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post Jul 16 2007, 02:00 PM

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i seriously think that we should import foreign players to play for our country for now.. not that our national players have no quality, but they are too 'blind' to play.. dunno what to do when they got the ball...
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post Jul 16 2007, 02:00 PM

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QUOTE(Raikkonen @ Jul 16 2007, 01:56 PM)
For the sake of 50 years independence...Malaysia will make a hattrik...5-0 against Iran  rolleyes.gif
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i hope is 10-0, so it will be 1 - 20

what a record!!! can't be break for the next 10000 years in the history of asia cup or any cup final ...
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post Jul 16 2007, 02:05 PM

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QUOTE(hk_loo @ Jul 16 2007, 02:00 PM)
i hope is 10-0, so it will be 1 - 20

what a record!!! can't be break for the next 10000 years in the history of asia cup or any cup final ...
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Yeah then at least ppl will remember M'sia football team rclxms.gif

BTW any chance of Iran better their record win over Maldives? 17-0 if not mistaken hmm.gif
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post Jul 16 2007, 02:07 PM

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i don't think we are so teruk until 17-0... maldives we can still beat kwah?
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post Jul 16 2007, 02:10 PM

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QUOTE(PrinceOfPersia @ Jul 16 2007, 11:33 AM)
u don't know ka?

Ibrahim Saad - former Reading's Forward
Raja Ahmad - former Ajax's Midfielder

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don't know their face made from what, tak tahu malu  vmad.gif , Ibrahim Saad basic salary RM12K  shocking.gif
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impressive, i never knew malaysian played for ajax.
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post Jul 16 2007, 02:11 PM

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QUOTE(hk_loo @ Jul 16 2007, 01:47 PM)
i think the players will be damn happy if the national team are banned ... so they can concentrate 100% on club football and earn more money....
cannot! how are they going to show off? laugh.gif

actually i can't find any ways to improve the national squad already as long as the players attitude towards club football is not changed ...
malaysian players need to use their brain..more!

rombak FAM ? what for ? same type of person take charge
agree with this one, politic mah  doh.gif

send our youth go brazil ?
cannot lar bro, they will missed mommy's cooking. brazil where got nasi lemak,roti canai and rendang? laugh.gif

hire fergie's type coach ?
also will not works. this certain 'orang berpengaruh sikit' will call him and told him you will get fired if my son/relatives not entered into the 1st team list. even if he sucks big time in football. again, politic mah  doh.gif
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..........our football at it's all time low.
maybe malaysian football need some houdini's act sweat.gif

nah...we already 'taruh kow-kow' on our national football team here.
how about forming a LYF team and request a match against our national team? if FAM will ever entertain us in the 1st place tongue.gif
just so that we're not be branded as...'cakap x serupa bikin'? laugh.gif

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post Jul 16 2007, 02:17 PM

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QUOTE(Sheep319 @ Jul 16 2007, 01:47 PM)
Eh, was there any Chinese players in the Malaysian squad?
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hmm chinese players? not yet up to the mark, indian and malay the same too. Malaysians what do you expect? Put 11 chinese or 11 indian can win?
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post Jul 16 2007, 02:25 PM

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QUOTE(zepple @ Jul 16 2007, 02:17 PM)
hmm chinese players? not yet up to the mark, indian and malay the same too. Malaysians what do you expect? Put 11 chinese or 11 indian can win?
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Does it matter put who in the national team when there is politics involved? Not even a fare selection of footballer ever exist before, so what we can expect?

BTW... does anyone forget to put this 10 goals as the most humiliating football match in the Malaysia Book of Records ?

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post Jul 16 2007, 02:30 PM

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QUOTE(zepple @ Jul 16 2007, 02:17 PM)
hmm chinese players? not yet up to the mark, indian and malay the same too. Malaysians what do you expect? Put 11 chinese or 11 indian can win?
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Make a mix rice is better than having just white rice.
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post Jul 16 2007, 03:02 PM

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QUOTE(pkiensing @ Jul 16 2007, 02:25 PM)
Does it matter put who in the national team when there is politics involved? Not even a fare selection of footballer ever exist before, so what we can expect?

BTW... does anyone forget to put this 10 goals as the most humiliating football match in the Malaysia Book of Records ?

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agreed, there is never been a fair players selection in malaysia. Look at Bristish, nowadays more black players in the squad compare to many years ago.
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post Jul 16 2007, 05:36 PM

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QUOTE(Spiv @ Jul 16 2007, 02:30 PM)
Make a mix rice is better than having just white rice.
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Urghh, doesnt matter what rice, what matters is the cook, the damn cook. A good cook can make a plain rice into heavenly tasty dinner, not some overnite left over.

Malaysia should be playing 10-0-0 to save stamina and try to save some face. Its not like when last time we do 0-0 with saudi arab because the sabah goally catch all the shots, we need all the legs and hands to prevent a goal now.
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post Jul 16 2007, 06:06 PM

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QUOTE(Grengo01 @ Jul 16 2007, 11:45 AM)
After more than 20 years father and son leeching onto the FA... screwing up every possible development plan.. now they resign.... interesting.. showing resposibility eh? They should have resigned long time ago when the nation lost the 1984 Olympic Qualification.

The writing was on the wall back then with no quality coming through the ranks. Development at state sucks! They save 1 season and spend the next just to win honours at Malaysia Cup level. They have no F*cking interest in developing the game at School and Youth level.

You see musical chairs being played by the "so called" top players going from state to state like mercenaries. National duty is one of a holiday break for them.

The next person that comes in, well we will see if he needs to spend at least 10 years to develop the game at grassroot level. Not many people play the game now... no thanks to the "glamourous" publicity by FAM except by those kampung folks. Playing football you need:

1. Footballing brain
2. Skills
3. Mental toughness

Our current crop of players cant even trap a ball nor string 3 passes around decently, let alone creating space with clever runs and with heads hung low after conceeding 1 goal... they have absolutely NONE OF THE ABOVE.
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they have dribbling skills actually, but can only dribble past one opponent, then passing hancur
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post Jul 16 2007, 06:10 PM

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Taken from chinapress : 5 factors on why Malaysia perform bad in AFC

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Very good review ... nod.gif
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QUOTE(Spiv @ Jul 16 2007, 02:30 PM)
Make a mix rice is better than having just white rice.
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blame the parents.. u should know y

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aw man... how i long for those days... playing for glory... playing your hearts out...


QUOTE(madmoz @ Jul 16 2007, 11:18 AM)
"We must face the reality that we can't go far with the present batch of national players. We must start grassroots development again."

some FAM official (i think, there's so many of them it's mind boggling) quoted in NST.

WTF? So all our players (that you have incidently spent quite a fair bit on) are useless and you need to find millions to groom newbies... wake up and smell the coffee dudes, you are the pathetic ones, don't blame the players
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that's what they say 20 years ago... i'm still waiting...
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post Jul 16 2007, 06:55 PM

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How long will FAM not understand? Becoz of them Malaysian lost it's supporters. The longer they stay, the less popular football has become. Evan local don't want to play for national team anymore.

In the words of Osim, "In my country FAM is muka tembok that ate kepala batu."
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post Jul 16 2007, 10:25 PM

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Actually people are too late in their complaints . 5-0 and 5-1 vs China and Uzbeckistan is not outside the realm of expectation.

We have been having this kind of result for the last 10-15 years , it should not be a surprise to anyone . China and Uzbeck are not p*u**ssy teams .

If it is 5-0 vs say Singapore , then yeah you are all 100% justified.


QUOTE(easypeasy @ Jul 15 2007, 12:49 AM)
Do you know about our local football or not? We've got only 2 major leagues, the Super League is like the EPL, and the Premier League is like the Championship in England. The Super League is supposed to be more competitive and more entertaining as it got the best team in Malaysia but sadly the quality for both leagues is the same (low Q). Then we have the FA Cup, like in England and the Piala Malaysia, the more prestigious cup than any other competition in the country. For me with these league & cup format it should provide enough competition for the players.
I used to watch the M-League and even before it was called the M-League. Back then it was very entertaining. But now if like you said we need to send the players to play outside, which country do you want? Brazil? England? To be honest the current 'professional' players we have in our league are crap, and I think they won't even make it in a Sunday League team in England. We have good schoolboys (eg. U-12 Danone Cup team) but when they grew up they became crap. Whose fault is this? FAM didn't  polish the kids properly. With loads of money from their budget they should learn from the likes of Arsenal on how to coach schoolkids. They should improve the training facilities, get top coaches around the world to teach them etc, NOT spending those money to go to Europe for friendlies. Europe are years ahead of us; we go there and kena belasah & get home malu la wei FAM. Why not make friendlies with other SEA or Asian teams? Cheaper also. Then the national team have the tendency to kumpul all the players like a month or two before a tourney, how can they develop understanding with each other? Look at the European nations, they have friendlies for every what, 2months? That's good for the nations to find new players who can play for the national team as well as trying new formations and see how it works. These things are not rocket sciences even a mat rempit can also tell you how to make the footbal in this country better. I will be surprised if none of the FAM committee resigns. Things need to be changed, like the song Wind of Change. I like that song man. Until then "Qualify for World Cup 20xx my @ss"
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I agree and if you are in Bristol , you will certainly know what the " amateur " standard in UK is like - DAMN HIGH .

I played in the MIddlesex county league , and apart from 1 day training plus 1 match a week , everyone I knew did their own training , I used to run 2-3 miles DAILY just to be fit enough to keep up with the play come match day .

It was THAT intense , the UK jinjangs take this VERY VERY seriously and anyone who doesn't perform will get :

1) fcuked like sh1t

2) dropped no matter who you are .

And " Amateur " footy in UK is harder then the pros coz the play is VERY rough , a lot of fouls aren't even given , and the pitches are sometimes real shit .

We were only given transport costs and for injuries , nothing else . Everyone played for the love of the game , money kills the desire , which is what happened in Malaysia.

So I agree with you , in this environment , our pampered pondan players won't last 2 weeks . Like you say no metal toughness.

Now of course , if we had Mohktar , James Wong , Jamal Nasir , Bakri Ibni , Yip Chee keong etc and we sent them overseas for training .

Fcuk me , we would be talking about WC qualification already .

But we are light years away from that . the rest I agree with you .

This post has been edited by Haunkiem: Jul 16 2007, 10:28 PM
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QUOTE(Haunkiem @ Jul 16 2007, 10:25 PM)
Actually people are too late in their complaints . 5-0 and 5-1 vs China and Uzbeckistan is not outside the realm of expectation.

We have been having this kind of result for the last 10-15 years , it should not be a surprise to anyone . China and Uzbeck are not p*u**ssy teams .

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Actually, if we played well on those matches, had spirit and determination, losing by such a score also we won't bash so heavily.

But what we saw on those two games was totally rubbish and unacceptable. We had a bunch of schoolgirls out there against 11 REAL football players.
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Ok , then I guess be thankful we didn't lose by more . sad.gif
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QUOTE(easypeasy @ Jul 15 2007, 12:49 AM)
Do you know about our local football or not? We've got only 2 major leagues, the Super League is like the EPL, and the Premier League is like the Championship in England. The Super League is supposed to be more competitive and more entertaining as it got the best team in Malaysia but sadly the quality for both leagues is the same (low Q). Then we have the FA Cup, like in England and the Piala Malaysia, the more prestigious cup than any other competition in the country. For me with these league & cup format it should provide enough competition for the players.
agree with u...still remember why they came out with super league...it a solution at the time b'coz they find out that our player played less game compare to other country's league...example england...so they make another league..that is Super League...so this will give the opportunity for our player to play more...always maintain their fitness...yadada yadada...

QUOTE(easypeasy @ Jul 15 2007, 12:49 AM)
I used to watch the M-League and even before it was called the M-League. Back then it was very entertaining. But now if like you said we need to send the players to play outside, which country do you want? Brazil? England? To be honest the current 'professional' players we have in our league are crap, and I think they won't even make it in a Sunday League team in England.
malaysia's league use to enjoyable and interesting to watch...it used too...i think it goes along way back when i'm in primary school...now..i donno...when i watch few games...it so boring...malaysia's player doesn't seem to shine compare to the import player....

QUOTE(easypeasy @ Jul 15 2007, 12:49 AM)
We have good schoolboys (eg. U-12 Danone Cup team) but when they grew up they became crap. Whose fault is this? FAM didn't  polish the kids properly. With loads of money from their budget they should learn from the likes of Arsenal on how to coach schoolkids. They should improve the training facilities, get top coaches around the world to teach them etc, NOT spending those money to go to Europe for friendlies. Europe are years ahead of us; we go there and kena belasah & get home malu la wei FAM. Why not make friendlies with other SEA or Asian teams? Cheaper also. Then the national team have the tendency to kumpul all the players like a month or two before a tourney, how can they develop understanding with each other? Look at the European nations, they have friendlies for every what, 2months? That's good for the nations to find new players who can play for the national team as well as trying new formations and see how it works. These things are not rocket sciences even a mat rempit can also tell you how to make the footbal in this country better.
yeah...i think malaysia got lot of talents...for example..look at our junior team...they really good actually..at least there are still competitive...but mark my word, they going to face problem when they joining the senior team or when turning pro...all got screwed up...i donno what went wrong..

if it not b'coz of our junior team...i don't think that malaysia can even beat myTeam...sure kalah...if i not mistaken...during that game...malaysia's team represent by mixed of senior and junior team...

QUOTE(eskimore @ Jul 16 2007, 02:00 PM)
i seriously think that we should import foreign players to play for our country for now.. not that our national players have no quality, but they are too 'blind' to play.. dunno what to do when they got the ball...
yaa..if we want to see malaysia winning something and start our journey to world cup...give nationality...house..e'thing...and let them play for malaysia...hahahah...


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