QUOTE(ikankering @ Jan 11 2020, 02:58 PM)
exactly.either they have no discipline or they poor work planning migget with no spine to do work; or just incompetent or worst; under equip with toools from 1960s.
Sabah JKR to manage Pan Borneo Highway project, Contractors, consultants reappointed
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Jan 11 2020, 01:50 PM
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Jan 11 2020, 01:50 PM
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JkR? They are worser that private highway companies
It just moved from BN crony pocket to state gov crony pocket |
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Jan 11 2020, 01:51 PM
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Jkr isnt any good either lel
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Jan 11 2020, 01:54 PM
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QUOTE(Stigonboard @ Jan 11 2020, 03:20 PM) JkR? They are worser that private highway companies JKR should be dissolve no? and CIBD and JKR should be merge and malaysia engineering body IEM It just moved from BN crony pocket to state gov crony pocket and only pick the best apples and orange instead having all of them on-board. How to add twitter to make this idea serious rolling ball.? cc: https://twitter.com/baru_bian |
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Jan 11 2020, 01:55 PM
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Jan 11 2020, 01:59 PM
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QUOTE(Syie9^_^ @ Jan 11 2020, 12:32 PM) JKR = standardize a infra system and a standard of competency in Malaysia ; no political affiliate; structure the necessary system in place from a housing / engineering / management / etc etc / examine the cost effective deliverance and value for malaysia tax payers Mapren, one word for your TL;DR,Just look at major "Infrastructure" entity around the world. they always have a good list what the country need to do etc like a "independent consultant" . like US Army Engineering Corp. / Infrastructure Aus / Infrastructure NZ / UK Infrastructures etc. JKR is so out dated. all work work on road only but never get best top notch road like german engineering. The Road in Malaya highways are better than those in Borneo; why. isnt the roads procurement and standards supposedly the same as accordance to malaya or prior engineering standard to adhered to. You say JKR...how about CIBD. another one body.. so many agencies or body with certain entity should be merged; instead let them carry their own syiok sendiri agenda. COST You don’t expect backwater places to be willing to folk out extra for higher specifications stuffs, even though it might be more cost effective in long run. |
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Jan 11 2020, 02:03 PM
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Jan 11 2020, 02:09 PM
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For yor information. Jkr sabah is different than jkr malaysia. Jkr sabah purely under state. Different requirements and procedure.
If u think jkr malaysia sucks. Then u can imagine how jkr sabah is. With their lack of expertise and expirience manag8ng huge contract like these. |
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Jan 11 2020, 02:18 PM
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QUOTE(msacras @ Jan 11 2020, 03:29 PM) Mapren, one word for your TL;DR, You want to talk cost; why dont your CON- cost those idiot consultants first? with facts and real project number; not politicized number. COST You don’t expect backwater places to be willing to folk out extra for higher specifications stuffs, even though it might be more cost effective in long run. talk cost like you all pannai accounting costing or quantity surveying. All of the costing are much ++ with under-table money la idiot; only applicable in malaysia with substandard deliverance. Just look down south; Indonesia able to built road to connect their few major town with okay ish road. While Malaysia; a simple fucking good road cant even get it RIGHT. and "oh it cost so much more in rural while better for the urban to have it etc etc. Yet; in urban places; you still have pot holes." should not those pot-holes be warranted under "X company who did it?" while insulting backwater; is like saying someone in somewhere of the planet not entitled for such BASIC infrastructure etc. You talk so much cost; no wonder nothing gets DONE RIGHT. Cost will always goes up as long as people like you prefer to add "personal costing and yield" to the projects. Period. And these people should not be in the system because they are like mole; you never know the bridge you use daily will collapse someday. |
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Jan 11 2020, 02:21 PM
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QUOTE(mmusang @ Jan 11 2020, 03:33 PM) exactly; prisoners have been consider useless manpower that sitting doing nothing at tax payer expenses; they should be utilize to pick those palm oil fruits; built infrastructure that are needed.In construction; it require army discipline alike; You cannot have migget office workers come and bossy you about COST. Those idiot at office sometime knows nothing about getting it RIGHT and WELL. |
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Jan 11 2020, 02:29 PM
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Kesian sabahan....najib want to bring ong to the sabahan
But ph give them low quakity job |
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Jan 11 2020, 02:30 PM
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QUOTE(Syie9^_^ @ Jan 11 2020, 02:18 PM) You want to talk cost; why dont your CON- cost those idiot consultants first? with facts and real project number; not politicized number. B4 u talk about this, what are your expertise? /k always tok kok but in reality, nak betulkan pendrive yg kena virus pun xpandaitalk cost like you all pannai accounting costing or quantity surveying. All of the costing are much ++ with under-table money la idiot; only applicable in malaysia with substandard deliverance. Just look down south; Indonesia able to built road to connect their few major town with okay ish road. While Malaysia; a simple fucking good road cant even get it RIGHT. and "oh it cost so much more in rural while better for the urban to have it etc etc. Yet; in urban places; you still have pot holes." should not those pot-holes be warranted under "X company who did it?" while insulting backwater; is like saying someone in somewhere of the planet not entitled for such BASIC infrastructure etc. You talk so much cost; no wonder nothing gets DONE RIGHT. Cost will always goes up as long as people like you prefer to add "personal costing and yield" to the projects. Period. And these people should not be in the system because they are like mole; you never know the bridge you use daily will collapse someday. |
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Jan 11 2020, 02:38 PM
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QUOTE(aziratul @ Jan 11 2020, 04:00 PM) B4 u talk about this, what are your expertise? /k always tok kok but in reality, nak betulkan pendrive yg kena virus pun xpandai You need your low-skill bangla CON-cipet servicemen to format your virus pendrive. My expertise; is ______________ that is funded by Illuminati. |
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Jan 11 2020, 03:05 PM
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saw PDP won international award beating London road infrastructure last year and they replace it with JKR...
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Jan 11 2020, 03:12 PM
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Expect worse quality
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Jan 11 2020, 03:27 PM
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sabah jkr engineers all gila kaya-kaya
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Jan 11 2020, 03:32 PM
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Good luck, Jkr sabah songlap byk kuat ..
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Jan 11 2020, 11:22 PM
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QUOTE(SuperGampang @ Jan 11 2020, 02:09 PM) For yor information. Jkr sabah is different than jkr malaysia. Jkr sabah purely under state. Different requirements and procedure. I bet they rope in private CONsultants which will added the cost moreIf u think jkr malaysia sucks. Then u can imagine how jkr sabah is. With their lack of expertise and expirience manag8ng huge contract like these. |
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QUOTE(LTZ @ Jan 11 2020, 12:20 PM) Nanti sampai satu tahap.....kalau nk safe lg duit tiba2, Rejimen Askar Jurutera Diraja pulak yg dikerah sambung Jiwa Murni atau Jiwa Kroni...Defence Ministry’s Sarawak projects flagged in A-G’s report for poor quality 18 May 2016 SoS QUOTE KUALA LUMPUR, May 18 ― The Defence Ministry spent RM253 million to fund 11 infrastructure projects in Sarawak over the last five years, but according to the Auditor-General’s (A-G) report released today, the quality of the work done was less than satisfactory. The report stated that in eight of the 11 Jiwa Murni Projects (JMP), which is a collaborative effort between the Malaysian Armed Forces (ATM), the Royal Armed Engineers Regiment (RAJD) and companies selected by the government, defective roads were built and were not given proper maintenance. “Quality of work was less satisfactory. Road shoulders and drains were not built, potholes, uneven and muddy road surfaces in certain stretches of the Road project from Pekan Belaga to Mejawah, Belaga; Road project from Long Lopeng to Ba‟kelalan, Lawas and Road project from Miri to Marudi,” the report said. “Road maintenance was less satisfactory. Faded road lines; and untrimmed wild plants and grass along road shoulders,” the report added. The A-G’s report was based on findings of the audit conducted between September and December 2015 on the eight projects in Kapit, Miri and Limbang. The report also noted that the safety of the roads built were “less satisfactory” as they were steep and winding with “no slopes protection.” Land acquisition activities were also inadequate and resulted in certain landowners not being paid their rightful compensation. “Procedures for land acquisition, compensation arrangements and arbitration processes were not implemented resulting in unpaid land and crop compensation to landowners,” the report said, but did not elaborate further. The A-G recommended that the Defence Ministry as well as the Sarawak state government adhere to the proper land requisition processes outlined in the “State Land Code (Chapter 81) 1958”. The report detailed that from 2009 to June 30, 2015, ATM carried out 11 projects under JMP which amounted to a contract sum of RM253.98 million. The procurement for these project were conducted through “direct negotiation” between the Defence Ministry’s Development Division and select contractors, all of which were approved by the Finance Ministry. The report did not name these contractors. National newswire Bernama reported deputy prime minister Datuk Seri Dr Ahmad Zahid Hamidi as saying last month that RM743 million had been allocated to the JMP to build more roads in the rural areas of Sarawak. Penyelewengan dalam Pengurusan Projek Jiwa Murni masih disiasat 29 Jan 2019 SoS QUOTE SIASATAN terhadap dakwaan kononnya berlaku penyelewengan dalam Pengurusan Projek Jiwa Murni (PJM) tidak pernah ditamatkan, kata Menteri Pertahanan Mohamad Sabu.“Ia masih dalam siasatan, tidak sampai untuk dibawa ke pengetahuan umum melalui Kertas Putih Pertahanan (KPP). “Ia masih di dalam siasatan Tan Sri Ambrin (Jawatankuasa Siasatan Tadbir Urus, Perolehan dan Kewangan Kerajaan), ia belum tamat lagi,” katanya dalam sidang media selepas mempengerusikan Persidangan Meja Bulat Peringkat Tinggi Kertas Putih Pertahanan di Wisma Perwira pada Selasa. Persidangan meja bulat itu turut dihadiri Menteri Dalam Negeri Tan Sri Muhyiddin Yassin, Menteri Komunikasi dan Multimedia Gobind Singh Deo, Menteri Hal Ehwal Ekonomi Datuk Seri Mohamed Azmin Ali dan Ketua Setiausaha Negara dan Datuk Seri Dr Ismail Bakar. Baru-baru ini dilapor, Suruhanjaya Pencegahan Rasuah Malaysia (SPRM) diminta menyiasat penyelewengan satu projek menaik taraf jalan di pedalaman Sarawak kerana dikatakan tidak menepati piawaian selain gagal disiapkan mengikut waktu yang ditetapkan dipercayai disebabkan faktor rasuah. Dilapor tahun lepas, Jawatankuasa Siasatan Tadbir Urus, Perolehan dan Kewangan Kerajaan memulakan siasatan pertamanya ke atas Kementerian Pertahanan, kata Pengerusinya Tan Sri Ambrin Buang. Ambrin berkata jawatankuasa yang ditubuhkan atas persetujuan mesyuarat Jemaah Menteri pada 30 Mei lalu itu memulakan tugas siasatan berkenaan atas permintaan Menteri Pertahanan Mohamad Sabu sendiri. Siasatan jawatankuasa tersebut akan memberi fokus kepada kes-kes yang mencurigakan di mana-mana kementerian selain mengesyor langkah-langkah yang lebih baik bagi membasmi ketirisan wang negara. Sebagai permulaan, jawatankuasa itu akan memulakan penyiasatan ke atas beberapa projek di bawah kelolaan Kementerian Pertahanan. Menurut Laporan Ketua Audit Negara 2015, lawatan audit mendapati kualiti kerja Pengurusan Projek Jiwa Murni (PJM) kurang memuaskan dan ada jalan yang tidak dibina bahu jalan serta longkang mengikut standard jalan Jabatan Kerja Raya (JKR) disebabkan peruntukan tidak mencukupi. Kertas Putih Pertahanan yang akan dibentangkan di Parlimen Julai ini adalah dokumen yang bukan lagi diklasifikasikan sebagai ‘sulit’ yang boleh ditatap oleh semua rakyat Malaysia. Siasatan Projek Jiwa Murni tidak pernah ditamatkan - Menteri Pertahanan 29 Jan 2019 SoS QUOTE KUALA LUMPUR: Kementerian Pertahanan tidak pernah menamatkan siasatan dakwaan kononnya berlaku penyelewengan dalam isu pengurusan Projek Jiwa Murni (PJM). Menterinya Pertahanan Mohamad Sabu menjelaskan, ia masih dalam siasatan dan tidak sampai untuk dibawa ke pengetahuan umum melalui Kertas Putih Pertahanan (KPP). "Ia masih di dalam siasatan Tan Sri Ambrin (Jawatankuasa Siasatan Tadbir Urus, Perolehan dan Kewangan Kerajaan), ia belum tamat lagi,” katanya dalam sidang media selepas mempengerusikan Persidangan Meja Bulat Peringkat Tinggi Kertas Putih Pertahanan di Wisma Perwira, pada Selasa. Persidangan meja bulat itu turut dihadiri Menteri Dalam Negeri, Tan Sri Muhyiddin Yassin, Menteri Komunikasi dan Multimedia Gobind Singh Deo, Menteri Hal Ehwal Ekonomi Datuk Seri Mohamed Azmin Ali dan Ketua Setiausaha Negara dan Datuk Seri Dr Ismail Bakar. Sebelum ini, Astro AWANI melaporkan, Suruhanjaya Pencegahan Rasuah Malaysia (SPRM) diminta menyiasat penyelewengan satu projek menaik taraf jalan di pedalaman Sarawak. Menurut sumber, projek itu dikatakan tidak menepati piawaian selain gagal disiapkan mengikut waktu yang ditetapkan dipercayai disebabkan oleh faktor rasuah. Jelasnya, projek melibatkan seorang penjawat awam bergelar Datuk Seri itu bermula pada tahun 2009 dan sepatutnya disiapkan pada 31 September 2011. Pada tahun lepas, Pengerusi Jawatankuasa Siasatan Tadbir Urus, Perolehan dan Kewangan Kerajaan, Tan Sri Ambrin Buang dilaporkan memulakan siasatan pertamanya ke atas Kementerian Pertahanan. Ambrin berkata jawatankuasa yang ditubuhkan atas persetujuan mesyuarat Jemaah Menteri pada 30 Mei lalu itu memulakan tugas siasatan berkenaan atas permintaan Mohamad sendiri. Jelasnya, siasatan jawatankuasa tersebut akan memberi fokus kepada kes-kes yang mencurigakan di mana-mana kementerian selain mengesyor langkah-langkah yang lebih baik bagi membasmi ketirisan wang negara. Sebagai permulaan ujar Ambrin, jawatankuasa itu akan memulakan penyiasatan ke atas beberapa projek di bawah kelolaan Kementerian Pertahanan. Menurut Laporan Ketua Audit Negara 2015, lawatan audit mendapati kualiti kerja Pengurusan Projek Jiwa Murni (PJM) kurang memuaskan dan ada jalan yang tidak dibina bahu jalan serta longkang mengikut standard jalan Jabatan Kerja Raya (JKR) disebabkan peruntukan tidak mencukupi. Kertas Putih Pertahanan yang akan dibentangkan di Parlimen pada Julai adalah dokumen yang bukan lagi diklasifikasikan sebagai sulit yang boleh dibaca oleh semua rakyat negara ini. |
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reappoint all own crony. topkek.
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