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post Jul 19 2007, 03:13 PM

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fergie/jet li once said before the best way of defend is to attack icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Jul 19 2007, 03:13 PM

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No one propose Jose Mourinho or Roy Keanne?? hehehe.. just joking...I dun think any foreign coach will come to manage Malaysian squad.. If can, get Italian or german coach...And I think FAM shud do alot scouting around the states, find more tall people for defenders and keeper.. and then send them overseas training...

Australian have averages players around 1.85m, some of their defender is 1.90m.... thats damn tall and yet they can run longer distance... advantage for heading.. gaya pun ade...

Eh I tot they said they will bring Titus back to play in Asian Cup? No news 1?
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post Jul 19 2007, 03:19 PM

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"Play a Defensive Game"

that doesn't work for malaysia because they can't defend for nuts. even with 11 men behind the ball.
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post Jul 19 2007, 03:21 PM

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Last nite M'sia only lost 2 nil which I think is quite a good result albeit helped by incompetence finishing by Iran.

BUT I'm gonna vomit blood if somehow some genius inside FAM praise the performance until sky high or worst still reward them for the combative performance. doh.gif

Can't help but thinking this way as M'sia has a way of over rewarding decent result shakehead.gif
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post Jul 19 2007, 03:26 PM

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QUOTE(spikeee @ Jul 19 2007, 03:19 PM)
"Play a Defensive Game"

that doesn't work for malaysia because they can't defend for nuts. even with 11 men behind the ball.
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Oh, and how do we come to that conclusion? I think the did pretty well last night when the coach finally got his tactics right? had luck been on our side we would have scored two on the counter attack as well.

Oh wait, I forgot, it IS fashionable to BASH our national team. Sorry.

On another note, a decent performance and one deserving of a reward are two very very different things! Like what vreis said, no awards for being 'less crap' please!
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post Jul 19 2007, 03:31 PM

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QUOTE(vreis @ Jul 19 2007, 03:21 PM)
Last nite M'sia only lost 2 nil which I think is quite a good result albeit helped by incompetence finishing by Iran.

BUT I'm gonna vomit blood if somehow some genius inside FAM praise the performance until sky high or worst still reward them for the combative performance.  doh.gif

Can't help but thinking this way as M'sia has a way of over rewarding decent result  shakehead.gif
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dude... it should've been 5-0 ler... 3 shots hit the woodwork, remember? damn the rain! hehehe

anyway, yeah Matlan Marjan is from Sabah. i was there from 2002 to 2005 and watched him coach a local team.. this team beat Sabah team la weh! full strength summore...

btw madmoz... i wonder, how many malaysia games did u go and watched? say like in the past 5 years? it's very frustrating when u go and support and they promises this and that.. and no improvement from one year to the next... i know.. i was there....

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post Jul 19 2007, 03:35 PM

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QUOTE(madmoz @ Jul 19 2007, 02:39 PM)
In the meantime, what do we do? Distance ourselves from tournaments and become football 'backward', remember how long it took for the English clubs to establish themselves in Europe after their exile? Or send the same group of players to the 'korban' and slide further down the rankings - i.e. more humiliation?


Good question. I think it's a commonly accepted fact that this generation of footballers and the next are not the ones that are going to raise our profile in world football. I reiterate, I think so because they do not have the 3 attributes I mentioned earlier; a) Intelligence/Education, b) Mental Toughness and c) the required Physical attributes. It is probably safe to assume that our downward spiral will continue especially if we play higher ranked opposition (heaven forbid we should start losing consistently to basement teams). To be honest, I could care less what happens to our current team. It may take another 5 - 10 years, but focus should really be put on grooming candidates from an early age (say 8 - 13), who possess the attributes I mentioned above. That being said, these kids have to want to play football for a living as well. In the meantime, I do think we should stay away from International tournaments, why waste time and money? The FAM has always gotten as much money as they have wanted and it's time to put a stop to this. It's time to practice meritocracy.

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post Jul 19 2007, 03:42 PM

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agreed with u there duke

even the cabinet is angry with FAM rite now because football is the major sport that received majority of the government support and $$. I do agree a total revamp of FAM.

20+years waiting for glory... still waiting... haih...
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post Jul 19 2007, 04:42 PM

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Through all this year, M'sia have been getting worst rather than getting better. What, Why , How ....all this question prompt out whenever they faces a lose. Now the prob become more critical, as our supporter lif up a banner during the match which i forgot the content de. This really make the player and the coach really dissapointed and even the FAM. As the result, Chief of FAM hand over his place, coach been sacked, a datuk had recommed himself as the position for Cheif for FA & i think still got other issue that we dun know. Will all this improve our nation football team's quality?? Will they improve?? I think rather then improve the nation team 1st , is better to start to improve our Malaysia football league 1st. Bcos from there we can improve our nation player, from there the player themself can improve their skill, strategy and etc. Or even organize the football competition for the youth player more aggresively.
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post Jul 19 2007, 04:52 PM

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I don't think anything can be done from now onwards regarding our current first team. If i had the choice 90% of the senior team would be thrown out and the u-21s be promoted. At least they seem to have more fight in them. Get a good manager in (if it has to be a foreigner so be it) and start planning for the future. We have the resources to do it. It's baffling enough that it took a poor showing in a tournament to get it rolling. But better late than never.
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ever noticed that a good midfielder will make out for a good manager? hehehe.. maybe because they way they manage the field, helps them become a good manager.

now, having said that, i believe the u-21 should be promoted and starts training as senior squad. if we need seniors, then pick up a couple and have them mentor the kids... but mentoring what? they never did anything good... just a lot of bad decisions.... so, i think just leave it be.

start the revolution!
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post Jul 19 2007, 06:07 PM

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yups which makes me reiterate as well that after 20+ years of waiting and the sultan can still say "i won't quit because i'm not a quitter" lol.

it's something like saying "when the going gets tough, the tough gets going". he never got going
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Well, i guess the way to go is to bring in some African or even East European, maybe even South American, players and make them naturalized Malaysians... Its not a big deal unless those so-called nationalists make lots of noise...

Hey, France itself is made up of lots of different people who are not native Frenchmen... Many of the blacks there are from the former French colonies from Africa, such as Senegal, Cote' de Ivorie, and even Morocco... Or if u take a closer-to-home look, Singapore has ppl like Agu Casmir (Nigeria), Fahrudin Mustafic (Bosnia), and Daniel Benet (England), to name a few playing for their national team...
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QUOTE(Haunkiem @ Jul 18 2007, 03:15 AM)
how do you know what is great and what is not ?

where you around then ? No . have you seen any of the old games ? No . Ever even played competitive football even in primary ? No.  Ever even played the game regularly ? No.

How long have you followed football ? Jumping on the bandwagon because watching Beckham's hair style made your hands reach for the netherparts of your body don't count for anything , tell you that free.

So how can you talk ? 

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thank you for ur comment and now i'm just gonna show you how blank you are.

statistics and history don't lie. what was the proudest moment? Qualification to Moscow Olympics? Erm, anything else? Hey tell me, how could that be 'great'?
Everybody is now talking about how good we were back then is because we really suck big time now. Yep, we were better team before this but "great"? Oh puhlezz don't lie to urself lil kid.
go get some education twat. seeing that you are my fellow malaysian i'll give u a tip now. go to google.com and look up for the "great" and understand the definition before pretending to be smart, aite?

And if you still wanna flame, PM me and leave this thread clean from your so-called wise opinion, fool.

Okay, if you insist... alrite we were great...by malaysian standard that is.

Hope you can finally sleep tonite...

Awhhhh god....

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so FAM paid iran FA not to score so much or what ?

so is it confirm malaysia leak the most goal in the group matches in the history of asia cup ?

wow, we should be proud man... we got an unbeatable record in asia cup
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QUOTE(kcng @ Jul 19 2007, 07:29 PM)
so FAM paid iran FA not to score so much or what ?

so is it confirm malaysia leak the most goal in the group matches in the history of asia cup ?


wow, we should be proud man... we got an unbeatable record in asia cup
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Nope. They didn't create that history since they avoided a huge defeat last night.
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yups which makes me reiterate as well that after 20+ years of waiting and the sultan can still say "i won't quit because i'm not a quitter" lol.

it's something like saying "when the going gets tough, the tough gets going". he never got going
I believed he really thought that he has done some darn amazing achievements for country and proud of them such as -> super leagues, bla3.. but cannot accept the fact that there might be more qualified persons to replace his job.. man..what kind of mentality is that?

malaysia is rich with good facilities unlike Iraq (I suppose) but the management s[_]cks big time.. sad.gif
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QUOTE(Phoenix_Cypher_K1 @ Jul 19 2007, 08:12 PM)
Nope. They didn't create that history since they avoided a huge defeat last night.
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WHAT THE FISH ?!?!?!?
MALAYSIA CANNOT EVEN MAKE HISTORY AS THE MOST GOAL LEAK ?
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so much for malaysia boleh ?

the least they could do is to leak in the most goal so that people will remember malaysia by
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post Jul 19 2007, 11:03 PM

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FAM management.. please quit.. now i got no face to say i am malaysian already.. infamous for leaking 12 goals in AFC!!

when i go to foreign land, especially football land (england, brazil).. i will say i will be from the land above singapore.. and hope their geographic knowledge is low

if high.. then they will be like.. O.O U FROM THERE MATE? THE ONE WHO BEING TRASH AND SCORE NO POINT IN AFC?
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post Jul 20 2007, 12:05 AM

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i have no fear saying i'm malaysian because i never supported or thought anything of them footballers.

lol hahaha

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