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> Qn for chinese ppl: Should dialects be preserved?

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blanket84
post Jan 18 2020, 08:58 AM

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QUOTE(changejob @ Jan 18 2020, 01:18 AM)
What you said make sense.

But let take that logic further. Why must we even use Mandarin then? Why not just use English, as English is already the lingua franca of the world?

If you say Mandarin is Chinese identity, many of our ancestor couldn't speak Mandarin. Mandarin is not their language. Their identity is the Chinese language/dialects.
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This kind of statement makes me confuse. Is Mandarin you ancestor’s language or not?

Because when i debated in SJKC thread, i said leave the job of memperkasakan mandarin to PRC because that is their national language, people come and tell me that mandarin in the language of malaysian chinese ancestor’s and we must preserved that. But again all of my chinese friend and colleague who went to SK can’t speak mandarin and only speak their family’s dialect at home and with their friend who share the same dialect.

So the question now, how significant is mandarin according to history of chinese migrating to kepulauan melayu?
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post Jan 18 2020, 09:13 AM

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QUOTE(squarepilot @ Jan 18 2020, 09:03 AM)
not significant

my grandmum can't even speak mandarin

mandarin is a language for communication

those idiot chinese racist know shit! biggrin.gif
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If mandarin isn’t your ancestor’s language, why people die die want Malaysian to accept mandarin as part of their culture’s history?

And if most malaysian chinese can’t communicate in mandarin by default, why force them to learn mandarin when we already have BM and English as communication language.

Most of my non-mandarin speaking friends speaks english or BM among themselves when they meet people who speak different dialect then theirs.
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post Jan 18 2020, 02:55 PM

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QUOTE(changejob @ Jan 18 2020, 01:36 PM)
My grandfather who literally came from China on a boat can't speak Mandarin.
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What dialect does he speak? So chinese of which part of malaysia actually originally speaks mandarin?

Since you mentioned that now i recall that my great grandmother who is 2nd generation off the boat never speak any chinese dialect at all with her kids, well because she married a malay sweat.gif
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post Jan 18 2020, 03:15 PM

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QUOTE(candidman78 @ Jan 18 2020, 03:05 PM)
Mandarin is not the only ancestors language.
Dialect word (if still exists) is its even closer to ancestors of ancestors.

There is a said Chinese is a continuous civilization since 5000yrs ago.  Mandarin today if not mistaken start popular during Qing Dynasty. But dialect is way before.
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If that’s the case, why malaysian like to associate Mandarin with their ancestor’s cultural heritage when their ancestor have no business with mandarin?

Which part of malaysia the ancestors came off the boat speaking mandarin btw?

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