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 2020 G20 318i to get detuned 2.0 B48 engine

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post Jan 19 2020, 03:06 PM

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QUOTE(RGRaj @ Jan 19 2020, 02:02 PM)
No point buying car beyond 100 bhp. Hiway speed limit is 110 kph oni.
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They will say let the LAW deal with them.
Others can fuck of the road while they drive like a maniac.
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post Jan 19 2020, 03:15 PM

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Bmw and makan 3 pot.. kakaka..
Now they know this is a shet idea to start with
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post Jan 19 2020, 03:15 PM

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QUOTE(abu.shofwan @ Jan 19 2020, 03:01 PM)
The point was the HP number seemed too low for a turbo engine.
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agree, 156hp from a 2.0L turbo engine is very low, even a honda accord with a 2.0L NA engine produce 153hp , this G20 got a turbo summore le
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post Jan 19 2020, 03:23 PM

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QUOTE(rooney723 @ Jan 19 2020, 03:15 PM)
agree, 156hp from a 2.0L turbo engine is very low, even a honda accord with a 2.0L NA engine produce 153hp , this G20 got a turbo summore le
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Jusy Imagine the tuning potential of this engine

https://youtu.be/HpMSWTYPHZw


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post Jan 19 2020, 03:29 PM

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QUOTE(yattnana @ Jan 19 2020, 12:31 PM)
I think it's electronically limited to 156bhp so that it wont steal the 320i sales
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no leh
i think what he meant is even 2.0L N/A can get higher than that
2.0L N/A should get quite near to 200HP..and this one has turbo which doesn't make sense
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post Jan 19 2020, 03:29 PM

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QUOTE(yattnana @ Jan 19 2020, 03:23 PM)
Jusy Imagine the tuning potential of this engine

https://youtu.be/HpMSWTYPHZw


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yeah this will be great to those who like modding their cars to unlock the full potential of this engine

but what about those who dont mod their cars or those who oni buy this car to drive from point A to point B and dont care about those potential performance gain of the engine? this detuned 2.0L turbo engine is producing just slightly more torque than a 2.0L NA engine and producing the same hp as a 2.0L NA engine, if like dis they might as well remove the turbo and make it NA, cos no point putting a turbo in for this kind of performance output, consumers also have to consider the costs to maintain a turbo car (such as using fully synthetic oil) and the turbocharger itself (turbo will wear n tear)

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post Jan 19 2020, 03:37 PM

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jan 19 2020, 03:29 PM)
no leh
i think what he meant is even 2.0L N/A can get higher than that
2.0L N/A should get quite near to 200HP..and this one has turbo which doesn't make sense
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not really la,the 2.0L NA 200hp u saw is from a GT86, that one is tuned for performance, diff wan

usually family sedan 2.0L NA engine produce between 150-160++ hp, honda accord 2.0L NA produce 153hp and mazda 3 skyactiv 2.0L NA produce 163hp
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post Jan 19 2020, 03:41 PM

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QUOTE(rooney723 @ Jan 19 2020, 03:37 PM)
not really la,the 2.0L NA 200hp u saw is from a GT86, that one is tuned for performance, diff wan

usually family sedan 2.0L NA engine produce between 150-160++ hp, honda accord 2.0L NA produce 153hp and mazda 3 skyactiv 2.0L NA produce 163hp
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and yes without a turbocharger the torque figure should be around 210nm @ 4500 rpm instead of 250nm @ 1500 rpm
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post Jan 19 2020, 03:56 PM

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That decent..8.4second and 220kmh top speed.

Engine still 2.0, 250kn torque will help the heavy body
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post Jan 19 2020, 04:01 PM

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QUOTE(yattnana @ Jan 19 2020, 03:41 PM)
and yes without a turbocharger the torque figure should be around 210nm @ 4500 rpm instead of 250nm @ 1500 rpm
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but the slight performance gain in torque of this 2.0 turbo over a 2.0L NA engine canot justify the cost of maintaining a turbo car la, consumers have to bear the full costs of maintaining a turbo car (which is higher than NA cars) while getting a very small gain of performance over a 2.0L NA car

they might as well put a 1.5L turbo engine in and get this kind of performance, at least consumers can save on the road tax compared to a 2.0L car

dis detuned 2.0L turbo car, consumers are paying the road tax of a 2.0L car, then pay for the maintenance of a turbo car, while getting a performance just slightly higher than a 2.0L NA car laugh.gif

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post Jan 19 2020, 04:03 PM

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156 macam my Pug308

Hopefully its not using Prince engine.
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post Jan 19 2020, 04:07 PM

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156Hp

Lel defak


Cx3 Skyactiv 2.0 NA also 154BHP

And this is a tebo... Memalukan
Whoever buy this really sheep aiming for the badge n ugly kidney grill
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post Jan 19 2020, 04:10 PM

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QUOTE(teehk_tee @ Jan 19 2020, 04:07 PM)
156Hp

Lel defak
Cx3 Skyactiv 2.0 NA also 154BHP

And this is a tebo... Memalukan
Whoever buy this really sheep aiming for the badge n ugly kidney grill
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mazda 3 skyactiv 163BHP bro laugh.gif
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QUOTE(rooney723 @ Jan 19 2020, 04:01 PM)
but the slight performance gain in torque of this 2.0 turbo over a 2.0L NA engine canot justify the cost of maintaining a turbo car la, consumers have to bear the full costs of maintaining a turbo car (which is higher than NA cars) while getting a very small gain of performance over a 2.0L NA car

they might as well put a 1.5L turbo engine in and get this kind of performance, at least consumers can save on the road tax compared to a 2.0L car

dis detuned 2.0L turbo car, consumers are paying the road tax of a 2.0L car, then pay for the maintenance of a turbo car, while getting a performance just slightly higher than a 2.0L NA car laugh.gif
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N minus NA reliability
Put in turbo charge to get same power like NA
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QUOTE(rooney723 @ Jan 19 2020, 04:10 PM)
mazda 3 skyactiv 163BHP bro laugh.gif
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Suit those property/insu agent want to show up in Beemer n get sales lel
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QUOTE(jasonlim @ Jan 19 2020, 04:16 PM)
N minus NA reliability
Put in turbo charge to get same power like NA
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IINM BMW no longer have NA engine in production so that's why they put this detuned 2.0 turbo in 318i. If put B38 1.5L 3 cylinder turbo later pipu complain too mush vibrations lah, unrefined lah
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QUOTE(teehk_tee @ Jan 19 2020, 04:22 PM)
Suit those property/insu agent want to show up in Beemer n get sales lel
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client see 318 terus run away
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post Jan 19 2020, 04:27 PM

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QUOTE(rooney723 @ Jan 19 2020, 03:29 PM)
yeah this will be great to those who like modding their cars to unlock the full potential of this engine

but what about those who dont mod their cars or those who oni buy this car to drive from point A to point B and dont care about those potential performance gain of the engine? this detuned 2.0L turbo engine is producing just slightly more torque than a 2.0L NA engine and producing the same hp as a 2.0L NA engine, if like dis they might as well remove the turbo and make it NA, cos no point putting a turbo in for this kind of performance output, consumers also have to consider the costs to maintain a turbo car (such as using fully synthetic oil) and the turbocharger itself (turbo will wear n tear)
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You know that NA engines have low torque in the low-end RPMs right?

QUOTE(rooney723 @ Jan 19 2020, 04:01 PM)
but the slight performance gain in torque of this 2.0 turbo over a 2.0L NA engine canot justify the cost of maintaining a turbo car la, consumers have to bear the full costs of maintaining a turbo car (which is higher than NA cars) while getting a very small gain of performance over a 2.0L NA car

they might as well put a 1.5L turbo engine in and get this kind of performance, at least consumers can save on the road tax compared to a 2.0L car

dis detuned 2.0L turbo car, consumers are paying the road tax of a 2.0L car, then pay for the maintenance of a turbo car, while getting a performance just slightly higher than a 2.0L NA car laugh.gif
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What do you mean maintaining a turbo car? BMW comes with 5 years warranty, if you want to tune it up, add things into the car, this is not for you, at least not brand new

No replacement for displacement. 1.5 turbo would have a different torque and power curve to that of a 2.0 turbo. It pains to see people disregarding torque curves when discussing engines, its like they would constantly run their cars at peak performance; maybe they do, in which case, again BMW isn't for you at least not these entry level ones. Go buy those sushi and kimchis and tune and upgrade the hardware so you can match a 330i performance and feel like you have "made it"

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QUOTE(kkk8787 @ Jan 19 2020, 04:25 PM)
client see 318 terus run away
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Reverse parking cover the badge

The pray no one see it is 318i and kena call waterfish
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QUOTE(rooney723 @ Jan 19 2020, 04:01 PM)
but the slight performance gain in torque of this 2.0 turbo over a 2.0L NA engine canot justify the cost of maintaining a turbo car la, consumers have to bear the full costs of maintaining a turbo car (which is higher than NA cars) while getting a very small gain of performance over a 2.0L NA car

they might as well put a 1.5L turbo engine in and get this kind of performance, at least consumers can save on the road tax compared to a 2.0L car

dis detuned 2.0L turbo car, consumers are paying the road tax of a 2.0L car, then pay for the maintenance of a turbo car, while getting a performance just slightly higher than a 2.0L NA car laugh.gif
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Well... There's another issue: road tax.

I always thought car manufacturers going to smaller capacity (but with turbo) engines were deiven by the tax laws... I mean, to get the cars into the lower tax bracket.

I agree, from the tax perspective, should've gone with 1.5L turbo with the same performance numbers, or thereabouts.

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