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mushigen
post Jan 17 2020, 09:15 PM

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QUOTE(Stigonboard @ Jan 17 2020, 03:32 PM)
They allow turn if no traffic even tho light is red

Most likely due to kiasu culture want to beat traffic and arrive faster

Or their gov sneaky way to reduce island population
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This is incorrect. Red light means stop, for right turning vehicles.
You probably konfius it with "no green arrow also can turn".
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post Jan 17 2020, 11:07 PM

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QUOTE(Stigonboard @ Jan 17 2020, 10:31 PM)
They can turn right even during red light as long they stop first and asses the traffic

It is called descretionary right turn but due to high accidents most or the road is replaced by Green Arrows but this will only enforced in 5 years time
SINGAPORE – The Land Transport Authority (LTA) is doing away with "discretionary" right turns at traffic junctions where feasible and, in five years, most junctions will allow motorists to make right turns only when the green arrow signal appears.
Read more at https://www.todayonline.com/singapore/motor...ons-5-years-lta
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For right turn, red means cannot turn at all lah. Refer to the link you gave. I reproduce for your convenience. Sendiri post link, sendiri tak baca

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post Jan 17 2020, 11:08 PM

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No wonder Malaysian drivers find it dangerous. Red pun can turn right? Since when?

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post Jan 17 2020, 11:31 PM

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QUOTE(Theoutspokenguy @ Jan 17 2020, 11:19 PM)
Because sinchiapore practice all car got cam so I think is fair if no car redlight can go. I  Malaysia damn sohail  no car also wait until green ppl start beat traffic.
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Red light means cannot turn right. Don't listen to those ignorant people here who create own rules.
Discretionary right turn means the round green light is on (traffic going straight can move) but green right arrow is not on yet. If no oncoming car or adjacent got no pedestrians, you can turn right.

The advantage of this system is it allows traffic from both directions to move, only those turning right must practise discretionary turn or wait for green arrow.

When green arrow is not on and the round red light is on, both traffic going straight and turning right must stop.
In example below, you can only turn right when green arrow is on, because the round red is on. When the green arrow is off (no red arrow here) and red light is on, you must not turn.

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post Jan 18 2020, 10:23 AM

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QUOTE(Stigonboard @ Jan 18 2020, 09:22 AM)
That is NEW regulation and only added in the last two years

Previously you can turn right on RED

I grow up in SG by the way
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Just added two years ago? Wrong again. Again, red means stop. Your own link already proved you wrong.

You grew up in Sin and yet you don't know the traffic rules? Not surprising if you don't have a licence or you don't drive.

If you have other proof of "red can turn right", or the so-called change 2 years ago, please share. Else, we'll just stop here.

QUOTE(zeroty @ Jan 18 2020, 09:42 AM)
Wrong.

U can never turn right on red. Never was.

Discretionary right turn is when U can turn right on green w/o arrow, but have to watch out for ongoing vehicle.
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Exactly.

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post Jan 18 2020, 10:35 AM

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QUOTE(Stigonboard @ Jan 18 2020, 10:28 AM)
Ok this is years ago when im a school so i guess i confused my memory with descritionary left turn on red

Ma bad
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No worries, glad we sorted this out.

Descretionary left turns are not that many in Singapore. There is always a clear sign that says "turn left on red" or something like that. Meaning you cannot suka suka do descretionary left turn if there is no sign that says so, therefore it's less confusing. Macam U turn - one can only do U turn when you see the U turn sign.


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