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Owdan90
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Jan 16 2020, 12:05 PM
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QUOTE(ykj @ Jan 16 2020, 01:00 PM) Can you ensure every Malay boys and girls pass the bahasa exams in schools? Who am I to ensure that? I'm the headmaster or minister? no just normal citizen with blue ic that want good change... If u think I don't have any initiative to do somethings, u are wrong... I can speak and write in mandarin... so I can communicate with other races... hemm
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SUSNed_Fromthenorth
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Jan 16 2020, 12:07 PM
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QUOTE(posterc @ Jan 16 2020, 12:00 PM) see. then dont be suprised when meleis dont want to give up their malay rights. scared sudah bagi then later war run away pulak  lol this is what im against, all this tuan rumah mentality. as if other race is in debt to malay for their citizenship. can we say that 100% all malays are willing to die for the country? honestly, i only will if my family is in danger, if during war and there is a chance of moving my entire family someone safe and start new elsewhere i will take it. but all this tribalism is why war will never go away, if the rakyat rakyat of all country just stand firm and not want to go to war, the soldiers the police everyone just not go to war and fight, and if the big heads/leaders want to go to war, let the leaders fight the war.
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ykj
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Jan 16 2020, 12:08 PM
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QUOTE(dadah @ Jan 16 2020, 12:02 PM) my only experience is with cina. Cannot even speak basic bm or english. Can only speak cina. Born here and only can speak cina? Better send them back to china! Cakap dan sebar fake news senang aje ya. Cincai nampak satu serupa Cina, tak kira pelawat ke, Vietnamese ke, org Singapore ke dan etc, dah hantam Cina serta sebar.
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ykj
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Jan 16 2020, 12:11 PM
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QUOTE(Owdan90 @ Jan 16 2020, 12:05 PM) Who am I to ensure that? I'm the headmaster or minister? no just normal citizen with blue ic that want good change... If u think I don't have any initiative to do somethings, u are wrong... I can speak and write in mandarin... so I can communicate with other races... hemm So can the local Chinese ensure every single one to be fasih bahasa then? Can you stop being a joke? You can communicate with other races using this kind of mentality? Good luck with that
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pg84
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Jan 16 2020, 12:17 PM
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QUOTE(kurangak @ Jan 16 2020, 07:53 AM) Product of SJKC. So salah cikgu SJKC? Betul salah cikgu yg ajar tu
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Owdan90
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Jan 16 2020, 12:19 PM
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QUOTE(ykj @ Jan 16 2020, 01:11 PM) So can the local Chinese ensure every single one to be fasih bahasa then? Can you stop being a joke? You can communicate with other races using this kind of mentality? Good luck with that see you not even try... then even Bangla is trying to speak Bahasa Malaysia... shame on blue ic (Warganegara)...
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ykj
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Jan 16 2020, 12:23 PM
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QUOTE(Owdan90 @ Jan 16 2020, 12:19 PM) see you not even try... then even Bangla is trying to speak Bahasa Malaysia... shame on blue ic (Warganegara)...  Why not you ensure every Malay boys and girls passes the bahasa exam in school then only you start to brag? And to add it on, can you also guarantee that every single Bangladeshis in Malaysia can speak bahasa? So your comparison is worthless. You do not even have basic logic and humanity, let alone trying to ask other races to learn a language properly.
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CTSBD.ONE
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Jan 16 2020, 12:26 PM
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QUOTE(Ned_Fromthenorth @ Jan 16 2020, 11:49 AM) why so? can you explain in another context besides "its the national language, if you cant speak it get out". yes maybe its embarassing and funny at worst. why is it not OK for someone to not speak another language? i shouldn't because its the only context that matters lol it's ok to speak other language but you should be able to speak bahasa kebangsaan as well and i wont budge on this no matter what lol
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ZerOne01
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Jan 16 2020, 12:27 PM
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QUOTE(ykj @ Jan 16 2020, 12:23 PM) Why not you ensure every Malay boys and girls passes the bahasa exam in school then only you start to brag? And to add it on, can you also guarantee that every single Bangladeshis in Malaysia can speak bahasa? So your comparison is worthless. You do not even have basic logic and humanity, let alone trying to ask other races to learn a language properly. Sad A proper malaysian should just say let's ensure everyone can speak national language instead of my kind kenot speak melei, ur kind oso can't so no problem la kek I know i'm in your ignore list, mr racist hater
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kygt99
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Jan 16 2020, 12:29 PM
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Cikgu Puaka, perkataan "expect" tu BM ke?
Tapi, cikgu, saya ramai kawan dari SJKC SPM penuh A.
Macam mana ah cikgu?
BM dorang boleh pakai tak?
Layak jadi warganegara tak?
This post has been edited by kygt99: Jan 16 2020, 12:29 PM
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tbcheese
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Jan 16 2020, 12:31 PM
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Kinda surprised by this. SJKC grads I know/have met tend to have better command of BM compared to English.
Anyway, if they failed BM at UPSR then they are required to attend Peralihan right? If they passed, their level of BM might not be good but still able to communicate with others. If after all these and they can't even string together a broken sentence, then it's not an issue of whether they refused to learn BM but rather if they are capable of learning any subjects at all. Basically scraping the bottom of the barrel kind of situation.
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kurangak
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Jan 16 2020, 12:31 PM
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QUOTE(Ned_Fromthenorth @ Jan 16 2020, 11:47 AM) malays also got la who mix with own race, we even have universities or kampung area thats strictly BUMI only then how? my point again being, some of these chinese they cant speak malay and wont learn, because to them there's no need, they dont interact with malays in their daily lives. lets put aside the issue of country/nationalism. i ask you, if you never interact with any orang iban in your daily lives and no need to, will you go out your way to go learn the language? we're arguing in circles  QUOTE(ykj @ Jan 16 2020, 11:54 AM) You think human has hive mentality, control each and every single one to do as it should? Learn as it should? And so forth?Can you stop showing you are basically crazy and illogical? no, obviously.. but for u to think that it is ok, completely normal for chinese to know only mandarin, very little to none BM/BI is the very reason why the stereotype arise... This post has been edited by kurangak: Jan 16 2020, 12:32 PM
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kurangak
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Jan 16 2020, 12:35 PM
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QUOTE(kygt99 @ Jan 16 2020, 12:29 PM) Cikgu Puaka, perkataan "expect" tu BM ke? Tapi, cikgu, saya ramai kawan dari SJKC SPM penuh A. Macam mana ah cikgu? BM dorang boleh pakai tak? Layak jadi warganegara tak? >SJKC >SPM  if they manage to get full A in exam, obviously their spoken BM is passable at least but in this case, BI tak faham, explain in BM tak faham, how? mati la ini machiam...
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shodan11
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Jan 16 2020, 12:37 PM
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Plotek jangan tak plotek.
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runemastertan
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Jan 16 2020, 12:47 PM
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QUOTE(kurangak @ Jan 16 2020, 12:35 PM) >SJKC >SPM  if they manage to get full A in exam, obviously their spoken BM is passable at least but in this case, BI tak faham, explain in BM tak faham, how? mati la ini machiam... This is funny. As if he think all the students are good in learning. There are a lot of idiots in chinese community, but there are also a lot of idiots in malay. If that cikgu puaka can make the education standard in malaysia to be at least better than US or UK, well, that is a different argument at all. Cakap BM pun kena guna english words, then mau kritik budak BM and BI dia tak bagus. Sendiri bila nak ukur baju kat badan sendiri? This post has been edited by runemastertan: Jan 16 2020, 12:47 PM
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kurangak
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Jan 16 2020, 12:48 PM
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QUOTE(runemastertan @ Jan 16 2020, 12:47 PM) This is funny. As if he think all the students are good in learning. There are a lot of idiots in chinese community, but there are also a lot of idiots in malay. If that cikgu puaka can make the education standard in malaysia to be at least better than US or UK, well, that is a different argument at all. Cakap BM pun kena guna english words, then mau kritik budak BM and BI dia tak bagus. Sendiri bila nak ukur baju kat badan sendiri? sometimes need to mix english words to feel 'atas' plus, hes an english teacher, so maybe thats why he mix?
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runemastertan
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Jan 16 2020, 12:51 PM
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QUOTE(kurangak @ Jan 16 2020, 12:48 PM) sometimes need to mix english words to feel 'atas' plus, hes an english teacher, so maybe thats why he mix?  No, that is what BM is, a mixture of words from other language. Very proud of their rojak language. Until they discard their own BM words. I am sure you notice this too
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SUSpalankon
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Jan 16 2020, 12:55 PM
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bangsar bubble will come plotek plotek
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TrialGone
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Jan 16 2020, 12:57 PM
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Is kepsi a malay word?
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Clement1001
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Jan 16 2020, 01:02 PM
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Cikgu Puaka ~ there now you know ~
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