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TSyaliqiu
post Jul 16 2007, 10:50 PM, updated 19y ago

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Hi... plan to get 50mm F1.8 for my 400D.. any brand recommend n price?
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post Jul 17 2007, 04:07 AM

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err..... the Canon EF 50mm f1.8 for RM290....
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post Jul 18 2007, 08:08 AM

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Goto Photo Selangor at Pertama Complex looking for the mata sepet uncle.

He first will open price at Rm300, nego with him till Rm270 for the lens. If he dun want then u cabut to other shop..sure he agree to sell u Rm270.

When u ask for UV filter, he will throw Kenko filter (box label RM59)..total Rm300. Said you want Hoya UV filter...52mm. He will said Rm310 (lens + filter)...taruk him again...

You will end up Rm300 lens with Hoya 52mm UV filter.

THis is what my friend did last week brows.gif
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QUOTE(g88 @ Jul 17 2007, 09:08 PM)
Goto Photo Selangor at Pertama Complex looking for the mata sepet uncle.

He first will open price at Rm300, nego with him till Rm270 for the lens. If he dun want then u cabut to other shop..sure he agree to sell u Rm270.

When u ask for UV filter, he will throw Kenko filter (box label RM59)..total Rm300. Said you want Hoya UV filter...52mm. He will said Rm310 (lens + filter)...taruk him again...

You will end up Rm300 lens with Hoya 52mm UV filter.

THis is what my friend did last week  brows.gif
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Or just print this out, show the boss, and say "read this, dun waste my time and saliva, 50mm 1.8 + hoya uv filter= RM300, take it or leave it" rclxms.gif

oh btw, some kenko filters are essentially hoya filters.

EDIT: acually, kenko = hoya = tokina = pentax, as long as the spec is the same

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post Aug 2 2007, 09:54 PM

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i just bought 50mm f1.8 last week at pertama complex..
i told the uncle my friend bought the lens + hoya 52mm UV just rm300.. he said ok then i add another hoya 58mm UV end up rm338
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post Aug 3 2007, 09:38 AM

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if u have the dough. go for 50mm f1.4 , faster fstop. rm1k++

but for me. my 50mm f1.8 is sufficient already. paired it with a closeup filter and voila, a clear picture of my pubic hair.. LOL.
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post Aug 4 2007, 10:59 PM

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out of 10 350D/400D user at least more than 5 person own 50mm 1.8 II since it's the cheapest prime lens yet performance not bad...
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post Aug 5 2007, 04:34 PM

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^ yeah, he's right. go for it. with a good body like 350d and 400d, 50mm f1.8 is precise enuff. check my gallery to see more of the closeup pics i've taken.
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post Aug 7 2007, 11:21 AM

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QUOTE(dgrebel @ Aug 5 2007, 04:34 PM)
^ yeah, he's right. go for it. with a good body like 350d and 400d, 50mm f1.8 is precise enuff. check my gallery to see more of the closeup pics i've taken.
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QUOTE(dgrebel @ Aug 3 2007, 09:38 AM)
if u have the dough. go for 50mm f1.4 , faster fstop. rm1k++

but for me. my 50mm f1.8 is sufficient already. paired it with a closeup filter and voila, a clear picture of my pubic hair.. LOL.
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So where are the shots of your pubes? sweat.gif
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post Aug 7 2007, 10:31 PM

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wahahaha.. it's just a figure of speech.
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post Aug 8 2007, 03:20 AM

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i got mine for RM 250 only, comes with filter too. biggrin.gif
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post Aug 8 2007, 08:00 AM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Aug 8 2007, 03:20 AM)
i got mine for RM 250 only, comes with filter too. biggrin.gif
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from desmond huh? i got 50mm f1.4 wanna letgo for rm1150. interested?
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post Aug 8 2007, 08:58 AM

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no la. i don't even know desmond. i bought it from some unknown chap on some other forum. smile.gif
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post Aug 8 2007, 12:11 PM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Aug 8 2007, 08:58 AM)
no la. i don't even know desmond. i bought it from some unknown chap on some other forum. smile.gif
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is it new or used set?
if new, then wow! thats very cheap.. thumbup.gif and ya, mind giving me his contacts?.. hehe

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post Aug 8 2007, 12:44 PM

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used unit la. but good condition. smile.gif cannot be new unit la. so much discount.
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post Aug 8 2007, 02:33 PM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Aug 8 2007, 12:44 PM)
used unit la. but good condition. smile.gif cannot be new unit la. so much discount.
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haha.. no wonder.. biggrin.gif
but hey, RM250 for a new one might not be impossible to get rite? a grey set la of cos.. sweat.gif but then again, if there are grey set selling at tat price, might as well get a new one.. thumbup.gif

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post Aug 8 2007, 02:36 PM

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got one at mir ftz, selling for 290.
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post Aug 8 2007, 03:53 PM

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Go like International Camera, Photo Selangor in Pertama Complex. They only selling like RM280-290 new unit summore...taruk them and ask for filter...total RM300 will do
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QUOTE(g88 @ Jul 18 2007, 08:08 AM)
Goto Photo Selangor at Pertama Complex looking for the mata sepet uncle.

He first will open price at Rm300, nego with him till Rm270 for the lens. If he dun want then u cabut to other shop..sure he agree to sell u Rm270.

When u ask for UV filter, he will throw Kenko filter (box label RM59)..total Rm300. Said you want Hoya UV filter...52mm. He will said Rm310 (lens + filter)...taruk him again...

You will end up Rm300 lens with Hoya 52mm UV filter.

THis is what my friend did last week  brows.gif
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wow.. tempted to get it since your friend get it for RM300.. maybe can ask your friend email me the receipt then i just show it to the uncle.. no need to talk more and bargain.. hhaha..


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QUOTE(kord @ Aug 8 2007, 02:33 PM)
haha.. no wonder..  biggrin.gif 
but hey, RM250 for a new one might not be impossible to get rite? a grey set la of cos..  sweat.gif  but then again, if there are grey set selling at tat price, might as well get a new one..  thumbup.gif
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how to differentiate a grey set? need advise..

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post Aug 9 2007, 11:02 AM

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QUOTE(PRINZE @ Aug 9 2007, 10:05 AM)
how to differentiate a grey set? need advise..
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it's the new set with cheap price (cheaper than market price around say 20-30%) and doesnt come with local waranty/warranty are meant for other country are grey set one.. i think la.. smile.gif

me never bought a "grey" set items b4 tho... not that i didnt want to, but bcos couldnt find any.. tongue.gif
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post Aug 9 2007, 12:57 PM

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Grey set doesn't come with Canon Malaysia warranty card. The car got ur lens serial number
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post Oct 29 2007, 09:11 AM

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Got Canon EF 50mm f/1.8 II? tongue.gif
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post Oct 29 2007, 07:31 PM

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QUOTE(DreamChaser @ Oct 29 2007, 09:11 AM)
Got Canon EF 50mm f/1.8 II?  tongue.gif
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all the EF 50mm f1.8 u can find in market now are all II version.. the 1st version already obsolete, and it's with metal mount if i'm not mistaken..
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post Oct 30 2007, 10:56 AM

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how does the lens perform for you guys?
cos i've seen a lot of samples from this lens especially bokeh shots,
the out of focus lights takes the shape of a pentagon instead of a hexagon which is more "bulat"...
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post Oct 30 2007, 06:12 PM

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does dat suggest any problems fr ya side? so far, i'm happy with the lens however sometimes frustrated when wanna snap from tight space..uhuhuhuhuh doh.gif
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post Oct 30 2007, 08:41 PM

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50mm is best to shoot at a further distance, not close shots. tongue.gif
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post Oct 30 2007, 09:26 PM

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QUOTE(DreamChaser @ Oct 30 2007, 08:41 PM)
50mm is best to shoot at a further distance, not close shots.  tongue.gif
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not if u're using full frame.. haha..
for 1.6x cropped camera, 50mm becomes 80mm..
too bad that the 50mm is the most economical prime.. those wide and tele primes are so darn expensive.
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haha. ya... agreed.. 50mm can cari makan oledi lo. tongue.gif
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post Oct 31 2007, 03:16 AM

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QUOTE(r4ydc24 @ Oct 30 2007, 06:12 PM)
does dat suggest any problems fr ya side? so far, i'm happy with the lens however sometimes frustrated when wanna snap from tight space..uhuhuhuhuh doh.gif
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Agreed. Thats where your kit-lens comes in handy... icon_rolleyes.gif


QUOTE(DreamChaser @ Oct 30 2007, 11:15 PM)
haha. ya... agreed.. 50mm can cari makan oledi lo.  tongue.gif
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I've seen many photographers using this out in the field. They are light, sharp and the cheapest fast lens you can buy. And yes, it is good enough for "cari-makan" especially for potraits i've seen... thumbup.gif
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post Nov 19 2007, 02:22 PM

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hi, anybody selling Canon 50mm f1.8? Please PM, call/sms 0134089966. thanks.
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QUOTE(dgrebel @ Aug 5 2007, 04:34 PM)
^ yeah, he's right. go for it. with a good body like 350d and 400d, 50mm f1.8 is precise enuff. check my gallery to see more of the closeup pics i've taken.
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How do I access your gallery?
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post Dec 3 2007, 02:14 PM

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hurm..i think i shud get it one.
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the lens is cheap. if got small budget, really can consider getting the F1.8
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i recently have a TT with some fellow photog after a photoshoot, and most of us found out that the 50mm f1.8 II is front focus... and most of us (6 of us) has the serial number starting with 2xxxxx

however, we got a 3xxxxx one and it is more solid and focus more precise, anyone having the same problem ?
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huhu. 50mm+uv filter=rm300? may i get it from photo selangor for that price? . haven't learn 'art of persuade'. smile.gif
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QUOTE(fcbarcelona-my @ Dec 4 2007, 09:49 PM)
huhu.  50mm+uv filter=rm300? may i get it from photo selangor for that price? . haven't learn 'art of persuade'. smile.gif
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last time i go buy, i tell the uncle i got fren bought RM300 plus filter, he straight away say ok. tongue.gif no need persuade. fast deal fast test fast pay fast leave.

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I only managed to get it for RM 320 with filter @ Sungai Wang..
Fotokem asked for RM 380 without filter, Shangri-La RM 330 without filter.. zzz

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I bought mine few months ago for RM300 at bintang maju.. 2 months before that they quoted me for RM320.. no free gift (uv filter) tho..
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QUOTE(yaliqiu @ Aug 2 2007, 09:54 PM)
i just bought 50mm f1.8 last week at pertama complex..
i told the uncle my friend bought the lens + hoya 52mm UV just rm300.. he said ok then i add another hoya 58mm UV end up rm338
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Crap.. (is all I can say) I bought mine from Foto Edar for RM290 for the lens and a raydawn filter for RM60 = RM350..

Bad..Bad.. Bad... BAH!! bAH!! BAH!!!>...



mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif

I even went to Pudu Plaza, YL Camera I think (1st floor w/ lots of 2nd hand lenses on display) and was quoted Rm470 as well.

Go YL must bargain as well?? I hate bargaining. Also, they should just give a "good" price 1st hand, else for majority of ppl, the price they give 1st hand is the price we use to compare when asking around for BEST price. (correct??)

Then we move on to the next shop and haggle with the cheapest "offer" price.

(and as it turns out, I'm not very good with bargaining, that's why end up paying Rm60 for a Raydawn UV filter.)

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QUOTE([ - i l l u s i o n s - ] @ Nov 27 2007, 07:46 PM)
How do I access your gallery?
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http://ahmadsyafeeq.slide.com <--most of the portraitures are taken using 50mm f1.8

http://picasaweb.google.com/ahmadsyafeeq/egypt
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QUOTE(vincent_audio @ Dec 4 2007, 12:35 AM)
i recently have a TT with some fellow photog after a photoshoot, and most of us found out that the 50mm f1.8 II is front focus... and most of us (6 of us) has the serial number starting with 2xxxxx

however, we got a 3xxxxx one and it is more solid and focus more precise, anyone having the same problem ?
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Mine is 3xxxx serial Number.. I can't compare.. but what I do see is that I'm having a "problem" due to the "fast" lens. Like a double edge sword. If want take low light picture, at 1.8, end up the picture is not very sharp. Or rather the area in focus is only very small.

So.. how ah??
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QUOTE(myjunk @ Dec 29 2007, 09:26 AM)
Crap.. (is all I can say) I bought mine from Foto Edar for RM290 for the lens and a raydawn filter for RM60 = RM350..

Bad..Bad.. Bad... BAH!! bAH!! BAH!!!>...
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I even went to Pudu Plaza, YL Camera I think (1st floor w/ lots of 2nd hand lenses on display) and was quoted Rm470 as well.

Go YL must bargain as well?? I hate bargaining. Also, they should just give a "good" price 1st hand, else for majority of ppl, the price they give 1st hand is the price we use to compare when asking around for BEST price. (correct??)

Then we move on to the next shop and haggle with the cheapest "offer" price.

(and as it turns out, I'm not very good with bargaining, that's why end up paying Rm60 for a Raydawn UV filter.)
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ahahahaa, u shld haf seen almost all camera shop in JB dat I went to, quoted RM550 for this lens... yaloh, of coz b4 bargaining... they'll make it looks like they give good price slash later on... BAH!!!!
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QUOTE(r4ydc24 @ Dec 29 2007, 10:30 AM)
ahahahaa, u shld haf seen almost all camera shop in JB dat I went to, quoted RM550 for this lens... yaloh, of coz b4 bargaining... they'll make it looks like they give good price slash later on... BAH!!!!
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Prob is.. when they give such prices, majority of ppl will just shrug it off and walk away. Hence, lost potential customer.
I understand they want margin and so on, but it turns off people, esp those who are like impulse buyers (me like this sometimes eg: went to pc fair, suddenly see 1x2GB SoDIMM 667 Ram for RM135, then BUY BUY BUY! even though not in budget!)

But at least in M'sia they put down the prices, even though it's bogus. In S'pore simlim, they don't even put down prices but have some coding system and you have to ask prices. Cannot haggle somemore if don't want to buy from them, later kena marah.

Piss off lah..
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QUOTE(myjunk @ Dec 29 2007, 09:37 AM)
Mine is 3xxxx serial Number.. I can't compare.. but what I do see is that I'm having a "problem" due to the "fast" lens. Like a double edge sword. If want take low light picture, at 1.8, end up the picture is not very sharp. Or rather the area in focus is only very small.

So.. how ah??
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u coming to the zoo outing ? then we can compare with mine smile.gif

normally at f1.8, i could take still image... even at f2.8 i'm already on advantage
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QUOTE(vincent_audio @ Dec 31 2007, 09:41 PM)
u coming to the zoo outing ? then we can compare with mine smile.gif

normally at f1.8, i could take still image... even at f2.8 i'm already on advantage
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I'm debating on whether I should Go or not... Newbie among the sifus with the long guns and also perhaps I'll be the oldest person there.

But.. I htink 70% sure going already..

the 50mm is already my main lens. Kit lens already thrown one side.
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QUOTE(myjunk @ Jan 1 2008, 09:14 AM)
I'm debating on whether I should Go or not... Newbie among the sifus with the long guns and also perhaps I'll be the oldest person there.

But.. I htink 70% sure going already..

the 50mm is already my main lens. Kit lens already thrown one side.
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just come only smile.gif hehehhe

p/s: i won't be any how younger than u smile.gif i'm gonna be one of the old guy there too
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QUOTE(vincent_audio @ Jan 1 2008, 02:05 PM)
just come only smile.gif hehehhe

p/s: i won't be any how younger than u smile.gif i'm gonna be one of the old guy there too
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Dang it.. Raining here.. I was thinking of going down to LY to get a 4GB CF card. (cheap kingston one.. No need for the Ultra extreme or ducati versions since I read, it doesn't make a difference even if the card is 1000x speed as 400d max speed ~7mb/s)

As I play with my 1.8 more and more, I get more and more dissappointed. It's really not very sharp at all wide open. (or as I said, the area which is "sharp" is very small. eg: if taking potrait, spot focus on the face, then only the face will be sharp and the rest will be soft)

Now, I think 80% going already lah. .Been a long time never go zoo also.

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Just took these for comparison

f2.0
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f2.2
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f1.8
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You can see that the area in sharp focus is very small. Reading up to 10pages from FM reviews on this lens say that one has to move up to f4.0 min to start to get a good sharpness.

So, tell me again, whats the point of having f1.8 then if it's good for low light but does not offer good sharpness?


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Someone please explain about the aperture... sweat.gif
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QUOTE(myjunk @ Jan 1 2008, 04:43 PM)

So, tell me again, whats the point of having f1.8 then if it's good for low light but does not offer good sharpness?
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QUOTE(vikingw2k @ Jan 1 2008, 10:18 PM)
Well, what you pay is what you get smile.gif
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I agree wholeheartedly..

Will the 1.2L or even the 1.4L make a difference? Do you know?
I bit lazy to go read the reviews etc. (since no money to buy anyhow.. too expensive!)

Anyway, as aperture becomes bigger, the DOF becomes smaller, so a smaller Area in focus is expected, Right???
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QUOTE(myjunk @ Jan 1 2008, 04:43 PM)
So, tell me again, whats the point of having f1.8 then if it's good for low light but does not offer good sharpness?


1. flexibility
2. you have option to go down to 1.8 if your situation requires
3. sometimes sacrifices is inevitable

but hey, it's sub-RM300 lens. smile.gif

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Fast lenses (large aperture lenses) like f1.8 and up are great for low light conditions. But, when you have large aperture, your depth of field is very narrow - this means that only the in focus area will be sharp, the "out of focus" area will be blurred, and it's called bokeh.

Another explanation (for large aperture): say your subject (focal point) is 3m from the camera. At a large aperture, anything that is not positioned at that distance, eg: 2.5m from the camera, or 3.5m from the camera, will NOT be sharp.

my fav bokeh photographers: http://www.flickr.com/photos/motionid/ and http://www.flickr.com/photos/mrbokeh/ . Motionid has the aperture stated for all pictures he took - mind you, they use super expensive lenses: 85mm f1.2

If you want to compare the sharpness of the 50mm f1.8, you'll need to compare it with pictures of the SAME aperture - hence, at the same apertures, the f1.4 usm and f1.2 usm lenses offer better images due to their superior optics (and killer price).

If you want your ENTIRE frame to be super sharp (like taking landscapes), you need small, small apertures like f11 and up (I'm not too sure about the exact number though tongue.gif)

It is physically impossible to take "full frame sharpness" photos under low light conditions - unless you exposure is a few seconds long - which is practically useless for events..

all correct right Vi King sifu? tongue.gif
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QUOTE(dx_myrddraal @ Jan 5 2008, 03:10 PM)
Fast lenses (large aperture lenses) like f1.8 and up are great for low light conditions. But, when you have large aperture, your depth of field is very narrow - this means that only the in focus area will be sharp, the "out of focus" area will be blurred, and it's called bokeh.

Another explanation (for large aperture): say your subject (focal point) is 3m from the camera. At a large aperture, anything that is not positioned at that distance, eg: 2.5m from the camera, or 3.5m from the camera, will NOT be sharp.

my fav bokeh photographers: http://www.flickr.com/photos/motionid/ and http://www.flickr.com/photos/mrbokeh/ . Motionid has the aperture stated for all pictures he took - mind you, they use super expensive lenses: 85mm f1.2

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Cool photos from them man..
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post Jan 6 2008, 03:16 PM

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QUOTE(dx_myrddraal @ Jan 5 2008, 03:10 PM)

all correct right Vi King sifu? tongue.gif
aiks, don't address me like that ler sad.gif I'm still a beginner and I'm still learning from each other here. cheers.gif


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post Jan 6 2008, 04:58 PM

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QUOTE(myjunk @ Jan 6 2008, 02:38 PM)
Cool photos from them man..
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yeah, the 50mm f1.8 is for pictures "like" that.. if you want "sharp" images, might as well you just stick with the kit lens and snap at f5.6 or smaller..


 

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