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post Jan 10 2020, 11:22 PM, updated 6y ago

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2020 Volkswagen Passat 2.0TSI Elegance Launched in Malaysia Walkaround Review - RM188k, 190PS, 320Nm

is it safe yet to buy?? laugh.gif


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post Jan 10 2020, 11:27 PM

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ni kena tag boy96 ni tgk ape comment dia
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Detune engine...why ? Something wrong with model before ?


If want to remap..will have problem?

So many questions to ask....so little time.
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Wet DSG... BBB
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QUOTE(cockerish @ Jan 10 2020, 11:30 PM)
Detune engine...why ? Something wrong with model before ?
If want to remap..will have problem?

So many questions to ask....so little time.
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If d same internal parts then shud b ok.
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post Jan 10 2020, 11:49 PM

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QUOTE(tatabun @ Jan 10 2020, 11:28 PM)
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Less horsepower, less features than current passat. The 7 speed wet DSG doesnt shift as fast as the 6 speed wet dsg

Ill get the current Passat (only rm155k now) in a heartbeat compared to this one

No auto park, no AEB, no XDS, no DCC, no analogue clock in the dash, no i.Q Lighting system etc etc

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QUOTE(cockerish @ Jan 10 2020, 11:30 PM)
Detune engine...why ? Something wrong with model before ?
If want to remap..will have problem?

So many questions to ask....so little time.
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Detuned because of the stupid euro 6.2 regulations. In europe they even had to fit in gasoline/petrol particulate filter and exhaust gas recirc thingy..

The prefacelift had waterpump leaking issue, not sure if it has been fixed on this new model

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QUOTE(Boy96 @ Jan 11 2020, 12:49 AM)
Less horsepower, less features than current passat. The 7 speed wet DSG doesnt shift as fast as the 6 speed wet dsg

Ill get the current Passat (only rm155k now) in a heartbeat compared to this one

No auto park, no AEB, no XDS, no DCC, no analogue clock in the dash, no i.Q Lighting system etc etc
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eh this one no autopark rupanya.. haha


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they take off the analog clock n replace with that “passat” emblem?

kinda gross looking too
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post Jan 11 2020, 12:20 AM

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GL potential VW owners.

Do your research on the customer service of their VW car service centres in Malaysia.
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QUOTE(Boy96 @ Jan 10 2020, 11:50 PM)
Detuned because of the stupid euro 6.2 regulations. In europe they even had to fit in gasoline/petrol particulate filter and exhaust gas recirc thingy..

The prefacelift had waterpump leaking issue, not sure if it has been fixed on this new model
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pump design slight change, still made frm plastic, still will break after 5 years
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the us one even more detuned, only 175hp, thats 1.5t vtec turbo territory already
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QUOTE(tatabun @ Jan 11 2020, 12:07 AM)
eh this one no autopark rupanya.. haha
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Spare tyre also change space saver type, no more full size
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QUOTE(Boy96 @ Jan 11 2020, 12:40 AM)
Spare tyre also change space saver type, no more full size
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QUOTE(zerorating @ Jan 11 2020, 12:33 AM)
the us one even more detuned, only 175hp, thats 1.5t vtec turbo territory already
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QUOTE(ycs @ Jan 10 2020, 11:22 PM)
2020 Volkswagen Passat 2.0TSI Elegance Launched in Malaysia Walkaround Review - RM188k, 190PS, 320Nm

is it safe yet to buy?? laugh.gif


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ooo shiet... new passat my tin milo kenot play2 liao...

old pasat 1.6 PUIK.. slipstreaming my tin milo also no hope to catch
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QUOTE(Revamperz @ Jan 11 2020, 12:17 AM)
they take off the analog clock n replace with that “passat” emblem?

kinda gross looking too
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Maybe a reminder ....to remind you what car u are driving
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how big is a Passat compared to a C/E class or 3/5 series?
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Wait till they have clearance sales

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QUOTE(Boy96 @ Jan 11 2020, 12:40 AM)
Spare tyre also change space saver type, no more full size
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Lol wut..pay so much yet get small spare Tyre 😅
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Passat FB page everytime see ppl asking what's this light, what's that light for.
Then get congratulated for first time going up tow truck

Epic experience. Das AUTO

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Totally unreliable car. Breakdown every now and then

AndTheir SC suck balls

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QUOTE(kevin23 @ Jan 11 2020, 07:50 AM)
Totally unreliable car. Breakdown every now and then

AndTheir SC suck balls
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Car got problems until SC get sued.
Many already closed down because customer fuck upside down everyday.

If Malaysia got lemon law, VW will probably exit from Malaysia market because get sued until lose money
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2020 Volkswagen Passat 2.0TSI Elegance Launched in Malaysia Walkaround Review - RM188k, 190PS, 320Nm

is it safe yet to buy?? laugh.gif


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QUOTE(cockerish @ Jan 11 2020, 07:00 AM)
Maybe a reminder ....to remind you what car u are driving
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yep. u n everybody else too

theres now “passat” lettering at rear bonet too

again.. gross
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QUOTE(AllnGap @ Jan 11 2020, 07:56 AM)
Car got problems until SC get sued.
Many already closed down because customer fuck upside down everyday.

If Malaysia got lemon law, VW will probably exit from Malaysia market because get sued until lose money
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Had 2 VW last time.

Masuk workshop every month

Nice to drive but totally unreliable
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QUOTE(kevin23 @ Jan 11 2020, 08:18 AM)
Had 2 VW last time.

Masuk workshop every month

Nice to drive but totally unreliable
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my mechanic back at hometown tell me his friend that is VW dealer received a lot of lawyer letter.
got fuck so hard until wanna give up dealership d
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QUOTE(AllnGap @ Jan 11 2020, 07:42 AM)
Passat FB page everytime see ppl asking what's this light, what's that light for.
Then get congratulated for first time going up tow truck

Epic experience. Das AUTO
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Honestly how does a VW of the same class to a BMW or Merc compare in terms of liability? For cars sold in Malaysia that is

For example perhaps the 3 series is in the same class to C class and Passat (?). How do these cars compare?

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QUOTE(kevin23 @ Jan 11 2020, 08:18 AM)
Had 2 VW last time.

Masuk workshop every month

Nice to drive but totally unreliable
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VW is that bad?

What car are you driving now?


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QUOTE(AllnGap @ Jan 11 2020, 08:22 AM)
my mechanic back at hometown tell me his friend that is VW dealer received a lot of lawyer letter.
got fuck so hard until wanna give up dealership d
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Will VW Malaysia honour the warranties after getting the lawyer letters?
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Buy it, which other car can move without clocking much mileage n body wrks stays like show room thru time biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(New Klang @ Jan 11 2020, 08:28 AM)
VW is that bad?

What car are you driving now?
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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Jan 11 2020, 08:24 AM)
Honestly how does a VW of the same class to a BMW or Merc compare in terms of liability? For cars sold in Malaysia that is

For example perhaps the 3 series is in the same class to C class and Passat (?). How do these cars compare?
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Haven't looked into BMW so I don't know the stats.
But I suggest you to avoid hybrid models.

Then join their respective FB groups and see what's ahead. Rule of thumb for Conti is dispose them before 5years.
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Still got people here who buy Volkswagen? biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(AllnGap @ Jan 11 2020, 09:00 AM)
Haven't looked into BMW so I don't know the stats.
But I suggest you to avoid hybrid models.

Then join their respective FB groups and see what's ahead. Rule of thumb for Conti is dispose them before 5years.
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Noted. BMW has 5 year warranty but if you have the option of doing yearly-extensions by paying RM2.3k to them each year (will increase I guess in the future). Choice is yours.

but do you want to drive a 5-year old conti? Well plenty of people do, and nothing is wrong with that. You want the best and latest you have to pay through the nose
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QUOTE(New Klang @ Jan 11 2020, 08:30 AM)
Will VW Malaysia honour the warranties after getting the lawyer letters?
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No idea. I join this group last time to survey for weak points

Conclusion is too many weak points, design flaws.
Mecha unit like must change every 2+years or so (genius engineer put electronic control board beside gear fluid that is boiling hot)
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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Jan 11 2020, 09:08 AM)
Noted. BMW has 5 year warranty but if you have the option of doing yearly-extensions by paying RM2.3k to them each year (will increase I guess in the future). Choice is yours.

but do you want to drive a 5-year old conti? Well plenty of people do, and nothing is wrong with that. You want the best and latest you have to pay through the nose
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Hmmm that payment...is that for the sort of gimmick vw put last time...after 3 years...the next 2 years under insurance and parts warrant adjustor to endorse ?
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VW Passat has become china worst scored car in crash test. So lets get down to VW jokes
Keep the tow truck guy no, you will call this guy more often than your mother
Keep the mechanic or dealer no closer, you will keep on asking when your car will be out. They are like your wife or gf.
To be safe buy 4 VW cars and send them to SC every week for inspection. Visit Workshop
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QUOTE(cockerish @ Jan 11 2020, 09:12 AM)
Hmmm that payment...is that for the sort of gimmick vw put last time...after 3 years...the next 2 years under insurance and parts warrant adjustor to endorse ?
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Something like that. I just bought a 3 that is 1 year old (CBU, director's car, not demo car). So the SA told me if I am worried about the warranty (I am not, I am going in with full intention to be a servant to my debts and car:lol:) I can do that extension. but only after the original 5-year manufacturer warranty is finished. They will do a 72-point inspection of the car, if the car qualifies, we can buy the warranty on an annual basis.

Shit goes wrong, they would repair it for us. basically it is just like the original manufacturer warranty as I understand it.

Btw, BMW's 5-year warranty is full, not some bullshit 3+2 or 2+3 like some of their competitors - very disingenuous of these competitors (I am not sure which ones though)

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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Jan 11 2020, 09:08 AM)
Noted. BMW has 5 year warranty but if you have the option of doing yearly-extensions by paying RM2.3k to them each year (will increase I guess in the future). Choice is yours.

but do you want to drive a 5-year old conti? Well plenty of people do, and nothing is wrong with that. You want the best and latest you have to pay through the nose
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You've got to see what is covered in the warranty, what items are considered as wear and tear.


Anyway if you are okay with burning money might as well lease it.

What for burn money through depreciation and expensive maintenance then drive old car ?
Every 2-3years change new car no need worry about maintenance and problems.

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QUOTE(AllnGap @ Jan 11 2020, 09:10 AM)
No idea. I join this group last time to survey for weak points

Conclusion is too many weak points, design flaws.
Mecha unit like must change every 2+years or so (genius engineer put electronic control board beside gear fluid that is boiling hot)
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Is the genius fired by VW?

What is gear fluid boiling temperature?
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QUOTE(AllnGap @ Jan 11 2020, 09:29 AM)
You've got to see what is covered in the warranty, what items are considered as wear and tear.
Anyway if you are okay with burning money might as well lease it.

What for burn money through depreciation and expensive maintenance then drive old car ?
Every 2-3years change new car no need worry about maintenance and problems.
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True true. I do not plan to do so anyway - the extended warranty.

If you can't afford new, reliable cars, then you cannot afford old, unreliable cars. Your solution is simply to downgrade to a new car that is reliable, usually newer cars are more reliable. That car may be of lower "strature", but if you keep an old BMW/Merc that breaks down often, then you are the true definition of a brand snob.

I do sales, and I cannot afford being stuck on the side of the road, or to be without a car for extended periods of time. Granted, people will chide me for buying a 3 since I prioritize reliability, but it the pre-registered car still has 4 years and 3 months warranty plus free services that I won't skip over the same period. After that? Likely I will sell it off and buy a new one

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with wet dsg, less horsepower, i expect it will not easily breakdown...
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Why use DSG compared to normal auto GB btw?

Do the added weight and complexity provide add performance benefits?
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QUOTE(New Klang @ Jan 11 2020, 09:33 AM)
Is the genius fired by VW?

What is gear fluid boiling temperature?
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they put this board together with sensors in an environment of 80-100°C (heat from gearbox fluid)

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Yup. Now driving Merc A45
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Lol.

Conti car.
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QUOTE(Milupa @ Jan 11 2020, 09:01 AM)
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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Jan 11 2020, 10:10 AM)
Why use DSG compared to normal auto GB btw?

Do the added weight and complexity provide add performance benefits?
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shifts faster, can jump more gears.
but the downside is the controller which is mechatronic unit becomes a wear and tear part. (rebuild if lucky, if not replace whole unit)
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QUOTE(AllnGap @ Jan 11 2020, 10:43 AM)
shifts faster, can jump more gears.
but the downside is the controller which is mechatronic unit becomes a wear and tear part. (rebuild if lucky, if not replace whole unit)
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Hurm why is VW positioning themselves as a performance brand? They should opt for reliability like Toyota.

I look at their cars like Passat, I think of uncles on Camry

I look at their smaller cars, i think of youngsters on Vios

They should use normal, reliable Autos for their normal cars, even the Passat

Save the DSG on CC and Golf/Polo. This is how Bimmer does it, only the M cars have DSG. I believe F80 M3 uses DSG while F30 used 8AT

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fuck they removed the analog clock, better look for pre-reg 19 2.0
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Time to revive this thread lol
My father in law’s dsg already kiok. Stuck at second gear. 2 year old car sad.gif
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QUOTE(Aizat2402 @ Oct 29 2022, 11:50 AM)
Time to revive this thread lol
My father in law’s dsg already kiok. Stuck at second gear. 2 year old car sad.gif
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wet or dry clutch? should be still under warranty 5 years, for passat always get the dsg 6 wet
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the price is so tempting in this range for german car
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Passat is phasing out in VW malaysia
U cant see it on website
Only a few units left from showroom.

Only arteon golf tiguain in their focus
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QUOTE(Jedi @ Oct 29 2022, 12:23 PM)
Passat is phasing out in VW malaysia
U cant see it on website
Only a few units left from showroom.

Only arteon golf tiguain in their focus
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yea they discontinue passat range after 2022, 2022 R line is their last for malaysia

in the next few years they might focus on those electric range VW ID4 etc.

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How long can dsg last?
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QUOTE(New Klang @ Oct 29 2022, 12:28 PM)
How long can dsg last?
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depends on type, usage etc. the usual culprit are mechatronic and clutch on the dry clutch version, but those days are long gone in my opinion

clutch is wear and tear, but wearing out before 100k is not something i would say acceptable.

they are many with wet clutches above 200k doing ok - if you are just driving on highway all the time with minimal gearchange, you will rack up your mileage a lot but not much wear at the gearbox. so "low mileage" can have its bad points

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I plan to collect vw cars that cannot jalan, strip them apart for spare parts

Can my plan work?
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I plan to collect vw cars that cannot jalan, strip them apart for spare parts

Can my plan work?
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there are markets for it for sure, sg halfcut cars, buy halfcut accident cars with many usable items left, and sell it, there are many for sale for golf mk6/5 etc, some new parts are expensive, so why waste used good parts that are still workable.
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QUOTE(New Klang @ Oct 29 2022, 12:31 PM)
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yes it works , please work it out and share the link later
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QUOTE(leaF @ Oct 29 2022, 12:43 PM)
yes it works , please work it out and share the link later
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post Oct 29 2022, 12:45 PM

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QUOTE(New Klang @ Oct 29 2022, 12:44 PM)
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after u finish collect u share the link, in case if i need spare part can find you .
whitegoh
post Apr 27 2023, 01:56 PM

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QUOTE(Aizat2402 @ Oct 29 2022, 11:50 AM)
Time to revive this thread lol
My father in law’s dsg already kiok. Stuck at second gear. 2 year old car sad.gif
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Your father in law is the 2020 model?
TheFrog
post Apr 27 2023, 04:01 PM

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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Jan 11 2020, 12:44 PM)
Hurm why is VW positioning themselves as a performance brand? They should opt for reliability like Toyota.

I look at their cars like Passat, I think of uncles on Camry

I look at their smaller cars, i think of youngsters on Vios

They should use normal, reliable Autos for their normal cars, even the Passat

Save the DSG on CC and Golf/Polo. This is how Bimmer does it, only the M cars have DSG. I believe F80 M3 uses DSG while F30 used 8AT
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VW common problem is only their DSG/Mechatronic on the lower end models, rarely seen an issue on their performance models such as the GTI/R series unless u do stage 2 or 3 without properly tuned or cooling system.

I owned a Golf R before, the most major repair i've done is changing the water pump (2 times) and fuel injectors.

I would say its quite reliable car for everyday use. Just keep it stock.
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post Apr 27 2023, 04:19 PM

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VW Passat w/ the wet clutch DSG is damn reliable already.

I think Gen DQ381, long gone are the days with DQ2 Gen Dry Clutch.

 

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