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TSbobowyc
post Jan 21 2020, 01:06 PM, updated 4y ago

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Hi guys, currently using intel i7-4770k, asrock extreme6 and 4x4GB g.skill ram. Should i upgrade now to 9th gen or wait for 10th gen? Would prefer intel hardware. xD Already have ryzen for work. This is for gaming purposes, PUBG, CS, Ace Combat 7, GTA5, AC: Odyssey etc. All games mentioned already in my steam library. My actual PC specs are in my sig. lol. Would prefer to get more than 16GB ram if i can. lel.

Budget about 2k for those 3 items, enough? lol. Prefer i7 or if i5 is 6core also i dont mind. lel.

Thanks in advance guys. biggrin.gif

Edit: Anyone knows any Intel mobo for 9th gen with dual LAN support? Please let me know. I've tried searching but very limited. Any brand is okay, but preferably, asrock, asus, gigabyte and those brands widely known one. xD haha.. Thanks!

Edit II: Already ordered Intel i7-11700k, Asrock Z590 Taichi and Be Quiet! Deep Rock Pro 4 Air Cooler. Heh. Total was around RM3.7k. Arriving next week. hehe. whee. biggrin.gif

Edit III: All items arrived. wheee. smile.gif Cant wait to install it.. xD

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post Jan 23 2020, 12:04 PM

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QUOTE(bobowyc @ Jan 21 2020, 01:06 PM)
Hi guys, currently using intel i7-4770k, asrock extreme6 and 4x4GB g.skill ram. Should i upgrade now to 9th gen or wait for 10th gen? Would prefer intel hardware. xD Already have ryzen for work. This is for gaming purposes, PUBG, CS, Ace Combat 7, GTA5, AC: Odyssey etc. All games mentioned already in my steam library. My actual PC specs are in my sig. lol. Would prefer to get more than 16GB ram if i can. lel.

Budget about 2k for those 3 items, enough? lol. Prefer i7 or if i5 is 6core also i dont mind. lel.

Thanks in advance guys. biggrin.gif
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10th gen Intel is rumored to be delayed due to the immense power draw of the 10 core chip sweat.gif

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/intels-ne...-too-much-power

Forget about getting Intel at the moment as AMD's Zen 2 basically outperforms Intel in many ways (except gaming, but it's very close), along you can get an upgrade to upcoming Zen 3 CPUs with a BIOS and a CPU swap icon_idea.gif

More than 16GB RAM will be very expensive (costs about 1/3 of your budget FYI) so I'd avoid spending so much on RAM icon_idea.gif

If you still insist of getting Intel you are basically sidegrading your PC tongue.gif
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post Jan 23 2020, 02:04 PM

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QUOTE(chocobo7779 @ Jan 23 2020, 12:04 PM)
10th gen Intel is rumored to be delayed due to the immense power draw of the 10 core chip sweat.gif

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/intels-ne...-too-much-power

Forget about getting Intel at the moment as AMD's Zen 2 basically outperforms Intel in many ways (except gaming, but it's very close), along you can get an upgrade to upcoming Zen 3 CPUs with a BIOS and a CPU swap icon_idea.gif

More than 16GB RAM will be very expensive (costs about 1/3 of your budget FYI) so I'd avoid spending so much on RAM icon_idea.gif

If you still insist of getting Intel you are basically sidegrading your PC tongue.gif
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Ow nooo.

Hahaha.. Actually its optional as I can upgrade the ram anytime. lol.

Oh man... Why though? xD I would prefer intel for gaming, ryzen for my work. xD Its a ryzen 5 2600. xD I havent really fully tested it on games as its running a 1060 gpu. xD I thought intel would be better for gaming as i play a lot of FPS games. And at the moment i keep getting fps drops with significant amount, my cs usually is 144, but dips to 22 out of nowhere. Only an ALT-Tab would reset it to 144 again. And im playing competitive... lol.
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post Jan 24 2020, 01:34 PM

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Ryzen 7 3700X or Intel i7 9700k? Lol.
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QUOTE(bobowyc @ Jan 24 2020, 01:34 PM)
Ryzen 7 3700X or Intel i7 9700k? Lol.
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3700X. Coming from someone who switched from i7-4790K.
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post Jan 24 2020, 04:49 PM

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QUOTE(TristanX @ Jan 24 2020, 04:40 PM)
3700X. Coming from someone who switched from i7-4790K.
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Oh nice, may i know what mobo you using?
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QUOTE(bobowyc @ Jan 24 2020, 04:49 PM)
Oh nice, may i know what mobo you using?
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Gigabyte X570 Aorus Master. Not exactly cheap.
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post Jan 25 2020, 10:52 AM

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QUOTE(TristanX @ Jan 24 2020, 06:37 PM)
Gigabyte X570 Aorus Master. Not exactly cheap.
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Yeah man, saw the price, a whopping RM1.5k!! lol. Probably will up my budget to 3k then. LOL.
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QUOTE(bobowyc @ Jan 25 2020, 10:52 AM)
Yeah man, saw the price, a whopping RM1.5k!! lol. Probably will up my budget to 3k then. LOL.
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Not that expensive if you buy mobo bundled with the cpu. I bought 3700x + x570 aorus master from techview. 2650 bucks . Its in PJ.

If you really want a x570 mobo, all of them also very expensive. If you want R7 3700x and a mobo below 2k , it is possible but it will be a B450 board.

Then u need RAM. I bought Gskill Trident Z RGB 8Gbx2 3600mhz CL18 from Topmaid at 470 bucks per kit. Thats a Samsung B die RAM. I have both Trident Z and Trident Z Neo. Same memory chips on the same PCB.

If you think Aorus Master too expensive but you want an X570 platform at a cost then got 2 options for you. You can opt for the Asus TUF Gaming X570-Plus Wifi ( this mobo plenty available at lowyat plaza , Topmaid i think offered me 850 bucks) , but it is using Realtek LAN .

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QUOTE(bobowyc @ Jan 25 2020, 10:52 AM)
Yeah man, saw the price, a whopping RM1.5k!! lol. Probably will up my budget to 3k then. LOL.
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Yeah, more features means more expensive. You can go for Asus TUF X570 Gaming if you want best budget X570. It comes with less features but it can handle 16 core easily. I still don't like Realtek LAN though.
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post Jan 29 2020, 01:26 PM

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QUOTE(k!nex @ Jan 26 2020, 12:10 PM)
Not that expensive if you buy mobo bundled with the cpu. I bought 3700x + x570 aorus master from techview. 2650 bucks . Its in PJ.

If you really want a x570 mobo, all of them also very expensive. If you want R7 3700x and a mobo below 2k , it is possible but it will be a B450 board.

Then u need RAM. I bought Gskill Trident Z RGB 8Gbx2 3600mhz CL18 from Topmaid at 470 bucks per kit. Thats a Samsung B die RAM. I have both Trident Z and Trident Z Neo. Same memory chips on the same PCB.

If you think Aorus Master too expensive but you want an X570 platform at a cost then got 2 options for you. You can opt for the Asus TUF Gaming X570-Plus Wifi ( this mobo plenty available at lowyat plaza , Topmaid i think offered me 850 bucks) , but it is using Realtek LAN .
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Its okay bro, i can increase to 3k budget. hahaa.. I just want it to be better than my i7-4770k currently, as im seeing some bottlenecking now due to CPU i think. And also I guess its time to upgrade. Using 1080ti now so i cant use cheap board or proc. at least an X570 board for ryzen series or Z series board for intel. lol. Prepared to spend about 2-3k actually. Maybe an additional casing too. Old one is really old. lol. RAM im set for corsair vengeance pro rgb 3200 ram at 700 bucks. plus bundle i might need to fork out a bit more. lol. As in cpu and mobo bundle. xD if its as you said 2.6k, it will be about 3.3k. Still acceptable. xD


QUOTE(TristanX @ Jan 26 2020, 01:58 PM)
Yeah, more features means more expensive. You can go for Asus TUF X570 Gaming if you want best budget X570. It comes with less features but it can handle 16 core easily. I still don't like Realtek LAN though.
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Why ya, whats with realtek LAN? xD hahaa Care to explain more?



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QUOTE(bobowyc @ Jan 29 2020, 01:26 PM)
Why ya, whats with realtek LAN? xD hahaa Care to explain more?
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Not as stable as Intel or Broadcom LAN chip.
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QUOTE(TristanX @ Jan 29 2020, 01:34 PM)
Not as stable as Intel or Broadcom LAN chip.
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Just avoid the ones with the 'Killer' LAN will do icon_idea.gif
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post Jan 29 2020, 01:49 PM

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QUOTE(TristanX @ Jan 29 2020, 01:34 PM)
Not as stable as Intel or Broadcom LAN chip.
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QUOTE(chocobo7779 @ Jan 29 2020, 01:37 PM)
Just avoid the ones with the 'Killer' LAN will do icon_idea.gif
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Ohh. Alright guys, so using the intel and broadcom would be better? Does this explain why when i download from utorrent my internet disconnects? I think my LAN now is connected to Realtek LAN port, my mobo has 2 ports. Using ASrock Extreme6. lol
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QUOTE(bobowyc @ Jan 29 2020, 01:49 PM)
Ohh. Alright guys, so using the intel and broadcom would be better? Does this explain why when i download from utorrent my internet disconnects? I think my LAN now is connected to Realtek LAN port, my mobo has 2 ports. Using ASrock Extreme6. lol
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Depends on the router tongue.gif
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post Jan 29 2020, 01:57 PM

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QUOTE(chocobo7779 @ Jan 29 2020, 01:55 PM)
Depends on the router tongue.gif
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Router using Asus RT-N56U. So far it was performing, but just recently only like this. Last time i downloaded like 20episodes of anime at one go no problem. Now i download a mere 10 the line cuts. And i have to restart my router. I restart the modem actually.
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QUOTE(chocobo7779 @ Jan 29 2020, 01:37 PM)
Just avoid the ones with the 'Killer' LAN will do icon_idea.gif
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Yeah, Killer LAN is BSOD champion.

QUOTE(bobowyc @ Jan 29 2020, 01:57 PM)
Router using Asus RT-N56U. So far it was performing, but just recently only like this. Last time i downloaded like 20episodes of anime at one go no problem. Now i download a mere 10 the line cuts. And i have to restart my router. I restart the modem actually.
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Check your router and see if it is extremely hot. Overheat router also disconnects you a lot.
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QUOTE(TristanX @ Jan 29 2020, 02:24 PM)
Yeah, Killer LAN is BSOD champion.
Check your router and see if it is extremely hot. Overheat router also disconnects you a lot.
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Lol. Ohh. And i thought it was considered good. xD hahaha.

My router currently has a laptop cooling fan under it, so i think its not that hot, but it is actually. Not as hot as mine upstairs, i have 2, 1 upstairs, 1 downstairs. xD
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QUOTE(bobowyc @ Jan 29 2020, 01:26 PM)
Its okay bro, i can increase to 3k budget. hahaa.. I just want it to be better than my i7-4770k currently, as im seeing some bottlenecking now due to CPU i think. And also I guess its time to upgrade. Using 1080ti now so i cant use cheap board or proc. at least an X570 board for ryzen series or Z series board for intel. lol. Prepared to spend about 2-3k actually. Maybe an additional casing too. Old one is really old. lol. RAM im set for corsair vengeance pro rgb 3200 ram at 700 bucks. plus bundle i might need to fork out a bit more. lol. As in cpu and mobo bundle. xD if its as you said 2.6k, it will be about 3.3k. Still acceptable. xD
Why ya, whats with realtek LAN? xD hahaa Care to explain more?
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You can opt for Gigabyte x570 Aorus Elite also if you need Intel LAN. I think this or the Asus X570 TUF Gaming Plus Wifi is the bare minimum you should buy for an X570 board. If you want cheaper , buy B450 better . But you have to be aware , cheaper boards dont come with SLI support.

It is recommended to go 3600Mhz on the RAM if you can afford it.
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AMD has recommended 3600Mhz CL16 for Ryzen 3000 series. But CL16 for 3600Mhz is damn rare here. Most 3600Mhz kits sold in lowyat plaza are all CL18. You have to OC it manually .

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post Jan 30 2020, 01:17 PM

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QUOTE(k!nex @ Jan 29 2020, 03:19 PM)
You can opt for Gigabyte x570 Aorus Elite also if you need Intel LAN. I think this or the Asus X570 TUF Gaming Plus Wifi is the bare minimum you should buy for an X570 board. If you want cheaper , buy B450 better . But you have to be aware , cheaper boards dont come with SLI support.

It is recommended to go 3600Mhz on the RAM if you can afford it.
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AMD has recommended 3600Mhz CL16 for Ryzen 3000 series. But CL16 for 3600Mhz is damn rare here. Most 3600Mhz kits sold in lowyat plaza are all CL18. You have to OC it manually .
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I wont be SLI-ing my desktop, but just buying it for the storage and pcie slots. haha. I would prefer the X series board. But for ram, need to be 3600Mhz? lol. Cause i think kinda over budget already. 3k+ also over budget ad actually. hahaha.. xD

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