What is the process for restaurant to apply halal certification? Is it difficult/expensive to apply? Do you eat only at halal certified restaurant?

This is why critical thinking is important during child development.

Got Halal cert, but restaurant dirty > optional to eat or not.

Having halal is is not compulsory for you to eat there, if your shirt got milk chocolate spilt onto, the shirt still halal to wear but will you wear it to work with the stain still on?

This post has been edited by cassian948: Jan 16 2020, 11:12 AM

studip

http://www.halal.gov.my/v4/index.php?data=...utama=CB_CANCEL

i tot mamak restaurant dapur open now.
we see how they cook.

Masa apply sijil semua okay

it's like justifying religious leaders (especially political ones) mencarut /spreading lies and hate ,just becoz he is a certified (enter religious credentials here).

its always good to know there are some intelligent people out there and not all are brainwashed.

their halal, even non related stuff eg coffee bean or vegetables also need to obtain from halal certify suppliers in order to grant halal cert..!! ridiculous..!!!

for the case above, education really important..!!

If kotor, actually not halal already. Halal means must be bersih for makan.

Korek me if wrong.

This post has been edited by 8bitguy: Jan 16 2020, 11:14 AM

Hard to comply leh liddat. Sure kaw2 expensive the raw material

if kotor the halal certification can be revoked as 90% of halal certification is on hygiene related issues.

audit process is a snapshot of the current state, therefore a certificate based on the audit were of the date where audit take place.

That is why for halal certification the SOP is also important to ensure continuous compliance.

Halal is just a cert in a way. But how many dirty mamak and malay restaurants did you see dirty af? Cats everywhere

Jakim halal cert required dapur to be clean.

Tak baik tegur mcm ni

Jgn angkuh sgt, dah terang2 disah halal, kalo ada kotor tak jadi masalah, anggap ni cabaran perut je

Takkan nak cabar Jakim bro, insaflah

not really though lol

if a piece of food fall on the floor and you picked it up and eat it it's still halal lol

apply cert = masuk pocket time

Good practice.

If floor got dog poop? Can?

clearly najis already cannot lol

Lipas poop can? Because you can't see it on the floor. OK?

if you can't see how do you know it's even there lol

You say drop on floor can mah. How you know no lipas or lizard poop? Or microbacteria? Or T-Virus?

i dont hence husnuzon lol

Malays when explaining to nons on why difficult to get cert:

"Halal bukan saja pork free saja tau, ia meliputi segala aspek kebersihan dari mula sampai akhir"


Meanwhile malay restaurant: *langgar hampir segala aspek kebersihan kecuali babi.

This post has been edited by United Rulez: Jan 16 2020, 11:44 AM

The principleis simple, until Halal food is proven Haram, than it is safe to eat.

Same case like the impossible pork issue - it is edibles for Muslim unless it is proven Haram to eat.

But one look at the kitchen dirty with Halal Sijil is halal? Kennot be right!

You have to understand that, JAKIM has SOP to follow, like any other certification body.

An apple still Halal, doesn't matter JAKIM produce cert for it or not.

I have not been to any mamak eatery for many years...on purpose. Too many hygiene issues, and sky-high pricing. They can plaster the walls with sijil, and I still won't step in.

Last year I discovered a Malay coffeeshop offering bakso and nasi campur. Actually it was my nose that led me to try the food there...the aromas were very enticing. Their bakso was rather meh, but the nasi campur is extremely good. Quality rice, very tasty kari ayam and their veg is not overcooked. I can clearly taste the freshness of the foods. The seasonings are well-balanced...tukang masak tu memang berbakat.

The place is very clean and there's insect screens at the glass case where the lauk are kept. But there's no sijil halal, no business license hanging on the wall. The shop doesn't even have a signboard! I've since become a regular customer, eating there at least 2X a week. Maybe one day I'll take photos of the foods i bungkus and post them. Not gonna reveal the location unless they get legalized, and hopefully they will get legalized soon cos I wanna keep eating there.

So like i said earlier. JAKIM shouldn't kacau Kementerian Kesihatan do their job. In fact they kacau everyone. Kacau Education Ministry, kacau Health Ministry. But in the end say tarak power, say for fun only.

korektion
halal defination (if i not mistaken) not contaminated with najis and other things which specify haram in muslim law

LOL no restaurant need to be close if their cert by JAKIM being revoke.

One of the criteria to get a Halal certificate is cleanliness. So, if they failed to maintain the cleanliness, the certificate can be revoked. Probably they just maintain the halal environment during inspection. It is true "sijil halal saja tak tentu halal".

But later muslim viral nobody eat, same effect as tutup kedai.

Yeah right, playing blaming game.

Smh.

Please check whether the mamak really has sijil halal?

Malay kampung got many such kind of warung makan. All sedap belaka although doesnt look good on the outside.

yup u're correct
one of the criteria to apply for halal cert is cleanliness

Tak perlu tengok makan ja

Blame? Just stating facts.

Menjaja secara haram kat tepi jalan haram or not ?
smoking then throw cigg but from car / bike from restaurant . haram x ?

The facts is you wants to make JAKIM look bad in any possible situation you can think and come up with.

https://www.malaymail.com/news/malaysia/201...-budget/1030189

https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2017...g-johor-sultan/

You nak CABAR?

Daulat Tuanku!

Meh, you think quoting Sultan decree to align with you argument suddenly all makes sense?

Credit is where credits due.

shhh….just keep quiet

Malas to read all the replies to this thread. Tak habis2.


Restaurant A is dirty and no halal cert - Some Muslims eat some Muslims don't

Restaurant B is clean but no halal cert - Some Muslims eat some Muslims don't

Restaurant C is dirty but got halal cert - Some Muslims eat some Muslims don't

Restaurant D is clean and got halal cert - Some Muslims eat some Muslims don't (maybe becoz don't like the food?).

At the end of the day, it's their fucking choice. How many times want to say?

Plotek all you like. JAKIM is still a dubious entity. Lol

masak sendiri la babi

Saufe Yahya comment looks legit...got sijil halal confirm halal.

who says halal must be clean?

as usual
salah dap dulu