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macyhouse
post Jan 15 2020, 10:32 AM

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QUOTE(Matchy @ Jan 15 2020, 10:02 AM)
I think text message = SMS.
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post Jan 15 2020, 10:56 AM

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QUOTE(kkboy @ Jan 15 2020, 09:04 AM)
Looks like i wont be booking Malindo air anymore lol
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Malindo are not flying the max.....all maxs worldwide are grounded....they use the 737ng which is extremely safe...
Which is why this disaster happens.... Boeing wants to ride on the familiar safe ng to sell the max....rather than design a brand new aircraft....
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post Jan 15 2020, 11:01 AM

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https://qz.com/1776080/how-the-mcdonnell-do...737-max-crisis/

This helps explain why....

When businessman and non technical people take over....
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post Jan 15 2020, 01:11 PM

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QUOTE(blackpink @ Jan 15 2020, 10:19 AM)
u boy or girl?
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post Jan 15 2020, 01:16 PM

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QUOTE(JoeK @ Jan 15 2020, 08:06 AM)
How can they say these vulgarity in emails?

So not professional hmm.gif
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last time when sony pictures got hacked also the same la, their emails all got vulgarities n call who dumb la etc
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post Jan 15 2020, 02:31 PM

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QUOTE(pakmulau @ Jan 15 2020, 01:11 PM)
boboiboy la hahaha
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MAGAMan-X
post Jan 15 2020, 04:00 PM

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QUOTE(RobUlstan @ Jan 15 2020, 10:16 AM)
What do you mean? In this case, by all indications, IT IS the fault of the vendor.
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The new flight controls malfunctioned, is it through manufacturing problem or maintenance problem? Would additional training have helped in control failure situation? Why can't Lion Air get knowledge transfer from Malindo Air, which was already flying the Max?

So many questions, so few answers, but as typical in the court of public opinion, the one who was rude is the guilty party.
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post Jan 15 2020, 04:01 PM

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QUOTE(MAGAMan-X @ Jan 15 2020, 04:00 PM)
The new flight controls malfunctioned, is it through manufacturing problem or maintenance problem? Would additional training have helped in control failure situation? Why can't Lion Air get knowledge transfer from Malindo Air, which was already flying the Max?

So many questions, so few answers, but as typical in the court of public opinion, the one who was rude is the guilty party.
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What makes you think malindo air knew about this?


Nobody knew.


They talked about malindo because malindo accepted and were flying the plane while lion air rejected and wanted a training prior to accepting it.


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post Jan 15 2020, 04:03 PM

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QUOTE(ohman @ Jan 15 2020, 04:01 PM)
What makes you think malindo air knew about this?
Nobody knew.
They talked about malindo because malindo accepted and were flying the plane while lion air rejected and wanted a training prior to accepting it.
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Again... Seems like a left/right hand thing.
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post Jan 15 2020, 04:05 PM

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QUOTE(MAGAMan-X @ Jan 15 2020, 04:03 PM)
Again... Seems like a left/right hand thing.
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Let me try my other hand

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Wow so professional messages. Makes me wonder if I had been doing things wrong
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QUOTE(RicoT @ Jan 15 2020, 09:56 AM)
No wonder Lion Air is so furious, then came another crash, Boeing can say it is as good as dead now. 737MAX grounded with no expected date of return, 737NG facing pitch fork crack issues.
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top three order weii lion air

u buy something but kena grounded summore crash

abis la wei

gua kasi support manufacturer kasi troll sama gua
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post Jan 15 2020, 05:20 PM

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QUOTE(MAGAMan-X @ Jan 15 2020, 04:00 PM)
The new flight controls malfunctioned, is it through manufacturing problem or maintenance problem? Would additional training have helped in control failure situation? Why can't Lion Air get knowledge transfer from Malindo Air, which was already flying the Max?

So many questions, so few answers, but as typical in the court of public opinion, the one who was rude is the guilty party.
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You obviously haven't been keeping up with the issue....it's a hardware defect which Boeing attempted to correct using software....when the software malfunction, the pilots were not trained to do the right thing....they should not try to correct the aircraft, but switch off the auto stabilizer. The aircraft will then correct itself....

So it's both a hardware and software problem intrinsic with the design of the aircraft....

Additional training on a simulator will alert pilots to this problem, how to react, and likely prevent the crashes....
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post Jan 15 2020, 05:35 PM

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QUOTE(kkboy @ Jan 15 2020, 09:04 AM)
Looks like i wont be booking Malindo air anymore lol
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Malindo local flights dont use Max if i'm not mistaken...

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post Jan 15 2020, 05:41 PM

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QUOTE(cloud666 @ Jan 15 2020, 10:23 AM)
how is that so?
so is US seeing profit > human life openly to the world? (even we know they did)
if thats the case, more like US declaring war to the world
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It's the same thing when US incite a war in Iraq n Afghanistan with the reason of WMD but now it turned out for OIL. Profit's comes first before human life.
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post Jan 15 2020, 05:46 PM

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QUOTE(limeuu @ Jan 15 2020, 05:20 PM)
You obviously haven't been keeping up with the issue....it's a hardware defect which Boeing attempted to correct using software....when the software malfunction, the pilots were not trained to do the right thing....they should not try to correct the aircraft, but switch off the auto stabilizer. The aircraft will then correct itself....

So it's both a hardware and software problem intrinsic with the design of the aircraft....

Additional training on a simulator will alert pilots to this problem, how to react, and likely prevent the crashes....
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Sounds like something that can be covered with an email. No wonder Boeing rage. Ini machiam also want simulator???
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post Jan 15 2020, 05:49 PM

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QUOTE(MAGAMan-X @ Jan 15 2020, 05:46 PM)
Sounds like something that can be covered with an email. No wonder Boeing rage. Ini machiam also want simulator???
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After 2 air crashes. Everyone is an expert in this matter.

2 years ago nobody know what the f this is.


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post Jan 15 2020, 06:01 PM

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QUOTE(MAGAMan-X @ Jan 15 2020, 04:00 PM)
The new flight controls malfunctioned, is it through manufacturing problem or maintenance problem? Would additional training have helped in control failure situation? Why can't Lion Air get knowledge transfer from Malindo Air, which was already flying the Max?

So many questions, so few answers, but as typical in the court of public opinion, the one who was rude is the guilty party.
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it is not the rude email but the fact that boeing convinced their customer that no training is needed which ultimately proved to be the very thing that could have prevented it

boeing's convincing customer that training is not needed is their undoing laugh.gif
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post Jan 15 2020, 06:18 PM

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QUOTE(MAGAMan-X @ Jan 15 2020, 05:46 PM)
Sounds like something that can be covered with an email. No wonder Boeing rage. Ini machiam also want simulator???
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u ask gordon ramsay write u email of his secret recipe, will u be as good as him ah? bodo
this thing no need train emergency/panic that time how? open email and read through again?
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post Jan 15 2020, 06:19 PM

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QUOTE(MAGAMan-X @ Jan 15 2020, 05:46 PM)
Sounds like something that can be covered with an email. No wonder Boeing rage. Ini machiam also want simulator???
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Boeing knows the potential problems, but thought the software will work, in the background, and therefore no need to tell airlines and pilots....

Email?....lol you are so ignorant about flying.....lol

Boeing was very against additional simulator time because that's how they sell the max....by assuring airlines and pilots it will fly exactly like the 737ng....it doesn't because the new software change how the aircraft behaves....this is not something you teach by "email".....

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