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 Used Prius vs Prius C vs Insight vs New Axia

Which would you choose in your opinion and why?
 
Used Toyota Prius C [ 15 ] ** [26.32%]
Used Honda Insight [ 6 ] ** [10.53%]
New Perodua Axia [ 36 ] ** [63.16%]
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SleeplessEyes
post Dec 27 2019, 10:02 AM

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From what i read majourity of the comments above, majourity voted Axia just because and only because of - New car, warranty, warranty and warranty.

And not the actual driving experience. Nobody talks about it at all.
All want to scare him off.

Oh BTW - you guys haven't heard about SC refusing warranty claims huh. Even if you fully service the damn car at the SC.

Actually Prius is so reliable that some countries like Singapore , uses Hybrid for their Taxi fleet
(I've seen Prius and Hyundai Ioniq being used) .
Its a real test - Driving long distance and being abused at the same time.

For Axia , nothing wrong with Axia also - I'm driving one and liking it. But still cannot compare with Hybrid fuel savings.
Mine can get 17Km/l city or sometimes 16Km/l if I am harder on driving. And its manual BTW. Auto expect 13-4KM/L.
Of course to get such good FC, everything has to be lighter and thinner. Sacrifice in comfort and handling.

So if it were me, I would choose a Hybrid. But with all other cars, just make sure its a good unit.


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post Dec 27 2019, 10:28 AM

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QUOTE(SleeplessEyes @ Dec 27 2019, 10:02 AM)
From what i read majourity of the comments above, majourity voted Axia just because and only because of - New car, warranty, warranty and warranty.

And not the actual driving experience. Nobody talks about it at all.
All want to scare him off.

Oh BTW - you guys haven't heard about SC refusing warranty claims huh. Even if you fully service the damn car at the SC.

Actually Prius is so reliable that some countries like Singapore , uses Hybrid for their Taxi fleet
(I've seen Prius and Hyundai Ioniq being used) .
Its a real test - Driving long distance and being abused at the same time.

For Axia , nothing wrong with Axia also - I'm driving one and liking it. But still cannot compare with Hybrid fuel savings.
Mine can get 17Km/l city or sometimes 16Km/l if I am harder on driving. And its manual BTW. Auto expect 13-4KM/L.
Of course to get such good FC, everything has to be lighter and thinner. Sacrifice in comfort and handling.

So if it were me, I would choose a Hybrid. But with all other cars, just make sure its a good unit.
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i second your last point

one of my relatives bought a used honda insight back in 2015. he bought a 2011 unit like mine as there were rumors that the 2012 had engine oil leaking problem

he went and looked at 9 units before buying one with 60,000km clocked. there were other units with lesser milage, but after seeing several units, that one was the best to him

so far he’s also still using the car but havent reached 200,000km yet i think

oh and to TS, do note that hybrids are not built for racing. u will feel the car quite underpowered. my parents prius was not so bad, but insight mmg feel underpowered if the hybrid battery not fully charged as the electric motor cant help much
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post Dec 27 2019, 03:10 PM

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Get a hybrid to tell everyone you care for the environment
SleeplessEyes
post Dec 27 2019, 03:11 PM

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QUOTE(Hexane @ Dec 27 2019, 10:28 AM)
i second your last point

one of my relatives bought a used honda insight back in 2015. he bought a 2011 unit like mine as there were rumors that the 2012 had engine oil leaking problem

he went and looked at 9 units before buying one with 60,000km clocked. there were other units with lesser milage, but after seeing several units, that one was the best to him

so far he’s also still using the car but havent reached 200,000km yet i think

oh and to TS, do note that hybrids are not built for racing. u will feel the car quite underpowered. my parents prius was not so bad, but insight mmg feel underpowered if the hybrid battery not fully charged as the electric motor cant help much
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my colleague has Insight. Sat in his Insight. Its more like a micro hybrid rather than Prius being full hybrid. Something like Serena Hybrid except Inisght has a way larger proper motor than Serena.
That's why when at traffic light, with the engine Auto Idle stop - Ac also becomes hotter.

The Insight is under power because its only 1.3L + Small hybrid motor vs Prius which has a 1.8L and more powerful motor. But if TS is gonna race in a Prius then no point buying a Hybrid.

Of course the difference between Prius and Insight - Insight relies entirely on the engine to move. The motor is just a part time assistant.
Insight can't crawl in a traffic jam or parking lot without starting the engine unlike Toyota'S Hybrid.

Whereas the Prius or Camry Hybrid, the motor can run independently or together with the engine. Or engine alone.

But the plus point would be if the Insight battery dies, not much effect on the whole car.

Whereas for the Prius.
There is a video by Tyler of Hoovies Garage - He intentionally boight a Prius with a dead battery. car still can run with the engine alone. But later he diy change the battery. Typical American style.

https://youtu.be/lSwUEVx5G3U

There. I've explained enough what happens if the Prius and Insight battery dies.
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post Dec 27 2019, 05:16 PM

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QUOTE(SleeplessEyes @ Dec 27 2019, 10:02 AM)
From what i read majourity of the comments above, majourity voted Axia just because and only because of - New car, warranty, warranty and warranty.

And not the actual driving experience. Nobody talks about it at all.
All want to scare him off.

Oh BTW - you guys haven't heard about SC refusing warranty claims huh. Even if you fully service the damn car at the SC.

Actually Prius is so reliable that some countries like Singapore , uses Hybrid for their Taxi fleet
(I've seen Prius and Hyundai Ioniq being used) .
Its a real test - Driving long distance and being abused at the same time.

For Axia , nothing wrong with Axia also - I'm driving one and liking it. But still cannot compare with Hybrid fuel savings.
Mine can get 17Km/l city or sometimes 16Km/l if I am harder on driving. And its manual BTW. Auto expect 13-4KM/L.
Of course to get such good FC, everything has to be lighter and thinner. Sacrifice in comfort and handling.

So if it were me, I would choose a Hybrid. But with all other cars, just make sure its a good unit.
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Not trying to scare him off, just sharing our thoughts especially when TS mentioned about maintenance & hybrid battery replacement as his concerns.

And naturally a new perodua axia which is under his shortlist have far less to worry when it comes to maintenance.

This post has been edited by budang: Dec 27 2019, 05:16 PM
Hexane
post Dec 27 2019, 05:46 PM

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QUOTE(SleeplessEyes @ Dec 27 2019, 03:11 PM)
my colleague has Insight. Sat in his Insight. Its more like a micro hybrid rather than Prius being full hybrid. Something like Serena Hybrid except Inisght has a way larger proper motor than Serena.
That's why when at traffic light, with the engine Auto Idle stop - Ac also becomes hotter.

The Insight is under power because its only 1.3L + Small hybrid motor vs Prius which has a 1.8L and more powerful motor. But if TS is gonna race in a Prius then no point buying a Hybrid.

Of course the difference between Prius and Insight - Insight relies entirely on the engine to move. The motor is just a part time assistant.
Insight can't crawl in a traffic jam or parking lot without starting the engine unlike Toyota'S Hybrid.

Whereas the Prius or Camry Hybrid, the motor can run independently or together with the engine. Or engine alone.

But the plus point would be if the Insight battery dies, not much effect on the whole car.

Whereas for the Prius.
There is a video by Tyler of Hoovies Garage - He intentionally boight a Prius with a dead battery. car still can run with the engine alone. But later he diy change the battery. Typical American style.

https://youtu.be/lSwUEVx5G3U

There. I've explained enough what happens if the Prius and Insight battery dies.
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i love how the prius feels like a spaceship of a car when you turn it on in the morning. just the lcd light up, then a humming motor noise, until u reach around 20km/H or battery depleted, then the 1.8L engine roars

i agree that the insight dont feel like a hybrid. for its time where not many auto start/stop cars were around, it was considered new. but the insight lost the hybrid race against prius pretty badly. however, it is still a rather decent car in general

i think the only reason why the insight can still get better scores than other hatchbacks is due to it’s regenerative braking (duhhh)

TS, if u want hybrid, get a prius rather than an insight. cabin also feels bigger in the prius. plus, the futuristic feeling really sells the hybrid experience
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post Dec 28 2019, 08:01 PM

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QUOTE(Hexane @ Dec 27 2019, 05:46 PM)
i love how the prius feels like a spaceship of a car when you turn it on in the morning. just the lcd light up, then a humming motor noise, until u reach around 20km/H or battery depleted, then the 1.8L engine roars

i agree that the insight dont feel like a hybrid. for its time where not many auto start/stop cars were around, it was considered new. but the insight lost the hybrid race against prius pretty badly. however, it is still a rather decent car in general

i think the only reason why the insight can still get better scores than other hatchbacks is due to it’s regenerative braking (duhhh)

TS, if u want hybrid, get a prius rather than an insight. cabin also feels bigger in the prius. plus, the futuristic feeling really sells the hybrid experience
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Thank you every brossss for your time and input. I'm sorry as I was running around yesterday and didn't have time to reply. Much Much appreciated.

Yes bro. Not planning to use it like a sport car. I'm from ipoh, so if I were to take up grab for part time, I believe I can't wreck it much as well, since people here will take all the lanes as slow lanes and traffic light everywhere. So won't have much opportunity to floor the gas. hahahahahaha.

Yes, I've already dropped Insight in my brain. Now looking at Prius and Axia mainly.

But I've yet to manage to find out what are the actual cost of things like invertor, air cond and stuff replacement at sc or outside workshop for Prius. sad.gif

and also I heard that rebuilding the battery will cost much lower but I can't find much comment on how good it will be and how much it would cost comparing to a whole new unit at 6k-7k.

I'm also curious, the 8 years warranty are only for Hybrid battery right?

and can I request the used car dealer that I take the car to a workshop to get it check? Can it be done at toyota S.C.? Normally how much would it cost at S.C and workshop outside for inspection service? and I heard Tee and Tee workshop is superb for hybrid car, any bro had any experience dealing with them before?

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post Dec 28 2019, 08:04 PM

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QUOTE(SleeplessEyes @ Dec 27 2019, 10:02 AM)
From what i read majourity of the comments above, majourity voted Axia just because and only because of - New car, warranty, warranty and warranty.

And not the actual driving experience. Nobody talks about it at all.
All want to scare him off.

Oh BTW - you guys haven't heard about SC refusing warranty claims huh. Even if you fully service the damn car at the SC.

Actually Prius is so reliable that some countries like Singapore , uses Hybrid for their Taxi fleet
(I've seen Prius and Hyundai Ioniq being used) .
Its a real test - Driving long distance and being abused at the same time.

For Axia , nothing wrong with Axia also - I'm driving one and liking it. But still cannot compare with Hybrid fuel savings.
Mine can get 17Km/l city or sometimes 16Km/l if I am harder on driving. And its manual BTW. Auto expect 13-4KM/L.
Of course to get such good FC, everything has to be lighter and thinner. Sacrifice in comfort and handling.

So if it were me, I would choose a Hybrid. But with all other cars, just make sure its a good unit.
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You're right bro, I believe Axia is a good car as well. biggrin.gif but I think I tend to think that the driving experience slightly better with a Prius.

Do you remember stories about SC refusing to honor the warranty claim? Would like to find out more.

Any tips on how to choose and see if a used car unit is a good unit? biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
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post Dec 28 2019, 08:06 PM

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QUOTE(budang @ Dec 27 2019, 05:16 PM)
Not trying to scare him off, just sharing our thoughts especially when TS mentioned about maintenance & hybrid battery replacement as his concerns.

And naturally a new perodua axia which is under his shortlist have far less to worry when it comes to maintenance.
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hahahaha. thanks bro. Yes, I don't think those comment are not on the purpose of scaring me of a used hybrid. I totally appreciated everyone for their opinion and help.

and yes, Axia does have the pro of having a warranty and I appreciate everyone that mentioned it. biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
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post Dec 28 2019, 08:11 PM

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QUOTE(jhjk @ Dec 26 2019, 05:32 PM)
Forgot already. tongue.gif

For your reference:
http://www.perodua.com.my/service-maintenance/axia/20
Engine oil + filter + gasket + labour should cost you less than RM200.
They recommend every 6 months go back service but you can go back before the 8th month if you haven't hit 10k km.

What's your driving style? Aggressive or light footed?
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Thank you brother for your effort to find this for me. If only my words can repay your time and efforts. biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

My driving style are more of hmm, somewhere in between, not aggressive but not too light either. and as I'm in Ipoh, we can only drive so fast in town and most of the area, as people will normally hog both lane with 50kmh - 60kmh. hahahahaha. and the amount of bump increased in the main city area! and also the number traffic lights.

So I'm definitely more light footed than the way I used to drive back when I was in KL but slightly heavier than those super chill one.
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post Dec 28 2019, 08:15 PM

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QUOTE(dvinez @ Dec 27 2019, 09:36 AM)
are those suppose to be oversea review?
with local weather and road condition i will consider parts lasting 150K a blessing

prius expensive when purchased but look at the price now, dealer know the risk and market

my relative bought an used prius this year, he bought it without knowing the pros and cons
cannot deny that QC is good and fitting is still decent for 10 years old car
it is good if it can last that long, since you are defending i suppose you really wanted the hybrid
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Bro, may I know how's his Prius doing for him so far? Does he like it or regret it?

hahahahaha. Yea, I'm kind of more towards a Prius as I drove a Viva last time, as much as it's really worth the price and no complain, but it was kind of too thin and the sound that the roof make when it's under the rain really wasn't my favorite thing about it.
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post Dec 28 2019, 08:21 PM

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I bought a 2013 Prius C last year. So far so good and not giving me any problem. Power, safety, Airbags, handling, interior space, quiet and comfort, Axia no where near to Prius C. Average mileage was 22-23km/L. Insight can't run in Full EV mode.

This post has been edited by ToyotaKaki: Dec 28 2019, 08:26 PM
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post Dec 28 2019, 08:40 PM

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QUOTE(ToyotaKaki @ Dec 28 2019, 08:21 PM)
I bought a 2013 Prius C last year. So far so good and not giving me any problem. Power, safety, Airbags, handling, interior space, quiet and comfort, Axia no where near to Prius C. Average mileage was 22-23km/L. Insight can't run in Full EV mode.
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Thanks bro, glad that you're enjoying it. biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

May I find out a few things from you?
Why did you choose Prius C over Prius?
Did you got it from a dealer or direct owner?
Did you send it for an inspection prior the purchase? Where and how?
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post Dec 30 2019, 09:47 AM

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QUOTE(lukejey @ Dec 28 2019, 08:15 PM)
Bro, may I know how's his Prius doing for him so far? Does he like it or regret it?

hahahahaha. Yea, I'm kind of more towards a Prius as I drove a Viva last time, as much as it's really worth the price and no complain, but it was kind of too thin and the sound that the roof make when it's under the rain really wasn't my favorite thing about it.
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so far so good. he is very happy with it. definitely no regret.
that is for now, as he is not the kind that willing to pay for expensive part which cost 20-30% of car value.

my simple advice for you.
if you intend to buy an used car and pray nothing will fail, then you are basically driving a time bomb. no peace of mind.

 

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