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 Medical specialist salary in Malaysia, How much do specialists earn in private

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post Aug 14 2022, 05:32 PM

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Big variation according to centers and also specialty. Obviously those medical physicians will earn way less than say orthopaedic surgeon in big privates.

paediatrician and medical physician in private is roughly 30k per month only whereas Ortho surgeons can go up to 200k monthly in private

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post Aug 14 2022, 08:59 PM

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QUOTE(sean15 @ Aug 14 2022, 05:15 PM)
Can I know how you got the 45k figure please? Just curious
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direct from the horse's mouth a.k.a a Managing Director of a certain large private hospital operator in Malaysia
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QUOTE(sean15 @ Jan 26 2020, 12:01 PM)
Many Malaysians are now pursuing medicine due to the perceived good life that they will have in the future, i.e. moving to private sector where they will earn big bucks. Eventhough the situation in the public hospitals are overwhelming, they always convince themselves that once they join the private sector, they will lead a comfortable life raking in big money.

My question I would like to post is, does anyone know how much these specialists can earn in private, like say KPJ or Pantai hospitals? Some say more than RM100k a month, some say reaching RM40k is also considered good. So let's have a discussion on this so that we would have future doctors who enter the profession for passion, not just money per se. Appreciate any input that you guys might have! Thanks smile.gif
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5 years uni + 2 years MO at gov hospitals (most quit or no job positions here) + 2 years minimum specialist study + 1 year give & take to search for needle in the haystack private hospital job post-specialist qualification = 10 years of medical suffering.

21 years old + 10 years = 31 years before you can have work life balance.
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post Aug 14 2022, 09:16 PM

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Specialist gaji ciput je in private compared to those who owned chain clinics lol. Friend earning 220k a month from 4 clinics
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post Aug 14 2022, 09:18 PM

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Owner of Klinik Siti chain... Lel u guess la earning brapa per month. 53 clinics in selangor under them
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post Aug 14 2022, 09:22 PM

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First girl I dated after graduate is a doctor.
I think her starting is 12k at the time.
Now must have been at least more than 25-30k per month.
She just have hee birthday a few days ago and at age 37 still unmarried, no time to travel overseas.
There is sacrifice.
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post Aug 14 2022, 09:25 PM

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QUOTE(sean15 @ Aug 14 2022, 05:15 PM)
Yup I realised this too. Seems to be a huge range quoted on this forum. Imagine doctors getting 200k a month. Sounds way too overpaid to me
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post Aug 14 2022, 09:37 PM

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QUOTE(BerusGigi @ Jan 26 2020, 01:49 PM)
My boss is a surgeon at gleaneagles and hukm rake in 400k++ per month
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who?

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post Aug 14 2022, 09:45 PM

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QUOTE(hksgmy @ Sep 11 2020, 11:29 AM)
In my very humble opinion:

1. If you're money minded, you will not find it easy to be a good doctor and make a lot of money at the same time. Although being a good doctor does not preclude the practitioner from becoming wealthy, the trajectory of wealth accumulation and generation will be vastly different to that of a successful businessman. It's not uncommon for passionate doctors to take a long time to accumulate wealth, as opposed to people in other professions. A lot of times, doctors make decisions against their own interests - because the patient's condition and illness demands such a conclusion. A simple example is do we give oral antibiotics for what is likely a simple viral infection of the throat with fever? If we don't, we lose out on the margin of profit from the sale of antibiotics, but if we do, we expose the patient to potential future antibiotic resistance because the antibiotics were given unnecessarily.

2. Doctors don't make good investors - because investors sometimes have to take risks to realise big gains, and doctors need to be risk adverse, as taking risks may end up harming the patient's outcome when a more conservative option would have been the safer decision. An example would be conservative treatment vs. surgical intervention for cervical spondylosis with radiculopathic pain. Conservative treatment involves analgesics, nerve relaxants, physiotherapy and the use of a soft neck collar. It's slow, boring and unexciting - but it's safe and most patients do eventually recover. Surgical intervention may involve laminectomy and disc/spine fusion and reconstruction and "cement" injections. With any surgery, there are risks involved - and the ultimate risk is the patient may end up being paralysed and a quadriplegic or a paraplegic. And, if you find yourself armpit-deep in the red from your forays into the stock market, would you then be tempted to push the envelop of risk for your patients, in order to recoup the paper losses?

3. In an ideal medical scenario, money and medicine are mutually exclusive - medical care is given solely only to those who need it, not to those who can best afford to pay a premium for it.

The attitude, character and personality required to be a successful - and dedicated - doctor is quite different from many other professions. I'm not the final judge or arbiter to say one is better to the other; in fact, it's merely different. You'll have to find the profession &/or specialty that best suits your personality and character - otherwise, you may find it a miserable existence for the next 40 or so years of your working life.
bauer, truer words were never spoken. Well done & welcome back to Malaysia.
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Thank you for wise words.im pretty sure u already consultant level doctor.while im still an ikan bilis,still doing 2nd year of MOship in primary care,at the age of 30,wondering what to do in my life.
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can personally say my dad was a medical specialist, now retired. the fact he bought condo for me and my bro each already goes to show how much specialists can earn.

never asked how much dad earns since what kid of son would ask such a question

but am really grateful for this for all the support

and he never liked buying high end cars compared to what his colleagues drive
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post Aug 14 2022, 10:11 PM

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QUOTE(sean15 @ Jan 26 2020, 12:01 PM)
Many Malaysians are now pursuing medicine due to the perceived good life that they will have in the future, i.e. moving to private sector where they will earn big bucks. Eventhough the situation in the public hospitals are overwhelming, they always convince themselves that once they join the private sector, they will lead a comfortable life raking in big money.

My question I would like to post is, does anyone know how much these specialists can earn in private, like say KPJ or Pantai hospitals? Some say more than RM100k a month, some say reaching RM40k is also considered good. So let's have a discussion on this so that we would have future doctors who enter the profession for passion, not just money per se. Appreciate any input that you guys might have! Thanks smile.gif
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Just food for tought. Nurses under kkm sponsered program, started training at 18 with allowance until 21/22. After that most confirm got placement in gov hospital.. Nurses livin the dream, no loan no housement. Compared to a doctor in training. 18 to 19 a level then 5years degree with loan or without loan. Then another 5 years of housementship on contract from government. Is itfair for those doctors?
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post Aug 14 2022, 10:24 PM

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RM500k per year NHS
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post Aug 14 2022, 10:33 PM

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Specialist earn alot. My brother after completing his mrcpsych is pulling in £200k per annum. He is working in UK now for 3 years and his only 35. In Malaysia its quite hard to get paid well as a psychiatrist.. his friend is in OBGYN and is pulling in about RM40k per month..

Downside is u need huge amount of capital to spend for your studies during initial years..My brothers MBBS was easily 600k about 10 years ago.
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QUOTE(kkk8787 @ Aug 14 2022, 05:32 PM)
Big variation according to centers and also specialty. Obviously those medical physicians will earn way less than say orthopaedic surgeon in big privates.

paediatrician and medical physician in private is roughly 30k per month only whereas Ortho surgeons can go up to 200k monthly in private
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how come my friend saw those clinic-only paediatrician , say he only earn like GP 15-20k .. meaning he doesnt hospitalize patients , just clinic
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post Aug 14 2022, 10:50 PM

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QUOTE(FrostLance @ Aug 14 2022, 09:18 PM)
Owner of Klinik Siti chain... Lel u guess la earning brapa per month. 53 clinics in selangor under them
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air suam himself is owner of chain
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post Aug 14 2022, 10:51 PM

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QUOTE(Angelic Layer @ Aug 14 2022, 09:22 PM)
First girl I dated after graduate is a doctor.
I think her starting is 12k at the time.
Now must have been at least more than 25-30k per month.
She just have hee birthday a few days ago and at age 37 still unmarried, no time to travel overseas.
There is sacrifice.
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that means u dated her when she was in her 30s?
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post Aug 14 2022, 10:53 PM

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QUOTE(kernel123 @ Aug 14 2022, 09:45 PM)
Thank you for wise words.im pretty sure u already consultant level doctor.while im still an ikan bilis,still doing 2nd year of MOship in primary care,at the age of 30,wondering what to do in my life.
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can tell us your story?
enter uni 20, grad 25, wait 1 year HO started at 26, now 30 after 4 years work?
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QUOTE(Raddus @ Aug 14 2022, 10:03 PM)
can personally say my dad was a medical specialist, now retired. the fact he bought condo for me and my bro each already goes to show how much specialists can earn.

never asked how much dad earns since what kid of son would ask such a question

but am really grateful for this for all the support

and he never liked buying high end cars compared to what his colleagues drive
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then ur mom also very high keras?
then u and siblings now must be high flyer also. usually good genes pass on

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Many years back, did a POC project for one of the chain specialists hospital in msia...

Averagely the doctor earns 100k to 200k per month. A few earns 500k to 800k. Just one very super specialized and famous doctor earning 1 million every month shocking.gif
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QUOTE(Knnbuccb @ Aug 14 2022, 10:50 PM)
air suam himself is owner of chain
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He has 18 clinics in johor

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