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 Diamond ring, GIA cert vs In house cert vs No cert

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kambingkoh
post Jan 18 2020, 06:23 PM

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QUOTE(bowl @ Jan 17 2020, 11:43 PM)
Dear all sifu,

Recently i am doing survey on proposal diamond ring (white good). I found that have 3 types of ring
1.) Ring with GIA certificate
2.) Ring with diamond shop in house certificate
3.) Ring without certificate

Here is my few question
1.) It is true the ring with certificate is so important?
2.) If i buy ring without certificate it is very likely the diamond spec show by the shop will be not accurate and also high chance will be get cheated by the shop?
2.) If i buy ring without certificate from reputable shop such as Wah chan or lazo diamond? It is more safe?

My budget is tight only around 2.5k. I really hope all sifu can give me advice. If certificate is really that important i will go for it. Thank you.
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Buying a diamond with reputable cert is highly recommended. There are cases whereby a diamond is few grades away from what would other reputable labs grade it.

Alternatively, I know that The Gem Tribe can source diamond without cert based on her own expertise. She is a GIA certified gemologist.

Perhaps you can also try Lavin New York. I cannot say how good their diamonds are buy they are certainly GIA graded. Their price are cheap. Google them.
kambingkoh
post May 26 2020, 05:17 PM

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QUOTE(dodoodooo @ May 25 2020, 11:00 PM)
Sifu kambingkoh,
what about forevermark cert, is it ok? compare to GIA cert from WC, is it ok?
bc i read from google, some article from US mentioned forevermark cert is biased bc they grade their own diamond.
unline GIA cert which is more objective.
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First of all, anything online, take it with a pinch of salt, including mine. It is wise to consume and analyse what makes sense to you, and what not. After a few years looking at diamonds, I think different people has different preferences. Some prefer brand, while some prefer value. But it is always good to go online to research abit. smile.gif

Anyway, you have asked the same question at the other thread, i have answered you there.

This post has been edited by kambingkoh: May 26 2020, 05:28 PM
kambingkoh
post Jul 27 2020, 10:03 PM

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QUOTE(kdr93 @ Jul 27 2020, 10:43 AM)
Hi, sorry to jump in, just wanna tumpang tanya,

Has anyone had experience buying lab grown diamond, from my research it seems to be priced below actual diamonds, yet have the same qualities.

My lady is fine with lab grown, but ironically i am not convinced 😅

Are there any reputable jewellers in Malaysia that carry lab grown diamonds?

Thanks everyone for your reply.
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It is basically diamond. Same thing, just from lab, not from earth. The main argue point is the "history" of the diamond that makes it meaningful, some value it, so don't bother, so it is up to individual.

Lab grown can be found at Love & Co, Gordon Max, Ministry of Diamond. Just google them.

If your lady is fine, then why not?
kambingkoh
post Jul 28 2020, 03:00 AM

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QUOTE(kdr93 @ Jul 28 2020, 01:39 AM)
Thank you for your reply.

I did look through some articles and examples, but some mentioned it does not come with certifications. My only concern is that we might be not be getting a 'real' diamond wihtout those certificates to verify.
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I am rather confident that you will get a real diamond despite no certification. Just that what they claim may not be what it is when it comes to 4Cs.

Or you can check out online like BrilliantEarth. if my memory serves me well, one of the forumers actually bought from them. I think their diamonds come with IGI cert (not too sure).

 

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