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post Jan 6 2020, 09:15 AM

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post Jan 6 2020, 09:17 AM

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QUOTE(toda_erika_II @ Jan 6 2020, 09:16 AM)
If adopt to left to right, what is your opinion?
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sucks to be dextrous

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post Jan 6 2020, 09:21 AM

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QUOTE(syazwan @ Jan 6 2020, 09:19 AM)
Kenapa makan guna chopstick kalau ada garfu?
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come to think of it...........there will be smudge marks all over....how is this problem solved?
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post Jan 6 2020, 09:23 AM

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QUOTE(toda_erika_II @ Jan 6 2020, 09:19 AM)
How about block letters? Those joining rules and shape changing takes a while to learn.
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QUOTE(syazwan @ Jan 6 2020, 09:22 AM)
Thats not the point
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It is......how was it written in the old?
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post Jan 6 2020, 09:29 AM

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QUOTE(syazwan @ Jan 6 2020, 09:26 AM)
Smudge marks not due to left to right or right to left.

Are u sure u are replying the right post?
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It is.....scripts that go from right to left is shitty for dexterous people, you'll get smudge marks unless you hover your hand while you write.

How was this managed in the past?

The arabs have no P....so Perak is always Berak.......

Perhaps we can modernise Jawi to approximate to the latin script. Spelling in Jawi will differ greatly than malay spelled in the latin script

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post Jan 6 2020, 09:39 AM

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QUOTE(syazwan @ Jan 6 2020, 09:33 AM)
Sebab tu la orang suruh paham jawi ni bukan benda arab.

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pinjam dari arab........4 abjad dicipta sebab pak arab takde bunyi nga, nya, p dan g.....

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post Jan 6 2020, 10:14 AM

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QUOTE(toda_erika_II @ Jan 6 2020, 10:08 AM)
I was thinking about the smudges also, but that won't be a problem in computer or mobile phone typing nowadays.
More importantly, I was thinking about.. you know, nowadays it's almost always mixed with Roman letters... Just like chinese. Suddenly u see English alphabets or numbers among the Chinese characters. So imagine jawi among the rumi Malays, or numbers among jawi... Have to keep changing reading direction. Then if it's written using pen, have to estimate how many space for the different direction writing.

And also for the lack of alphabets, in the past the Malays have already added few more letters. (Although still lack few sounds now). So in the past, if there was no problem adding it, I don't see a problem to add now. And also, I see some people saying it will be great if we can be like Thailand, have their own handwriting. I understand the want to have own unique identity thus I am not against it. If identity is the main concern here, we don't need to follow existing jawi across the SEA region. Don't even think it was a problem when we already have spellings unique to Malaysia, different from Indonesia. And if identity is really the main concern here, I'm more happy if the government revive rencong alphabets with more extra alphabets to make up for the lack of syllabus (again, if they have did that to arabic changing it to jawi, I see no problem adding new syllabus to rencong).
Thus my question, if it is possible to adopt left to right for practical purposes, not just "oversimplified chopstick vs fork preference debate".
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When it is taught in school, it has to be written in pen and pencil.

Teach it for ceremonial purposes.....not for functional or pragmatic ends.

Given all the malay phonetics, which of the scripts that we have are the best in capturing all sounds? The latin script seems to be able to do everything.
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QUOTE(syazwan @ Jan 6 2020, 10:17 AM)
Why u learn using recorder flute?
Why PJK teach student play hoki or badminton(not swimming or karate)

Why add maths..not even useful for my bank transaction also.
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I can tell you that...

Recorder is cheap, any msian family can afford it...supposedly. In Sg, you won't be just learning a how to play a recorder.

Similarly for PJK, it doesn't take too much to resources to provide a badminton court...all schools can easily provide it. Not all schools can provide hockey faciliaties......
Swimming pool would be a problem, most schools in msia cannot afford to run and maintain it. You go ISKL or Garden International, sure got swimming pool.
Karate classes is also a problem..you need qualified instructors and i believe only the top schools can afford to provide instructors.

Add maths is useful, it's essentially the basis of all first year university courses for engineering, economics and the sciences. Finance also uses it, particularly in the theory of interest.

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