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post Jan 16 2020, 02:10 PM, updated 6y ago

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Acting Education Minister Dr Mahathir Mohamad has opined that it is “not fair” for the government to provide free breakfast to those who can afford it.

“We will continue with the programme that we have now and focus on those who can’t afford to have breakfast.

“But to provide breakfast to all means that those who have money, who are rich and eat a lot at home will also get it.

“So this is not fair,” he said when door-stopped by the media after launching TNB’s Balai Islam Complex in Kuala Lumpur this morning.

The Supplementary Food Programme presently ongoing in primary schools is for students from rural areas and underprivileged backgrounds.

The Education Ministry previously announced that this initiative would be replaced with a free breakfast programme for all students regardless of their socio-economic background.

This was one of Maszlee Malik’s key decisions before he resigned as the minister on Jan 3 this year.

Asked today if the all-encompassing programme would roll out on Jan 20 as previously planned, the prime minister appeared to imply that it would but with added emphasis on needy pupils.

“We will continue with what we have now and we will add in those who deserve to have some support,” Mahathir said.

Malaysiakini is attempting to clarify the issue with the Education Ministry.

The first phase of the free breakfast programme is slated to roll out this coming Monday at 100 primary schools nationwide.

The schools were selected for their high number of students from B40 households.

The first phase is set to cost RM22 million and involve 37,000 pupils as well as 1,600 teachers.



Mustapa has experience

Mahathir also defended the appointment of former international trade and industry minister Mustapa Mohamed as the new chairperson of Peneraju Agenda Bumiputra (Teraju).

“He has some experience.

“We have very few people with experience in the government and also outside (the government). So we need to have people with some experience,” he said when asked today.

Teraju is a government agency parked under the Economic Affairs Ministry tasked with spearheading economic participation by the bumiputera.

Mustapa, who is also the Jeli MP, left Umno to join Bersatu in October 2018.

During the BN administration, he was the international trade and industry minister for nine years from 2009 to 2018.

https://www.malaysiakini.com/news/507347
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post Jan 16 2020, 02:14 PM

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why not fair?

semua pay tax le
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post Jan 16 2020, 02:16 PM

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QUOTE(raynman @ Jan 16 2020, 02:10 PM)
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Acting Education Minister Dr Mahathir Mohamad has opined that it is “not fair” for the government to provide free breakfast to those who can afford it.

“We will continue with the programme that we have now and focus on those who can’t afford to have breakfast.

“But to provide breakfast to all means that those who have money, who are rich and eat a lot at home will also get it.

“So this is not fair,” he said when door-stopped by the media after launching TNB’s Balai Islam Complex in Kuala Lumpur this morning.

The Supplementary Food Programme presently ongoing in primary schools is for students from rural areas and underprivileged backgrounds.

The Education Ministry previously announced that this initiative would be replaced with a free breakfast programme for all students regardless of their socio-economic background.

This was one of Maszlee Malik’s key decisions before he resigned as the minister on Jan 3 this year.

Asked today if the all-encompassing programme would roll out on Jan 20 as previously planned, the prime minister appeared to imply that it would but with added emphasis on needy pupils.

“We will continue with what we have now and we will add in those who deserve to have some support,” Mahathir said.

Malaysiakini is attempting to clarify the issue with the Education Ministry.

The first phase of the free breakfast programme is slated to roll out this coming Monday at 100 primary schools nationwide.

The schools were selected for their high number of students from B40 households.

The first phase is set to cost RM22 million and involve 37,000 pupils as well as 1,600 teachers.
Mustapa has experience

Mahathir also defended the appointment of former international trade and industry minister Mustapa Mohamed as the new chairperson of Peneraju Agenda Bumiputra (Teraju).

“He has some experience.

“We have very few people with experience in the government and also outside (the government). So we need to have people with some experience,” he said when asked today.

Teraju is a government agency parked under the Economic Affairs Ministry tasked with spearheading economic participation by the bumiputera.

Mustapa, who is also the Jeli MP, left Umno to join Bersatu in October 2018.

During the BN administration, he was the international trade and industry minister for nine years from 2009 to 2018.

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Its bladdy unfair for the stupid government to use my tax money to feed those B40 that I doubt less than 50% of them pay tax
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post Jan 16 2020, 02:18 PM

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HAHAHAHAHHAHA

i already said this long time ago...many ktard marah me
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post Jan 16 2020, 02:18 PM

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Usually the free meal really basic one..
For those who get like rm10 allowance prefer buy their own food..

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post Jan 16 2020, 02:19 PM

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- work hard pay tax, no free breakfast
- lazy and avoid paying tax, free breakfast

Atuk always suka kasi tongkat. Bila nak teaching to fish?

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OK la, this free breakfast also not sure after eated will stomachache or not.
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post Jan 16 2020, 02:20 PM

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QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ Jan 16 2020, 02:14 PM)
why not fair?

semua pay tax le
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dude.

the government's secondary job is to take from the rich and give for the poor. because the rich will never help the poor because most of them are BBB's who lack empathy, and dont realise the danger. If you dont give to the poor, they will all go riot and destroy property. this is consistent across the world.
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post Jan 16 2020, 02:21 PM

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This mamak better step down.
pundek we all tax payer it should be FAIR to give everyone and unfair to only give selected party!
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post Jan 16 2020, 02:21 PM

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i thought it has been discussed before and the free meal is to emulate jepun and pupuk fairness socio economy.
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post Jan 16 2020, 02:21 PM

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So u gonna segregate the kids?

How they gonna face their friends? Sure kena ejek budak miskin. From young also get faced with harsh reality of tongkat and 'fairness'

Worst education minister

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post Jan 16 2020, 02:22 PM

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Haiz. Another u turn

Never ending u turn.

Can not count already.

Useless government
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post Jan 16 2020, 02:22 PM

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RViN nah on ur face ReWeR kan dulu i dah kata

see i told u before

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4829815/+40?...lee%20breakfast
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post Jan 16 2020, 02:23 PM

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Got money give all, no money dont implement. Why make it so complicated?

Tu bukan hal mati/hidup kan?
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post Jan 16 2020, 02:23 PM

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QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ Jan 16 2020, 02:14 PM)
why not fair?

semua pay tax le
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That's right. In fact the rich pay more tax.

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post Jan 16 2020, 02:25 PM

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he always like to say rich people don't deserve this or that like he got something against rich people. whistling.gif

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post Jan 16 2020, 02:26 PM

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come on la, we should treat our children all the same, why must separate rich children, poor children,
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Yay now everyone can have 5 children with 3K salary... Gov bagi makan pree... We must stay poor otherwise we won't qualify.
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post Jan 16 2020, 02:26 PM

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Who cares rich or not, just gives the breakfast to ensure they really have enough energy, nutrients and healthy diet.
Healthy body and healthy mind.
Some parents rich or not dont know the importance of breakfast.
They are our future, dont politicise them.

Gov trying to separate rich and poor kids? Segregation mindset.
Let all have it equal at school.

I think i saw in Japan or USA students lining up for breakfast/lunch. I think it is a good thing to have here.
Students hospitality.

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QUOTE(wkn @ Jan 16 2020, 02:25 PM)
he always like to say rich people don't deserve this or that like he got something against rich people.  whistling.gif
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His children are not exactly poor. tongue.gif

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suda lupa asb rich also get poor also get. why that one no say not fair? should only poor get it
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post Jan 16 2020, 02:29 PM

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y not fair?

the breakfast prolly bought by taxes paid by the rich
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post Jan 16 2020, 02:29 PM

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just had free lunch from RM30 e-tunai


very nice leh free meal biggrin.gif
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why is it that regulated, standardised, healthy food isn't for everybody?

then rich people should be rejected from public school la bodo
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post Jan 16 2020, 02:33 PM

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hmm.. on second thought.. maybe this is just prequel. later follow up say cina is rich so they kennot get free breakfast but melayu is poor ppl so they get it laugh.gif
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post Jan 16 2020, 02:48 PM

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stupid this mamakthir, give free food to kids also want to care about fair or not. yang anak die get free mountain for many years he x bising pulak

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org miskin tak bising u bising apa thanos
keep stirring shits some more
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QUOTE(Nachiino Etamay @ Jan 16 2020, 02:20 PM)
dude.

the government's secondary job is to take from the rich and give for the poor. because the rich will never help the poor because most of them are BBB's who lack empathy, and dont realise the danger. If you dont give to the poor, they will all go riot and destroy property. this is consistent across the world.
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What is BBB?
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buang maszlee, dapat madey.
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Another u turn
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post Jan 16 2020, 02:59 PM

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i agree on this one.
if you give out food to everyone there is gonna be wastage.
the more privilege ones will not eat the food as they have access to better meals.
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QUOTE(wkn @ Jan 16 2020, 02:25 PM)
he always like to say rich people don't deserve this or that like he got something against rich people.  whistling.gif
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Normally the Chinese who kena lo be it rich or not rich whistling.gif whistling.gif whistling.gif
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he doesn't let because wanna jaga hati crony lo
free breakfast means only need 1 vendor, canteen operator gg cannot hike price gao2
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already said just give food stamps to the poor will be enough. no need to find catering this and that, and then also audit this and that. cause unnecessary problems only.


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Some of you talk as if the rich want their child to eat the sub-par meal provided by the appointed gov contractor.

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post Jan 16 2020, 03:19 PM

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Macam program RMT je?
Or dah rebranded to free bfast?
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post Jan 16 2020, 03:23 PM

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old man want to songlap 1.6 billion project.
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rich how rich?? ini dah ketelaluan.. rich people got special que or not? people work so hard to pay tax and gov treat the rich as nothing. but those dato seri scam people money they don't go and catch
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QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ Jan 16 2020, 02:14 PM)
why not fair?

semua pay tax le
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this ^

some more the rich pay omre tax what
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Bagus. Byk lagi benda boleh buat dgn education budget.
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if its about education...please give to everyone. They are the future.

waste money on useless project like flying cars but carefully allocate budget to education?

Mazlee's only good move also got cancelled. GG PH.
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This one I really have to comment. Although I do roam around reading but rarely comment.

The rich pays more taxes. And the free breakfast is for kids and our country's future (next generation). How is it not acceptable to apply the free breakfast programme. Anyway, it's their parents' who are rich. Not the kids!

With this, I think it'll be better if we get a new Education Minister soon.
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QUOTE(ApocalypseSoon @ Jan 16 2020, 03:17 PM)
Some of you talk as if the rich want their child to eat the sub-par meal provided by the appointed gov contractor.
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For this, the parents, teachers and government have a role to play. We better make sure the contractor provide what's worth the money those meals are paid for. No more songlap-songlap.
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How rich can u be

To send your kid to SEK. KEBANGSAAN
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QUOTE(teehk_tee @ Jan 16 2020, 03:38 PM)
How rich can u be

To send your kid to SEK. KEBANGSAAN
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Rich enough to feed you kids breakfast.
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Better do not implement this program at all, problem solved.
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Both sides have a point

There isn't really a right or wrong in this
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QUOTE(GOPI56 @ Jan 16 2020, 03:43 PM)
Better do not implement this program at all, problem solved.
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QUOTE(blanket84 @ Jan 16 2020, 03:40 PM)
Rich enough to feed you kids breakfast.
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Then every parent in SK should be rich enough to feed their kids breakfast.

Either u do it or u don't. Not half baked
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QUOTE(kopihazelnut @ Jan 16 2020, 02:18 PM)
Usually the free meal really basic one..
For those who get like rm10 allowance prefer buy their own food..
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If got rm10 daily for fud, probly wont get anymo mani if deddinokasi.
If deddikasi jugak, can eat free at school n keep mani in tabung.
Can spend on anythin want later like belanja gerl or buy things.
Got oso can menabung like bikmama.
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Its not about free breakfast laaa

Its about given them the right type of nutrient for breakfast to the student. So they can become energetic and focus on study...

We makan nasi lemak pagi2 ..... after lunch sudah longlaiiiiii
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QUOTE(teehk_tee @ Jan 16 2020, 03:46 PM)
Then every parent in SK should be rich enough to feed their kids breakfast.

Either u do it or u don't. Not half baked
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Do you have any kids going to public school? Because it seems to me that you’re out of touch with the reality hmm.gif
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post Jan 16 2020, 03:53 PM

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Not fair to give luxury car to Gov.Official as well.
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post Jan 16 2020, 03:55 PM

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unfair to give free to the rich..

.. unless it's my crony.

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QUOTE(alextan99 @ Jan 16 2020, 02:16 PM)
Its bladdy unfair for the stupid government to use my tax money to feed those B40 that I doubt less than 50% of them pay tax
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Unfair to tax the rich so high tax rate. The rich also worked hard to become rich but the poor never bother to work hard at all.
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QUOTE(teehk_tee @ Jan 16 2020, 02:21 PM)
So u gonna segregate the kids?

How they gonna face their friends? Sure kena ejek budak miskin. From young also get faced with harsh reality of tongkat and 'fairness'

Worst education minister
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If that is the case. Parent are the one who need to be blamed. Don't know how to teach children.

When I was in primary school 25 years ago. Similar "free breakfast" is given by government.

We never ejek our friend that got the free breakfast.
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How they going to determine who is rich and who is poor?

If linked to LHDN then better. If not, good luck checking few thousand forms.
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if like that the next question is how u gonna determine the students are rich? how to obtain info? from parents? by wat means? how long can complete the data collection? what is the standard? how to ensure its accuracy? how bout implementation standard? if got wrong then how to rectify it???

mamakthir your word of mouth has raised so many questions on wat to do next
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just say la, cainis is rich, dun gip them breakfast. case closed
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Bagi kroni apamaciam tuk??? Fair ke???
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rather give my son with proper meal from home.. i cook myself also can..rather than seeing them feed with hotdog thing related
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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Jan 16 2020, 02:22 PM)
RViN nah on ur face ReWeR kan dulu i dah kata

see i told u before

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4829815/+40?...lee%20breakfast
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this not fair for me. I want my free morning roti bakar also.
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unfair? rich ppl dont pay tax is it
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Those in /k whining "HURR DURR WE PAY TAXES, WE SHOULD BE INCLUDED", are I guess sheltered enough not to know the nature of this program.

Its not like they are serving KFC or Nando's to those poor kids every morning. Usually its just barely fitting of being called 'food', because the budget used by the contractors are so skimped, and kids from rich families wouldnt eat them because they are nowhere near the quality they are used to at home. What will happen instead is wastage, as the portion rejected by the kids will be just thrown away.

And then there is this issue of the government actually allocating enough fund for these programs to afford the kids more than pitiful excuse for 'food', but the fund is usually squandered first by middlemen and the contractors themselves, as shown by them having shiny new imported cars just weeks after being awarded the contract while the kids only eat white rice and a halfcut piece of hotdog with plain soup.

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QUOTE(jamilselamat @ Jan 16 2020, 04:49 PM)
Those in /k whining "HURR DURR WE PAY TAXES, WE SHOULD BE INCLUDED", are I guess sheltered enough not to know the nature of this program.

Its not like they are serving KFC or Nando's to those poor kids every morning. Usually its just barely fitting of being called 'food', because the budget used by the contractors are so skimped, and kids from rich families wouldnt eat them because they are nowhere near the quality they are used to at home. What will happen instead is wastage, as the portion rejected by the kids will be just thrown away.

And then there is this issue of the government actually allocating enough fund for these programs to afford the kids more than pitiful excuse for 'food', but the fund is usually squandered first by middlemen and the contractors themselves, as shown by them having shiny new imported cars just weeks after being awarded the contract while the kids only eat white rich and a halfcut piece of hotdog with plain soup.
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This one I really have to comment. Although I do roam around reading but rarely comment.

The rich pays more taxes. And the free breakfast is for kids and our country's future (next generation). How is it not acceptable to apply the free breakfast programme. Anyway, it's their parents' who are rich. Not the kids!

With this, I think it'll be better if we get a new Education Minister soon.
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He sounds like only poor people paying taxes..
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The point is to have kids all walks of live to sit and eating together the same meals. Dah lah kids are segregated by ethnicity now want to segregate because their parents rich or poor pulak.
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QUOTE(jamilselamat @ Jan 16 2020, 04:49 PM)
Those in /k whining "HURR DURR WE PAY TAXES, WE SHOULD BE INCLUDED", are I guess sheltered enough not to know the nature of this program.

Its not like they are serving KFC or Nando's to those poor kids every morning. Usually its just barely fitting of being called 'food', because the budget used by the contractors are so skimped, and kids from rich families wouldnt eat them because they are nowhere near the quality they are used to at home. What will happen instead is wastage, as the portion rejected by the kids will be just thrown away.

And then there is this issue of the government actually allocating enough fund for these programs to afford the kids more than pitiful excuse for 'food', but the fund is usually squandered first by middlemen and the contractors themselves, as shown by them having shiny new imported cars just weeks after being awarded the contract while the kids only eat white rice and a halfcut piece of hotdog with plain soup.
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Agreed. This is what I see in boarding schools where the foods are free.

Mahathir probably know this first hand because he is rich and got rich kid.

Tho sometimes the rich kid will still eat together with us all so we bonded more that way. Compared to RMT in SK, I never seen RMT people eat together with normal people during recess.
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How would they distinguish between those that need or don't need?
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QUOTE(blanket84 @ Jan 16 2020, 03:51 PM)
Do you have any kids going to public school? Because it seems to me that you’re out of touch with the reality hmm.gif
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The point is to eat together on the same table.
U can call other people names in the process of defending the indefensible but that merely reflects on yourself.
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come on la, we should treat our children all the same, why must separate rich children, poor children,
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Based on my experience on free food in boarding school

B40 and M40 loves free food. Only T20 kids get so much allowance that they can just buy expensive lunch in cafe and order food at night from outside restaurant

The one that lost in this u-turn is m40 kids. B40 still get their RMT and T20 just don't care anyway


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How would they distinguish between those that need or don't need?
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QUOTE(Imp Bron @ Jan 16 2020, 05:04 PM)
Based on my experience on free food in boarding school

B40 and M40 loves free food. Only T20 kids get so much allowance that they can just buy expensive lunch in cafe and order food at night from outside restaurant

The one that lost in this u-turn is m40 kids. B40 still get their RMT and T20 just don't care anyway
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QUOTE(teehk_tee @ Jan 16 2020, 05:02 PM)
The point is to eat together on the same table.
U can call other people names in the process of defending the indefensible but that merely reflects on yourself.
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Which part did i call names? Why is everyone easily triggered nowadays? hmm.gif

Just introduce coupon system to the poor and everyone can eat together at the same table.

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separating children and decide who is rich enough is also not free.
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Better don’t eat free food. Their free food high calories and carb.
their free food used a lot of cheap flour and rice. If they provide hot dog bun, that hot dog processed using chicken carcass and fats. If those free syrup water they gave, it’s loaded with high glucose and substances . It’s not chemical free and when the child became obese in future, Salahan LGE . Fat people go hospital, siapa yg kaya? BN cronies.
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Unfair to give to rich children, but fair to tax them.
KNN just implement the GST then everyone also kena then can implement breakfast to all children.
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Why are 1,600 TEACHERS given free breakfast as well? unsure.gif
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Rich pays more tax, but it's unfair to spend tax money on the rich.

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QUOTE(jamilselamat @ Jan 16 2020, 04:49 PM)
Those in /k whining "HURR DURR WE PAY TAXES, WE SHOULD BE INCLUDED", are I guess sheltered enough not to know the nature of this program.

Its not like they are serving KFC or Nando's to those poor kids every morning. Usually its just barely fitting of being called 'food', because the budget used by the contractors are so skimped, and kids from rich families wouldnt eat them because they are nowhere near the quality they are used to at home. What will happen instead is wastage, as the portion rejected by the kids will be just thrown away.

And then there is this issue of the government actually allocating enough fund for these programs to afford the kids more than pitiful excuse for 'food', but the fund is usually squandered first by middlemen and the contractors themselves, as shown by them having shiny new imported cars just weeks after being awarded the contract while the kids only eat white rice and a halfcut piece of hotdog with plain soup.
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Thanks for admitting that mahaitiu is using rich taxpayer money to buy votes from the impoverished.
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Unfair to give special discount when buying house for the rich bila?
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QUOTE(darkhunter16 @ Jan 16 2020, 04:54 PM)
He sounds like only poor people paying taxes..
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a lot of things can sound wrong if there not enough research,time and thinking when implementing something....this is among the thing PH failed many many times....announce, if positive proceed,if negative then u turn and claim mendengar komen raykat....

time to sit at meeting and think very very hard how govt will run and not doing it based on impulse or worse decision based on troll by najib and co...
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Student A:Tengok, I dapat free sarapan pagi. U tak de.

Student B: u orang miskin, tentu la dapat.

There you go, segregation happen right at student level. Teach them at the young age. Well done.
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Failure Mentality.

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QUOTE(RViN @ Jan 16 2020, 04:46 PM)
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other countries pay tax for better healthcare, better education etc. to all regardless..

but here we don't get that because "it's not fair" habis tu bayar tax untuk apa bai?

baik aku migrate and kerja obersea macam ni... walaupun tax tinggi at least its "fair"

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QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ Jan 16 2020, 02:14 PM)
why not fair?

semua pay tax le
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really tua kutuk.
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Although is unfair for the rich. But using back the old coupon system is better.
Orang Kaya sangat cerewet....and our economy is not good.
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Rich pays more tax, but it's unfair to spend tax money on the rich.

When is this old fart going to die?
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QUOTE(alextan99 @ Jan 16 2020, 02:16 PM)
Its bladdy unfair for the stupid government to use my tax money to feed those B40 that I doubt less than 50% of them pay tax
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QUOTE(fluotone @ Jan 16 2020, 08:02 PM)
other countries pay tax for better healthcare, better education etc. to all regardless..

but here we don't get that because "it's not fair" habis tu bayar tax untuk apa bai?

baik aku migrate and kerja obersea macam ni... walaupun tax tinggi at least its "fair"
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I guess we are not taxing the people high enough to be “fair”. We should start increasing the income tax to the level of other developed country so that the govt can practice fairness.
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HAHAHAHAHHAHA

i already said this long time ago...many ktard marah me
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True also... back then when i was in secondary... canteen cheap food mostly kinda crap... instead climb over back wall to go outside eat expensive food instead
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QUOTE(Nachiino Etamay @ Jan 16 2020, 02:20 PM)
dude.

the government's secondary job is to take from the rich and give for the poor. because the rich will never help the poor because most of them are BBB's who lack empathy, and dont realise the danger. If you dont give to the poor, they will all go riot and destroy property. this is consistent across the world.
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QUOTE(blanket84 @ Jan 16 2020, 08:13 PM)
I guess we are not taxing the people high enough to be “fair”. We should start increasing the income tax to the level of other developed country so that the govt can practice fairness.
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That sounds like communism with extra steps.
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Sure do shit like this never change, will always go backward as long as he around


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Sekejap anti-poor.

Now anti-rich.


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QUOTE(delon85 @ Jan 16 2020, 08:24 PM)
That sounds like communism with extra steps.
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Why? Everyone here is talking about fairness. I am just suggesting an idea to satisfy everyone.
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QUOTE(lostxkitten @ Jan 16 2020, 02:26 PM)
Who cares rich or not, just gives the breakfast to ensure they really have enough energy, nutrients and healthy diet.
Healthy body and healthy mind.
Some parents rich or not dont know the importance of breakfast.
They are our future, dont politicise them.

Gov trying to separate rich and poor kids? Segregation mindset.
Let all have it equal at school.

I think i saw in Japan or USA students lining up for breakfast/lunch. I think it is a good thing to have here.
Students hospitality.
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the old guy wanted to be minister last time he failed. appointed a successor who he knew will screw it up. in the end he became minister again and nobody bring up PH manifesto. I think all kids should get a nutritious start of the day.
If it is segregation mindset, where else is the best place to start ingraining the mindset while they are still in school. The haves and have nots. His mindset of people dont deserve can be applied to other fields too. What if one day he decides other races dont deserve free stuff like education and medical? It tell you a lot about him
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QUOTE(Nachiino Etamay @ Jan 16 2020, 02:20 PM)
dude.

the government's secondary job is to take from the rich and give for the poor. because the rich will never help the poor because most of them are BBB's who lack empathy, and dont realise the danger. If you dont give to the poor, they will all go riot and destroy property. this is consistent across the world.
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If it is truly the rich, then of course they have no problems.

But there people who don't have enough to be called rich but also have more than those who are truly poor.
So they end up between a rock and a hard place laugh.gif
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Thanks for admitting that mahaitiu is using rich taxpayer money to buy votes from the impoverished.
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I didnt say anything about buying votes from the impoverished. Thats just basic quality of life assistance that any government concerned with their people would do, you piece of shit.

Dont put words in my mouth.
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How ironic for PM talking about

Fairness in Malaysia? Really?

O he is talking about food not education? Which state got 400 millions donations again?

Meanwhile in other state,
https://www.worldofbuzz.com/sabah-students-...chool-everyday/

https://www.worldofbuzz.com/6yo-malaysian-g...me-from-school/

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QUOTE(fluotone @ Jan 16 2020, 08:02 PM)
other countries pay tax for better healthcare, better education etc. to all regardless..

but here we don't get that because "it's not fair" habis tu bayar tax untuk apa bai?

baik aku migrate and kerja obersea macam ni... walaupun tax tinggi at least its "fair"
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Healthcare charges are the same in government hospitals where the tax money are channeled.

Its rich fucks like you who tend to choose private hospitals instead. And when they think that you'll die no matter what they do, they'll dump you back at the government hospitals because their KPI is more important than your life.
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QUOTE(bill11 @ Jan 16 2020, 05:38 PM)
Unfair to give to rich children, but fair to tax them.
KNN just implement the GST then everyone also kena then can implement breakfast to all children.
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Of course, as if the government arent already being very lenient to the rich.

Zero capital gains tax.
Zero inheritance tax.
Zero tax for selling property after cooldown period ends.

What more do you sheltered people want?

The only victims in this policy are the kids from the lower middle class.
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Whose fucking idea to give breakfast to all at first place?
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QUOTE(jamilselamat @ Jan 16 2020, 09:36 PM)
Of course, as if the government arent already being very lenient to the rich.

Zero capital gains tax.
Zero inheritance tax.
Zero tax for selling property after cooldown period ends.

What more do you sheltered people want?

The only victims in this policy are the kids from the lower middle class.
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Inheritance tax = 0
Ur father sell all his assets to u for RM 10

Panai x?

Owai
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Inheritance tax = 0
Ur father sell all his assets to u for RM 10

Panai x?

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Instead of your father setting the price, there would be a third party appraiser that will evaluate the value of the inheritance and charge accordingly, IF the government wants to be serious about it.
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QUOTE(jamilselamat @ Jan 16 2020, 09:43 PM)
Instead of your father setting the price, there would be a third party appraiser that will evaluate the value of the inheritance and charge accordingly, IF the government wants to be serious about it.
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Can't
Assets belongs to the father, father set the value... All settle internally without interference from outside

If government wanna interfere, negara communist will be formed
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It's fine helping the poor, but they are not helping themselves. Keep on breeding until 12 kids, drags kids along to beg for donations, let the kids roam free jadi mat lajak without any discipline, etc.

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Should just give bfast to bumi. Non bumi always sibuk and fight with bumi for everything.

Right right right?

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QUOTE(Henry T @ Jan 16 2020, 02:24 PM)
That's right. In fact the rich pay more tax.
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yes but the poor work hard everyday...

you.. me everyday stuck on jam. to go to work.. just to make sure economy keep on moving
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QUOTE(Nachiino Etamay @ Jan 16 2020, 02:20 PM)
dude.

the government's secondary job is to take from the rich and give for the poor. because the rich will never help the poor because most of them are BBB's who lack empathy, and dont realise the danger. If you dont give to the poor, they will all go riot and destroy property. this is consistent across the world.
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Yeah, a commie govt's job.

Rich will never help the poor? Please, the rich has helped the poor more than any govt la. Who do you think create jobs?

QUOTE(jamilselamat @ Jan 16 2020, 09:27 PM)
I didnt say anything about buying votes from the impoverished. Thats just basic quality of life assistance that any government concerned with their people would do, you piece of shit.

Dont put words in my mouth.
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QUOTE(lilostitch @ Jan 16 2020, 10:29 PM)
yes but the poor work hard everyday...

you.. me everyday stuck on jam. to go to work.. just to make sure economy keep on moving
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Yes, we do our part for the sake of family and country. smile.gif

Unfortunately that is not good enough for the politicians. They want to be "batu api" to make the people hate and fight each other.
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I remember in the 90s there is this programme where students from low income family can apply for free daily meal in my school.

What happened to that programme?
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QUOTE(Imp Bron @ Jan 16 2020, 04:55 PM)
Agreed. This is what I see in boarding schools where the foods are free.

Mahathir probably know this first hand because he is rich and got rich kid.

Tho sometimes the rich kid will still eat together with us all so we bonded more that way. Compared to RMT in SK, I never seen RMT people eat together with normal people during recess.
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Heyyyyy boarding school kena bayar la. Rates depend on the status. I can't remember the exact amount. At my school back then, low income needs to pay RM4 while high income RM7 per day
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QUOTE(MAGAMan-X @ Jan 16 2020, 10:55 PM)
Yeah, a commie govt's job.

Rich will never help the poor? Please, the rich has helped the poor more than any govt la. Who do you think create jobs?
He's implementing a populist public policy, at the expense of the better earners, and there's an agenda behind it. Don't tell me he's doing it for altruistic reason, because everyone knows mahaitiu is anything but.
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thats not enough.

remember, ALL governments, the government take from the rich and give to the poor

look at europe, us, japan. you tax the rich. then you give $$ to the poor. even US has food coupons

Remember, if you dont do this, the poor people will go riot big time and kill the rich and do damage. Look at all those smokers and weed eaters and car drivers. these people are violent and stressed. if they dont have a job, they will burn everything down as they are psycopathic
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hahaha you guys talking about fairness
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QUOTE(KeyMochi @ Jan 16 2020, 06:26 PM)
racing then butthurt report lmao
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Itu memang fakta
Tapi byk pulak report post saya

Msia memang Ada category
Bumi dan non bumi
Memang Ada
Special right, khas untuk bumi sahaja

Butthurt pulak report
Saya hanya bagi fakta yg betul wujud. Bukan fitnah, bukan palsu
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Discount rumah still ok?
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TS got some point..... its not nice to distinguish and differentiate the rich and poor at Primary Schools......they are only 7 years old !!!
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QUOTE(etan26 @ Jan 17 2020, 09:20 AM)
Discount rumah still ok?
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This is another thing. They should stop giving bumi discount. Instead replace them with income level discount open to all parties. And limit the discount to certain house price only. Say 400k and below for KV and Penang, and 200k and below for all other areas.

I cannot brain giving discount to rich malays rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(Nachiino Etamay @ Jan 17 2020, 08:47 AM)
thats not enough.

remember, ALL governments, the government take from the rich and give to the poor

look at europe, us, japan. you tax the rich. then you give $$ to the poor. even US has food coupons

Remember, if you dont do this, the poor people will go riot big time and kill the rich and do damage. Look at all those smokers and weed eaters and car drivers. these people are violent and stressed. if they dont have a job, they will burn everything down as they are psycopathic
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That's misrepresentation and a complete abuse of context. No, NOT all govt tax the rich and give to the poor. The US govt that give food coupons to the poor taxes BOTH the rich and poor alike. And they give back to BOTH the rich and poor.

Only commie/socialist govts tax the rich and give to poor, until everyone is equally poor, and that's what happens to ALL countries that practices this.
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ppl rich, pay more tax la... why not entitled?
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as parents, well life is unfair, but then I really don't mind just allowing those cannot afford free breakfast.

At least we'll build up a generation of ok ok physique... else semua kurus kering and no muscle..how to export become maid>?
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QUOTE(WannaGetBuffed @ Jan 16 2020, 08:30 PM)
Already know la this thanos

Sure do shit like this never change, will always go backward as long as he around
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Semua bayar tax. The rich pay even more tax. Shouldn’t everyone be entitled?
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Unfair get money for decades..
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Being rich seem like a sin..u get penalised for not being poor

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Lol at some of the replies here.

Here’s a reality check for you:
Do you think that rich parents would want their kids to eat cheap budget food for breakfast? Cheap hotdogs? Lol
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QUOTE(G_KeN @ Jan 17 2020, 03:15 PM)
Lol at some of the replies here.

Here’s a reality check for you:
Do you think that rich parents would want their kids to eat cheap budget food for breakfast? Cheap hotdogs? Lol
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You mean narcissists? Whatever they doing sending their kids to gov schools anyway. Lol.
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So whats the difference compared to BN era?
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But tongkat to 1 single race regardless of poor or rich jelas ok jer...
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Madey reasoning is right. Why shud rich be entitled to more free privileges just because they pay more tax?

They may pay more tax but they also can afford much better food and are usually healthier and live longer.

The poor can only afford motorbike or buruk car and chances to get fatal accident is much higher. They have shorter lifespan and poorer health.....
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QUOTE(alextan99 @ Jan 16 2020, 02:16 PM)
Its bladdy unfair for the stupid government to use my tax money to feed those B40 that I doubt less than 50% of them pay tax
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as much as we may hate it, its the government's money, we relinquished ownership of that money once we pay it to LHDN as taxes

if it is really our money, then we should be able to get it back by writing to LHDN, which we surely cant
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like that it is unfair for rich people to pay higher tax also.
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QUOTE(alextan99 @ Jan 16 2020, 02:16 PM)
Its bladdy unfair for the stupid government to use my tax money to feed those B40 that I doubt less than 50% of them pay tax
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Its how the world works

If the poor left starving they cant work and if they cant work they dont have money to spent on your business

Worst they will become robbers and rapist

Or fall sick and spread illness

Think big la dey
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QUOTE(Hobbez @ Jan 17 2020, 03:26 PM)
Madey reasoning is right. Why shud rich be entitled to more free privileges just because they pay more tax?

They may pay more tax but they also can afford much better food and are usually healthier and live longer.

The poor can only afford motorbike or buruk car and chances to get fatal accident is much higher. They have shorter lifespan and poorer health.....
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Yes, chances of fatal accident caused by poor people is higher, which endangered rich people's life.


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Can use this justification for NEP also?

Rich people shouldn't get anymore tongkat , the tongkat should give to poorer bumi so more of them can be helped.
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Lel, the policy is a joke. Instead pouring those money to profit those contractor, cnt use it for other country development ?
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QUOTE(mojojojoseph @ Jan 17 2020, 12:50 PM)
Semua bayar tax. The rich pay even more tax. Shouldn’t everyone be entitled?
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and the rich drive luxury cars, stay at bungalows, every year go overseas for holiday, stay at 5 star hotel, sit business class on flights, dine at fancy restaurants.....

so what more entitlement do they need or want?
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then can rich people pay lower income tax?

how much that rich kid can eat? even provide free meal, that rich kid might not eating it.. stupid old man..
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QUOTE(mojojojoseph @ Jan 17 2020, 12:50 PM)
Semua bayar tax. The rich pay even more tax. Shouldn’t everyone be entitled?
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Yes the rich do pay more taxes, but they also enjoy a lot of privileges from the govt that the poor community do not get.

I think the key point here is effective fund distribution by the govt to ensure equality of outcome. Providing free breakfast only to the poor students is fair, because students who's family can afford breakfasts should be able to provide them with breakfasts without requiring assistance from the govt. And imagine this, the funds saved by only providing free breakfast and nutrition to the poor (this could be in the billions), it can be used in other sectors to benefit all Malaysians as a whole, for example improving the healthcare system, improving infrastructure, combating crime, etc etc.

I don't think the role of the govt is to distribute funds equally to each and every single Malaysian citizen. That would be dumb. Their role is to allocate funds strategically and accordingly to various groups according to their current needs, in a view of developing the nation as the whole and getting ALL Malaysians regardless of race to a decent and acceptable standard of living.

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the breakfast is only like a cup of cereal. not even a bowl.

come on la
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QUOTE(Nachiino Etamay @ Jan 16 2020, 02:20 PM)
dude.

the government's secondary job is to take from the rich and give for the poor. because the rich will never help the poor because most of them are BBB's who lack empathy, and dont realise the danger. If you dont give to the poor, they will all go riot and destroy property. this is consistent across the world.
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If you think about it. It's the poor who's lazy and greedy

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[quote=stevecray,Jan 17 2020, 04:41 PM]
Yes the rich do pay more taxes, but they also enjoy a lot of privileges from the govt that the poor community do not get.

Would like to know what did the m40 n t20 range of people enjoy more privileges from the gov provided?
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[quote=sjteh,Jan 17 2020, 04:51 PM]
[quote=stevecray,Jan 17 2020, 04:41 PM]
Yes the rich do pay more taxes, but they also enjoy a lot of privileges from the govt that the poor community do not get.

Would like to know what did the m40 n t20 range of people enjoy more privileges from the gov provided?
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As fellow /k member already highlighted.

Zero capital gains tax.
Zero inheritance tax.
Zero tax for selling property after cooldown period ends.

All these incentives by the govt are already helping the rich get richer.

Imagine if all the poor people, who are too poor to benefit from all these zero capital gains tax, zero inheritance tax etc etc etc. How would you feel if they all stood up and revolted and said, "eh since i am too poor to benefit from all this, then govt should just get rid of all these benefits because it's unfair only rich people benefit from it??

Get what i mean?
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QUOTE(stevecray @ Jan 17 2020, 05:02 PM)
As fellow /k member already highlighted.

Zero capital gains tax.
Zero inheritance tax.
Zero tax for selling property after cooldown period ends.

All these incentives by the govt are already helping the rich get richer.

Imagine if all the poor people, who are too poor to benefit from all these zero capital gains tax, zero inheritance tax etc etc etc. How would you feel if they all stood up and revolted and said, "eh since i am too poor to benefit from all this, then govt should just get rid of all these benefits because it's unfair only rich people benefit from it??

Get what i mean?
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I believe is the gov duty to distribute resources to the needed and guide them to better life instead of hand out from ability fellow to them

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QUOTE(mojojojoseph @ Jan 17 2020, 12:50 PM)
Semua bayar tax. The rich pay even more tax. Shouldn’t everyone be entitled?
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Yes the rich do pay more taxes, but they also enjoy a lot of privileges from the govt that the poor community do not get.

I think the key point here is effective fund distribution by the govt to ensure equality of outcome. Providing free breakfast only to the poor students is fair, because students who's family can afford breakfasts should be able to provide them with breakfasts without requiring assistance from the govt. And imagine this, the funds saved by only providing free breakfast and nutrition to the poor (this could be in the billions), it can be used in other sectors to benefit all Malaysians as a whole, for example improving the healthcare system, improving infrastructure, combating crime, etc etc.

I don't think the role of the govt is to distribute funds equally to each and every single Malaysian citizen. That would be dumb. Their role is to allocate funds strategically and accordingly to various groups according to their current needs, in a view of developing the nation as the whole and getting ALL Malaysians regardless of race to a decent and acceptable standard of living.
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QUOTE(sjteh @ Jan 17 2020, 08:50 PM)
I believe is the gov duty to distribute resources to the needed and guide them to better life instead of hand out from ability fellow to them
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Isn't that exactly the point i was making?
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It is just like the teacher lower the marks of high flyers to accommodate the least instead of encourage them and guide the way to achieve higher.
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Let's go back to the main purpose of the program which is to help provide kids with the vital nutrients (through breakfast), now the reasoning that goes hand in hand here is that poor families are less likely gonna check that criteria, the kids either are having not so healthy food for breakfast or doesn't eat at all

Those things are nonexistant among the rich families. Their kitchen, their fridge stocked with food that are leaps better, they don't just pass the minimum they also overqualify, having access to top shelf stuff. The only issue remains is whether the kids would have breakfast or not. The one other very critical thing is pocket money to be used for recess, the riches here as expectedly won't have a problem but is a concern among the poor.

The isolation argument that people bring up is smth that can be addressed in lots of way, but this one majorly falls on teacher, them to encourage, to teach the lessons upon student. Could just let the qualified students roam around instead of specifying an area, but this one is valid for RMT though

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