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L.Torreira
post Jan 23 2020, 03:12 PM

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QUOTE(Syie9^_^ @ Jan 23 2020, 01:34 PM)
House =/= Land.

House you die die 100 years old; also no use; become temple.

it is the land that value...

You have house on sea; 100 years also no one want to fight you except land reclaim.

MAX houses built in malaysia current Y2020 lifespan = 20 years.

the built quality so much songlap; even you freehold you also worry.
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20 years a joke la. At least 50 years for double storey. For single storey even can last 80 years. For apartment/condo 40 years already good
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post Jan 23 2020, 03:14 PM

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QUOTE(L.Torreira @ Jan 23 2020, 04:42 PM)
20 years a joke la. At least 50 years for double storey. For single storey even can last 80 years. For apartment/condo 40 years already good
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You dont believe? check how many "project built this days" with assurance that less than a year got hair less crack after VP. and project the 20 years you have it.


thus i concluded that the lifespan is short as cost rises.

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post Jan 23 2020, 03:14 PM

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I thought everything we own is on lease.
-Hand phone
-Car
-House
-Clothes

Ownership is a lie.
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post Jan 23 2020, 03:35 PM

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QUOTE(L.Torreira @ Jan 23 2020, 03:08 PM)
Leasehold? When 50 years you hardly sell. Better you rent forever since it's cheaper. If flipper yes they buy leasehold coz cheaper but if you wanna stay till die no good.
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QUOTE(L.Torreira @ Jan 23 2020, 03:10 PM)
Unless cheaper than rental.
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If renting, yes now might be cheaper but owner definitely will revise the price each year? So how to justify total cos would be cheaper?
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post Jan 23 2020, 04:24 PM

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QUOTE(Syie9^_^ @ Jan 23 2020, 01:16 PM)
MEPs?
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post Jan 23 2020, 04:29 PM

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if subsale, gonna be a prob. when lease expiring aint nobody gonna buy it.
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post Jan 23 2020, 04:30 PM

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QUOTE(royalben @ Jan 23 2020, 03:14 PM)
I thought everything we own is on lease.
-Hand phone
-Car
-House
-Clothes

Ownership is a lie.
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Even your body & family. Basically your life.
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post Jan 23 2020, 04:33 PM

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QUOTE(wildan03 @ Jan 23 2020, 01:03 PM)
They say if free hold, you can get ahold of that house and land forever. But with only ~1500sqft of land, is it really relevant?

if buy freehold high rise, it is even worse. In 99 years time you won't even know if that house is still livable or not.

Plus, if the leasehold area is highly developed residential area, will government simply take back the land and developed highway for example?

What are the disadvantages buying leasehold property actually for permanent stay, not flipper.

Why some of my friends/relatives is so against me buying leasehold?

Would you go for freehold instead and save around 100-200k?
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resale value. nobody gonna buy a leasehold house with just 30 years left.
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post Jan 23 2020, 04:35 PM

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Freehold

My grandson gonna be proud of me.


Plot twist i’m still single sad.gif
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post Jan 23 2020, 04:38 PM

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Leasehold or freehold is all about bank financing. Nothing else. Obviously, with freehold, the bank will offer higher financial subject to docs.

With leasehold, banks usually offer lower financing and people tend to offer lower too.

Example is Kota Damansara. The whole place is leasehold and as a result, even a Semi-D cannot fetch more than RM 2M. Bungalows less than RM 3M. On property sites, they usually ask for higher price but during actual sale, it will be much lower.
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QUOTE(accitzone @ Jan 23 2020, 05:54 PM)
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Yea;that; most also have lifespan 15 years max. or 10.
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post Jan 23 2020, 04:56 PM

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freehold or leasehold both are the same in terms of gomen retake back the land for redevelopment, both also gomen hav the right to take bck the land, but for freehold the compensation is higher of gomen wan take bck the land for redevelopment after lets say 20 years n after 99 years the gomen cn take it bck without paying u a single cent, whereas for freehold the gomen need to pay u bck the market value of the land

leasehold is not secure as in after 99 years if gomen wan take the land bck n dun wan extend the lease u also cannot do anything, u will just hav to move out




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post Jan 23 2020, 05:51 PM

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QUOTE(wildan03 @ Jan 23 2020, 03:35 PM)
If renting, yes now might be cheaper but owner definitely will revise the price each year? So how to justify total cos would be cheaper?
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When you have 500k. Put it at FD. The interest can cover the rental increase. Now supply> demand so always got cheap rental
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post Jan 23 2020, 05:53 PM

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QUOTE(Syie9^_^ @ Jan 23 2020, 03:14 PM)
You dont believe? check how many "project built this days" with assurance that less than a year got hair less crack after VP. and project the 20 years you have it.
thus i concluded that the lifespan is short as cost rises.
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But 20 years is such short time. I even felt I owned house yesterday but It has already been 5 years.

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post Jan 23 2020, 05:57 PM

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QUOTE(royalben @ Jan 23 2020, 03:14 PM)
I thought everything we own is on lease.
-Hand phone
-Car
-House
-Clothes

Ownership is a lie.
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I see you have taken the red pill.
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post Jan 23 2020, 06:04 PM

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QUOTE(Zot @ Jan 23 2020, 01:23 PM)
Lease or free hold govt can take back when there is need but as far as I know the value is evaluated differently.
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Totally different thing la. Freehold the way to get back is via LAA , whereas lease when they wanna take back after lease ends they dont need to.
My dad used to do a lot of these when buidling the highways last time.
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post Jan 23 2020, 06:08 PM

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QUOTE(kkk8787 @ Jan 23 2020, 06:04 PM)
Totally different thing la. Freehold the way to get back is via LAA , whereas lease when they wanna take back after lease ends they dont need to.
My dad used to do a lot of these when buidling the highways last time.
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but even for freehold gomen still cn forcefully take it bck right? just that they hav to pay higher compensation, before 99 years both freehold n leasehold can also be taken bck by gomen n pay compensation, so no diff la

after 99 years leasehold become gomen land for free whereas freehold gomen still need to pay high compensation to get it bck
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QUOTE(L.Torreira @ Jan 23 2020, 07:23 PM)
But 20 years is such short time. I even felt I owned house yesterday but It has already been 5 years.
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Time own the house = /= value

Time own the house = Loss in servicing the asset (liability)

When you own a house and live in it and still paying mortgage + bills + tax; it is liability.

It is an ASSET when it is generating $$$$ for you. - all liability on the asset.


yes it is short; doesnt matter how long you have it; the most important how much you get when you sell it.

Learn from Japan property market. They have very short lifespan on the value
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post Jan 23 2020, 06:15 PM

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freehold landed, leasehold high rise
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post Jan 23 2020, 06:41 PM

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QUOTE(rooney723 @ Jan 23 2020, 06:08 PM)
but even for freehold gomen still cn forcefully take it bck right? just that they hav to pay higher compensation, before 99 years both freehold n leasehold can also be taken bck by gomen n pay compensation, so no diff la

after 99 years leasehold become gomen land for free whereas freehold gomen still need to pay high compensation to get it bck
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It's under LAA as I said. Whereas for leasehold they dont need to

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