? Prudential? Check your membership on a number of bodies and see if u can get fleet discount
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Do you need to pay for Apple Car Play app? Professional job can get discount? Do your car 330i have 360 camera like X5? Btw, do you take loan from bmw or bank?
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Do you need to pay for Apple Car Play app? Professional job can get discount? Do your car 330i have 360 camera like X5? Btw, do you take loan from bmw or bank?
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For my CBU the Apple carplay was free as it was already booked. No for CKD though, for these you would need to pay one-time RM1299 activation if I am not mistaken. Check Pauline's website.

Professional jobs like Accountants (MIA) and doctors can get the aforementioned discounts, but different professions would yield different discounts. Check with your own professional bodies.

For me, I would get 8% off the list prices for Petronas (employee), Prudential (agent), and Malaysian Institute of Accountancy (professional member)

No 360 camera for the G20 in Malaysia. It would be nice but I never needed help with navigation. It would be useful for novice drivers though since the car is bigger than the usual 3 series, well not as big as the 5 series. It has front, back and side sensors which are useful

Got my financing from the bank as I am more familiar with their system compared to BMW's. My SA said BMW's financing was more expensive than the offer that I got, so it was no biggie

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Based on experience,

Merc win hands down, but that is based on E90 vs c200 2012.

Although, the specs is more on bmw, merc don't even have rear view camera for some expensive car.

Service also, merc a bit cheaper and better.

Not sure on F/G and newer merc.

Only driven those, and previous E series only.
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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Feb 17 2020, 12:27 AM)
For my CBU the Apple carplay was free as it was already booked. No for CKD though, for these you would need to pay one-time RM1299 activation if I am not mistaken. Check Pauline's website.

Professional jobs like Accountants (MIA) and doctors can get the aforementioned discounts, but different professions would yield different discounts. Check with your own professional bodies.

For me, I would get 8% off the list prices for Petronas (employee), Prudential (agent), and Malaysian Institute of Accountancy (professional member)

No 360 camera for the G20 in Malaysia. It would be nice but I never needed help with navigation. It would be useful for novice drivers though since the car is bigger than the usual 3 series, well not as big as the 5 series. It has front, back and side sensors which are useful

Got my financing from the bank as I am more familiar with their system compared to BMW's. My SA said BMW's financing was more expensive than the offer that I got, so it was no biggie
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Rm1,299 just for the app is quite pricey. Hopefully it really worth it. Can use Waze by pairing the phone using that app?

8% discount is quite a lot. That means you already save about 26k from Rm328,800. Correct me if I’m wrong. I don’t think I can check with CAAM about this discount. Haha.

360 camera quite useful for security. You can see someone approach the car from blindspot when you park the car while waiting for someone.

The loan that you got it from the bank can give better rate for Prudential agent? Do they provide special rate for professional job too?


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1. I dont use iphone. Now still using my android phone for navigation because i rely on google maps. I stick my phone on the dashboard using magnet. If you have iphone we can meetup and you can try to connect your iPhone with it, play around and see how it looks like

2. Mercedes users complaining that their apple car play ap sucks. I guess the car manufacturer has their own input on the app display

3. My Android is connected to the car through Bluetooth and Wifi-Direct. I can still control Spotify and phone calls using the car controls like steering buttons and control knob, which is tons better than my persona elegance

4. You are right about the discount calculation. Consider CKD if die die want to buy new car. Depreciation is a bitch, especially in the 1st year

5. Fair comment on the blindspot and camera. Actually... I find the car a little difficult to park due to its size. 360 cam would help a little i guess. The sensors work but i haven't fully trusted it yet

6. Loan standard rate, between me and bank. In fact, banks would prefer salaried people like you than agents like me. You are more stable

7. If you can't get discount, id suggest just buying CKD. Prereg or used are good options too. Warranty and free services are carried over to new owners. I don't suggest taking the 1st-year depreciation hit

8. Btw, despite being qualified to choose from one of the three 8% discounts, I never utilized it since I bought a pre-registered car. It was a choice between RM239k CBU pre-reg with 8k km vs RM265k CKD new (RM328k with 8% off). I chose the CBU. Kudos to you if you are making so much money that you can afford spending RM328k for a new CBU.

9. I took the car in late Jan, now it has been just two weeks since then (sent the car to the shop for some body work for a few days). It is now clocked at 9.5k km, I did 1.5k km in just two weeks. Granted I am an insurance agent, so i travel to all corners of Klang Valley to meet my clients. My point is that even if you buy it new, the novelty will wear off in no time. Our cars will be considered the same in a few months time - the latest and greatest, until the G20 LCI comes around that is

10. My CBU was registered in March 2019, I bought it in Jan 2020, in less than a year, it has lost RM90k in value. I know that RV is not at the top of the priority list to us conti-car buyers, but it is something to consider

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QUOTE(POYOZER @ Feb 17 2020, 12:11 AM)
Do you need to pay for Apple Car Play app?
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Here are my "booked" services. Booked meaning that it was already paid for a period of time, a subscription of sorts. Some of these are not available in the CKD versions of the car, especially the Apple car play thing

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post Feb 27 2020, 01:58 AM

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Btw, would the GLA be comparable to the X1? These are crossovers right? Akin to the Countryman, HRV and CX3/30?

Still looking for my wife's Iriz replacement. It has to be small in terms or width x length, while being a little taller than the Iriz

She wants the Mini 5-door, but I think I'll keep looking beyond that
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post Feb 27 2020, 02:02 AM

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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Feb 27 2020, 01:58 AM)
Btw, would the GLA be comparable to the X1? These are crossovers right? Akin to the Countryman, HRV and CX3/30?

Still looking for my wife's Iriz replacement. It has to be small in terms or width x length, while being a little taller than the Iriz

She wants the Mini 5-door, but I think I'll keep looking beyond that
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Why don't you consider XC40 since GLA and X1 are already in the list? It offers far more safety features than all of its competitors in the market.

QUOTE(furious and fast @ Feb 18 2020, 11:35 PM)
about the 6 to 8 % discount.  lets say if im not entitled to the discount .  does it still make financial sense for me to buy brand new?

or is it better to buy used merc / bmw from someone who was entitled to that discount?
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It still makes financial sense even if you are not entitled to the 6%-8% discount, as long as you can afford the car.

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QUOTE(ratloverice @ Feb 27 2020, 02:02 AM)
Why don't you consider XC40 since GLA and X1 are already in the list? It offers far more safety features than all of its competitors in the market.
It still makes financial sense even if you are not entitled to the 6%-8% discount, as long as you can afford the car.
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Sure, volvo could be in the list too. Safety is definitely important for my wife. Thank you for the suggestion. But she has to like the car too, I do not want her to drive something she despise.

but really man, the Mini is... insensible. Ill probbaly get it for her once I have exhausted all options. The XC40 got Pilot Assist 2? Ive always wanted to have that in one of my cars for long-drive. Would be sweet driving to Terengganu on PA2 laugh.gif
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post Feb 27 2020, 03:42 AM

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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Feb 27 2020, 02:07 AM)
Sure, volvo could be in the list too. Safety is definitely important for my wife. Thank you for the suggestion. But she has to like the car too, I do not want her to drive something she despise.

but really man, the Mini is... insensible. Ill probbaly get it for her once I have exhausted all options. The XC40 got Pilot Assist 2? Ive always wanted to have that in one of my cars for long-drive. Would be sweet driving to Terengganu on PA2 laugh.gif
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I always salute those who buy mini because the interior seriously is ugly af... it’s not worth that price level to me.

iirc all volvo cars come with the same safety features regardless of the model. I looked through the specs of XC40 on volvo’s website and I must say that the safety package is sooooooooooooooo complete.

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post Feb 27 2020, 10:51 AM

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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Feb 27 2020, 02:07 AM)
Sure, volvo could be in the list too. Safety is definitely important for my wife. Thank you for the suggestion. But she has to like the car too, I do not want her to drive something she despise.

but really man, the Mini is... insensible. Ill probbaly get it for her once I have exhausted all options. The XC40 got Pilot Assist 2? Ive always wanted to have that in one of my cars for long-drive. Would be sweet driving to Terengganu on PA2 laugh.gif
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Volvo Pilot assits very nice can play games during driving at highway

The screen also so big

but the worse thing is RV

But come on Accord causes RM199k

Just buy volvo is mre safety compare to jap or korean cars
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QUOTE(wk_edifire @ Feb 27 2020, 10:51 AM)
Volvo Pilot assits very nice can play games during driving at highway

The screen also so big

but the worse thing is RV

But come on Accord causes RM199k

Just buy volvo is mre safety compare to jap or korean cars
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The used XC40 price is reasonable. I (wife) need to test drive it and see how it performs
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BMW is full of unreliable shit inside from electronics, sensors and even gearboxes.

Why do u think many opt to ditch the entire German crap and replaced it with Toyota innards? Reliability and power!
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QUOTE(acbc @ Feb 27 2020, 10:58 AM)
BMW is full of unreliable shit inside from electronics, sensors and even gearboxes.

Why do u think many opt to ditch the entire German crap and replaced it with Toyota innards? Reliability and power!
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BMW 8 speed ZF gearbox is the best in it class
Engine N54 build like a tank but after that dunno all turbo engine
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QUOTE(acbc @ Feb 27 2020, 10:58 AM)
BMW is full of unreliable shit inside from electronics, sensors and even gearboxes.

Why do u think many opt to ditch the entire German crap and replaced it with Toyota innards? Reliability and power!
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QUOTE(wk_edifire @ Feb 27 2020, 11:06 AM)
BMW 8 speed ZF gearbox is the best in it class
Engine N54 build like a tank but after that dunno all turbo engine
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The B48 has not much reliability problems now, its been used since 2014 and they have ironed out the issues from older iterations

 

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