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genesiscopy
post Jan 23 2020, 06:38 PM

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QUOTE(ExCrIpT @ Jan 23 2020, 08:34 PM)
take undang, go for lessons 13 hours or so dont remember, QTI and then test that's it
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If upgrading, do an L license at jpj. Then go to academy / school and do the above. No need take kpp01 i.e. the computer test.
genesiscopy
post Jul 30 2022, 01:16 PM

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I always felt the slalom is harder than titi. Lol. Failed once due to this when i was taking b2 ages ago, luckily got it passed on first attempt during B full test.
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post Nov 18 2022, 12:33 PM

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Just my 2cents. The bike test essentially tries to emulate the riding in traffic. Titi essentially trains you when filtering at low speed (or shoulder of road where the tar is thick but no tapering it looks like a mini cliff), slalom for weaving in between cars, braking is emergency braking lah, uneven roads is typical Malaysian road, figure of 8 for smaller roundabouts or u-turns, and 90deg corner for taking corners or exiting to another junction rapidly.

Basically failing these tests means you're not ready for the road yet.

This post has been edited by genesiscopy: Nov 18 2022, 12:34 PM
genesiscopy
post Nov 19 2022, 11:33 AM

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QUOTE(ZZR-Pilot @ Nov 19 2022, 01:11 PM)
Errr... yes and no, actually.

Yes because these are actually basic bike handling skills and they are definitely a prerequisite out there in real traffic.

No because riding in traffic actually requires something else in addition to these skills - ROADCRAFT.

Some of the necessary roadcraft skills are what you're tested on during the computer test. The rest, for example situational awareness, wet weather riding, scanning, positioning etc are actually not taught, although you can learn about them on Youtube.

This gap in roadcraft knowledge was what worried me when my wife was attending driving school. So I got an intercom system so that I could coach her in real-time when we got out on little practice rides, and even now when we go out touring. Our last trip was from KL to Wang Kelian and Langkawi, where I was able to talk her through all the different situations we encountered riding at night, in the rain, in the twisties and on kampung roads on the island.
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I suppose since i am too poor to go on bike trips (and don't have riding friends). Those are just my noob observations from riding to work daily in heavy traffic to KL for 6 years. Situational awareness is key for safe/defensive riding like you mentioned before and these aren't covered by the academy.
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post Nov 20 2022, 01:58 PM

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QUOTE(ZZR-Pilot @ Nov 19 2022, 01:46 PM)
I wasn't that much different when I started to ride.

In fact, making friends & going on rides together with them bordered on being detrimental coz, as I discovered, there was too much peer pressure to ride dangerously. Masing2 nak tunjuk power, masing2 nak laju. They'll showcase both the good and the bad, and it was up to me to read up and tell which is which.

This gap in practical roadcraft training in driving schools reveals a potential that driving schools could address in their business model, and it's one of the topics I'm considering for my doctoral dissertation in postgrad school.
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Yeah, saw a vid by Ryan where he mathematically explained how catching up reduces your response time when approaching bends.

 

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