Well, it is time for the boys to show some semblance of pride. What happens during the next game (against an Iran side desperate to boost their goal difference, isn't it) will be a good indicator of the future of Malaysian football.
a) Will we roll over and get steamrolled 6, 7 nil? Or will we finally
b) Put up a decent show and at least exit with some pride?

WTF? So all our players (that you have incidently spent quite a fair bit on) are useless and you need to find millions to groom newbies... wake up and smell the coffee dudes, you are the pathetic ones, don't blame the players

I think that is under 21 or something. Not the regular arsenal.

I think that is under 21 or something. Not the regular arsenal.

I've seen a number of comments saying that we played too defensive a game. Well, this proves how much some of the 'lalang' here know about football. I recall one of the comentators saying that "You must learn not to lose before you can learn how to win." In football this is very true, even teams like Manchester United and Liverpool line up defensively when playing superior opposition, and Iran is indeed much, much superior when compared to us. Remember Greece and their Euro victory... the were ultra defensive too.

The question now is why did the players not show the same spirit and determination in the two earlier games? From what I saw yesterday, we do have the skill, but not the heart. Looks like the boys only started playing when everyone was crying for their necks!

In the meantime, what do we do? Distance ourselves from tournaments and become football 'backward', remember how long it took for the English clubs to establish themselves in Europe after their exile? Or send the same group of players to the 'korban' and slide further down the rankings - i.e. more humiliation?

did u guys watched TV3 news at 8 just now... do u know Lim Teong Kim is the coach for Bayern Munich youth squad?

Teong Kim says sad state of affairs due to lack of infrastructure
By ERIC SAMUEL

PETALING JAYA: Former international Lim Teong Kim is not surprised at all over the sad state of affairs in Malaysian football.

The assistant coach of Bayern Munich Under-19 football team said that the dismal showing of the national team in the Asian Cup Finals was expected and the lack of infrastructure had hindered the growth of the game in the country.

"Bayern Munich are the top club in Germany. We have a very good infrastructure - five training fields and more coming up soon," said Teong Kim, who is here to check out the facilities for the club's participation in the Champions Youth Cup (CYC), which kicks off on Aug 8.

Bayern Munich are in Group D and their matches against Malaysia, Chelsea and PSV Eindhoven will be played in Kuching.

"We have a complete infrastructure to cater for the professional team and also the youth teams. In fact, we have 11 youth teams in age-group between eight and 23. The other clubs in the Bundesliga also have a similar set-up."

In the Finals, Malaysia lost all three matches in Group C. They were thrashed by China (1-5) and Uzbekistan (0-5) and were beaten 0-2 by Iran.

The 44-year-old Teong Kim said it was not fair to put the blame on the team when changes were not made to check the rot in the system.

He added that he had left the country for almost two decades but he had not seen changes or concerted efforts to develop the game, even in his home state Malacca where he started out playing for at the age of 17.

"When football is still the same here after so many years, how can we expect to see any changes to the game or standard? Why criticise the present batch of players and keep banging them on their heads for failures when no one cares for the development of the game," he said.

"Football is a national agenda. I feel that every state should have an ideal infrastructure to develop the game.

"I have been in Bayern Munich for eight years now. Even the eight-year-old players travel extensively to play in invitational tournaments to gain experience. There are eight professional coaches at the youth level and players get plenty of exposure.

"The facilities are well-equipped with dressing rooms, rehabilitation rooms, physiotherapy, sauna and relaxation rooms.

"In Germany, we have technical problems but no infrastructure problems. If there are no fields how can the coaches get to work?

"The National Sports School in Bukit Jalil alone is not good enough. State FAs must get their infrastructure in place otherwise they cannot expect to produce results.

"I am just trying to pass my experience and knowledge learnt in Bayern Munich. It is difficult to see success if changes are not made. There is a saying in Germany - changes bring prosperity, contentment brings complacency."

Teong Kim was a member of the national team who won the gold medal in the Kuala Lumpur SEA Games in 1989. That was the last time the national senior team emerged as the champions of the regional international tournament.

He added that there was no point in coaxing players to ply their trade abroad if they had no desire to go in the first place.

"I left to play in the Bundesliga in 1988 because I had the desire to do it," said Teong Kim, who played for Division Two club Hertha Berlin.

But we have spent so much on infrastructure and the cause is still infrastructure? Shouldn't it be manpower

the sports complex in England or whatever?
The National Sports Complex????

State teams hould be banned from the start of professionalism era. Leaves local competitions to clubs.

State FA's should concentrate on player development and organising local state leagues and competition. In this way each state could become factories producing high quality players.

The problem was most money that FAM given to FAs were used on the current state teams and hiring expensive low quality foreigners and left little for player development in their academies.

So FAM, please no more state teams. state=politics

Have anyone read the star. Our old time footballer Lim Teong Kim is actually asst coach for Bayer Munich under-18. We did have talent ppl around. Just let these ppl to do the handling. For the sake of our football, politician please stay away from it! I think gov should start regulation for baning any politician or minister involve in any activities other than their job.
Malaysia football is like getting cancer, cancer from those business ppl. Take money, built these and that, organized these and that. But they are not profesional just spend the money around.
Football is not business, you can't let ppl tender to handle project. They are killing the game. Yes we can survive in our business becoz we like in kampung. But football we are competing with international. That's why we can't survive. We are just jaguh kampung.

Except that the sports complex in England is a scam. Check this out:

all the iraqis players trained and played in the arab's league except for one player