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 Buy a new myvi or refurbish my old myvi, My old myvi is 10years old

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post Dec 21 2019, 12:25 PM

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QUOTE(Archemedia @ Dec 21 2019, 11:51 AM)
Myvi door becomes difficult to close after changing the door rubber. any idea why?

or maybe just the design is flawed? even before change the door rubber, it doesn't close effortlessly compared to newer cars.

Mine is the 2008 myvi.

*Already close to 1 year change
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Ask body shop ppl do some alignment on the hinge.
That side got accident before ?
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post Dec 21 2019, 12:39 PM

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QUOTE(AllnGap @ Dec 21 2019, 12:25 PM)
Ask body shop ppl do some alignment on the hinge.
That side got accident before ?
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No accident...

The rubber seem to be preventing door from shutting unless i put some level of force to close the door

Paint shop can fix this? I feel like it is a petty thing to ask shop to do, because idk what the car feels like when it was brand new. I bought 2ndhand
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post Dec 21 2019, 12:42 PM

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QUOTE(Archemedia @ Dec 21 2019, 12:39 PM)
No accident...

The rubber seem to be preventing door from shutting unless i put some level of force to close the door

Paint shop can fix this? I feel like it is a petty thing to ask shop to do, because idk what the car feels like when it was brand new. I bought 2ndhand
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Either the car door striker plate misalligned or rosak. Just loosen the screw, shut the door few times then kasi ketat again
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QUOTE(ihavenoidea @ Dec 21 2019, 12:42 PM)
Either the car door striker plate misalligned or rosak. Just loosen the screw, shut the door few times then kasi ketat again
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Rubber is obstructing and leaving quite some gap, i dont think the latch reached the striker plate even hmm.gif
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post Dec 21 2019, 01:57 PM

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QUOTE(LarryPizzaGuy @ Dec 21 2019, 12:24 PM)
Do you drive the car often?
Do you travel long distance on a weekly basis?

If yes to both,
I'd recommend getting the new car.

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Here's my arguement,

Although many forummer's here advised you to repair and maintain the car because it is a smart financial decision to you (you save money).

However many did not take into account the following criteria,

1. (Assuming) This Myvi is your Main car.
2. Daily driving comfort and Peace of Mind (stress/comfort related conditions while driving the car everyday)

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To which, a new car will be able to improve your overall day-to-day happiness.

Why?

The new Myvi won't require constant maintenance (breakdowns, part replacement)

- I'm speaking this from experience as I used to own a Proton Aeroback for 9 years; it was my main daily driver; I got fed up constantly maintaining the car; I frequently replace major parts, but smaller issues will always pop up on a weekly basis.
- These small issues hinders my work performance, as it caused me to be late for work/meetings.
- I carpool with my friends/family/colleague frequently on lunch/dinner/outings; and I felt that the car made everyone felt tiresome at the end of each ride.
- The car is uncomfortable and can be quite tiresome for me on long journeys and traffic jams.

However, the Proton Aeroback was my only car back then and I had to make a quick decision to replace it.

And it was a good move for me as I enjoyed driving to and back from work; I won't have to stress/tired from driving home every night after a long/hard day at work; I feel happier, compared to getting into a rattly car that shakes and loose all the way home.

I won't have to worry about going to work/meetings as I know full well that my car will run reliably.

You can say getting a new car is a means of upgrading your overall lifestyle. And I believe it will improve your quality of life tremendously (as it did for me).

Thus, you can consider selling off the Myvi, use the amount sold as downpayment for a newer car; and whatever money you've saved (RM5,000 to RM10,000) is able to sustain your monthly repayment of the car for 1-2 years.


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That's my advice la.
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That's why if wanna do refurbish must do all at one shot, can't do part by part because the parts fail as they reach end life d.

I really don't see the point of buying new myvi to replace old ones. Unless of course upgrade to C segment then get the feel of upgrade
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post Dec 21 2019, 02:08 PM

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Parking.. Coz I'm having the same dilemma
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post Dec 21 2019, 02:20 PM

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QUOTE(AllnGap @ Dec 21 2019, 01:57 PM)
That's why if wanna do refurbish must do all at one shot, can't do part by part because the parts fail as they reach end life d.

I really don't see the point of buying new myvi to replace old ones. Unless of course upgrade to C segment then get the feel of upgrade
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Yeah, you got a point there. Do it all and do it right on 1 go; you'll save on money; but driving a refurbished car won't be as comfortable as driving a new car.

And that's if you have another spare car on hand; I'm assuming TS only has the old Myvi as his daily driver.

A refurbished car can't guarantee that some smaller issues won't pop up in the future.

Other issues such as worn out interior parts, the rattles and squeak would make the driving experience more tiresome on a daily basis.

Lets not forget that newer cars is much safer on the road.

These are the things that a newer car would be better than a refurbished one..

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If you want to save some money, is able to put in the time and effort to repair/refurbish the interior of the car, and don't mind the lack of safety features and overall noise/comfort > Repair the old Myvi.

If not > New Car.
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post Dec 21 2019, 02:26 PM

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If you feel no more power to drive, better to change.
If you spray or make interior or exterior nicer, at the end no power or comfort to drive, you won’t have mood to drive..

I just sold 13years old 1st gen Myvi... have done lot of interior/exterior customisations and only use it for 2 years then sold off. At the end still not happy/satisfied.

I suggest go for new Myvi or 2nd vios or altis or city
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post Dec 21 2019, 03:35 PM

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QUOTE(LarryPizzaGuy @ Dec 21 2019, 02:20 PM)
Yeah, you got a point there. Do it all and do it right on 1 go; you'll save on money; but driving a refurbished car won't be as comfortable as driving a new car.

And that's if you have another spare car on hand; I'm assuming TS only has the old Myvi as his daily driver.

A refurbished car can't guarantee that some smaller issues won't pop up in the future.

Other issues such as worn out interior parts, the rattles and squeak would make the driving experience more tiresome on a daily basis.

Lets not forget that newer cars is much safer on the road.

These are the things that a newer car would be better than a refurbished one..

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If you want to save some money, is able to put in the time and effort to repair/refurbish the interior of the car, and don't mind the lack of safety features and overall noise/comfort > Repair the old Myvi.

If not > New Car.
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if you have changed all expired parts then it may perform well.

like subframe bushings that holds the engine and whole steering construction and wheels together.
my brother's nissan also swing excessively(unstable after bumps or corners + kruk kruk sound) because that bush rubber got busted (common problems with nissan car)

of course refurbish a Aeroback wont bring up the NVH that sort.
so it comes back to the original question.

" Looking for an upgrade or Restore to its former glory "




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like this car above, my brother is driving one, only like 7years old. not much problems.
common problems is subframe bush not long lasting. changed it for 660, the car corners sharply now.
Being a B-segment last time maybe 85k, now used ones about 25k only. it shares plenty of parts with other nissan models so there are plenty of chop up parts.

if buy this just spare extra 7k or so, change tints, spark plugs, absorbers, filters, a lot of things and the car will be good to go for next 6years or so.
even if gearbox kong can be replaced for 1,500.

Buy car is essentially burning cash, either burn cash via depreciation or buy used and learn how to maintain yourself.

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QUOTE(notmyself @ Dec 21 2019, 02:26 PM)
If you feel no more power to drive, better to change.
If you spray or make interior or exterior nicer, at the end no power or comfort to drive, you won’t have mood to drive..

I just sold 13years old 1st gen Myvi... have done lot of interior/exterior customisations and only use it for 2 years then sold off. At the end still not happy/satisfied.

I suggest go for new Myvi or 2nd vios or altis or city
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so you've walked down to this path of "Restore to its former glory "
but, you realized that you're actually " Looking for an upgrade " laugh.gif laugh.gif


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QUOTE(raikaevil @ Dec 20 2019, 11:05 AM)
Lately I been thinking to buy a new car, but my parents advised me to use back the old car to save money. The problem is that old car everything just feel sucks, no power bad suspension, bad design, bad control, bad sound system, and old tint. The current car I'm using is an 10 years old 1st gen myvi. I'm not sure should I invest my money to refurbish the car, *hopefully the can get back to at least 7/10 condition. To fix all those problem I mentioned, I think probably need at least 5 to 10k I guess. So in my opinion, buying a new might just save the hassle no worry about other thing. What do you guys think?

Refurbish the old car or Buy a new car?

Will the old car become nice to drive and use if I refurbish it?
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Bad suspension = change all 4 absorbers together with the absorber link (rm1.2k)
Bad control = change better tires, i recommend hankook v12 evo 2 (rm1k)
Bad sound system = change headunit, change speakers (take kenwood or pioneer brand (rm1k). I redo mine, 1 headunit and 4 speakers all new costs me around rm1k.
Old tint = redo tint. Get good ones (rm1k)
Bad design n bad power = u will get tje same thing with new myvi....

So total u need only 4.5k max.

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QUOTE(dragonspirit @ Dec 20 2019, 11:59 AM)
No need refurbish, just transplant half cut K3vet (>RM5k) in, will be better and much faster than new myvi
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Yup , agree..
Me also having a kancil at 24 year old..
But after convert to turbo engine Automatik Transmission,
The car feel alive ...
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QUOTE(raikaevil @ Dec 20 2019, 11:05 AM)
Lately I been thinking to buy a new car, but my parents advised me to use back the old car to save money. The problem is that old car everything just feel sucks, no power bad suspension, bad design, bad control, bad sound system, and old tint. The current car I'm using is an 10 years old 1st gen myvi. I'm not sure should I invest my money to refurbish the car, *hopefully the can get back to at least 7/10 condition. To fix all those problem I mentioned, I think probably need at least 5 to 10k I guess. So in my opinion, buying a new might just save the hassle no worry about other thing. What do you guys think?

Refurbish the old car or Buy a new car?

Will the old car become nice to drive and use if I refurbish it?
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Dude, from a financial perspective, don't spend too much on cars. It's a depreciating assets that doesn't bring you additional wealth. I would advise to refurbish your old car. After all its your own car. If you still wanna get something different then go for second hand. Get a reliable mechanic to check the car and you're good to go.

Cars depreciate the most the first two years+

With the money you save, you can put into savings or investment man.
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post Dec 23 2019, 10:57 AM

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QUOTE(raikaevil @ Dec 20 2019, 11:05 AM)
Lately I been thinking to buy a new car, but my parents advised me to use back the old car to save money. The problem is that old car everything just feel sucks, no power bad suspension, bad design, bad control, bad sound system, and old tint. The current car I'm using is an 10 years old 1st gen myvi. I'm not sure should I invest my money to refurbish the car, *hopefully the can get back to at least 7/10 condition. To fix all those problem I mentioned, I think probably need at least 5 to 10k I guess. So in my opinion, buying a new might just save the hassle no worry about other thing. What do you guys think?

Refurbish the old car or Buy a new car?

Will the old car become nice to drive and use if I refurbish it?
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I will not trade my old Myvi for anything. Even tho now life is a lot better, I held off my purchase for VW Vento or even the GTI for 3 years now simply because the costs are just not justified. I got my manual 1.5 strictly for its power and did some minor adjustments to make handling safer/better, otherwise its a stock car with premium maintenance if thats what to say. I costs a fraction to maintain like 30% vs. any other car in the 50-90K range. Now its 7 years old and the drivetrain is excellent with matching efficiency when it was new.

Some major replacements will cost a few K as it reaches 10 years - but chances are it will cost much less than the value of buying a new myvi. The only reason to upgrade is for quality of life, so another myvi is simply not justified.

Myvi feels like a tin milo all around (new one also la, just less tin a bit nia - and more things to service kek), but I'd take that 2-5k maintenance savings every year for that while keeping the fun once in a while.

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QUOTE(raikaevil @ Dec 20 2019, 11:05 AM)
Lately I been thinking to buy a new car, but my parents advised me to use back the old car to save money. The problem is that old car everything just feel sucks, no power bad suspension, bad design, bad control, bad sound system, and old tint. The current car I'm using is an 10 years old 1st gen myvi. I'm not sure should I invest my money to refurbish the car, *hopefully the can get back to at least 7/10 condition. To fix all those problem I mentioned, I think probably need at least 5 to 10k I guess. So in my opinion, buying a new might just save the hassle no worry about other thing. What do you guys think?

Refurbish the old car or Buy a new car?

Will the old car become nice to drive and use if I refurbish it?
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If you have been maintaining your car (not bawah pokok maintenance type), then probably nothing much to repair.

Myvi has always been about cheap and reliable (proper maintenance) but you would not get the best feeling and handling from it especially for an old car.
There are things that cannot be fixed such as rattling sound due to worn out dashboard coupling and fitting.
Even with a proper repair - you only get back the reliability for a car but you will not get back the comfort and feeling of a new car.
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try look at pros & cons on both options:

new myvi

pro
look good, feel good
less initial maintenance cost
major part cover under warranty
monies from old myvi can be use for deposit i.e lower starting cost
can opt for better class car..i.e city or vios or saga or any MPV or SUV

cons.
monthly payment
higher insurance premium



old myvi

pro
no monthly commitment i.e more cash in hand to be used for repair and maintenance

cons.
Lump sump cost for repair will need some immediate cash
stuck with old car (hey it's myvi people dont care about it's age so long it can be driven)

The conclusion
it's depend on your financial condition and your own objectives
if only to move from A to B then just stick to old and upgrade when the situation is needed. i.e having a kid and needed a bigger car etc etc..
if u still young save the cash and plan for future..future is not just 5-years ahead with fancy car but beyond that
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first get a good ice. this will distract you from the condition of the car
no need much. just get android + speaker enough

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1st gen myvi problematic one. the aircond is never ending problem. changed compressor twice at RM700, still like shit. after that replace the whole aircond system for RM3k+. better but still not satisfactory in my opinion. not to mentioned NVH is much worst compare to the new myvi. sold that car after fix this fix that and get back only RM7.5k (2019 Sxi model). bought a new full spec myvi, never been so satisfied with it. hassle free, tint is also provided, just drive and go.
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QUOTE(Newsray @ Dec 23 2019, 02:37 PM)
If you have been maintaining your car (not bawah pokok maintenance type), then probably nothing much to repair.

Myvi has always been about cheap and reliable (proper maintenance) but you would not get the best feeling and handling from it especially for an old car.
There are things that cannot be fixed such as rattling sound due to worn out dashboard coupling and fitting.
Even with a proper repair - you only get back the reliability for a car but you will not get back the comfort and feeling of a new car.
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It's possible to achieve new car feeling but need to change lots of stuff and service particular parts.

Of course need to do some research on your own.

On my D segment I noticed how they made no squeaking sound. Every single plastic piece has a piece of thin fabric tape attached to the edges.
No matter how the car flex, the fabric prevents the plastic in contact to rub against each other. (Thus no sound)

Most of our local car uses cheapo plastic clips that becomes brittle after couple of years under our hot sun.
Everything from bumpers, door handles, engine compartment all use tiny plastic clips to hold things together



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QUOTE(Dezs @ Dec 23 2019, 10:57 AM)
I will not trade my old Myvi for anything. Even tho now life is a lot better, I held off my purchase for VW Vento or even the GTI for 3 years now simply because the costs are just not justified. I got my manual 1.5 strictly for its power and did some minor adjustments to make handling safer/better, otherwise its a stock car with premium maintenance if thats what to say. I costs a fraction to maintain like 30% vs. any other car in the 50-90K range. Now its 7 years old and the drivetrain is excellent with matching efficiency when it was new.

Some major replacements will cost a few K as it reaches 10 years - but chances are it will cost much less than the value of buying a new myvi. The only reason to upgrade is for quality of life, so another myvi is simply not justified.

Myvi feels like a tin milo all around (new one also la, just less tin a bit nia - and more things to service kek), but I'd take that 2-5k maintenance savings every year for that while keeping the fun once in a while.
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All perodua is Milo tin. I also own a Milo tin kenari so I know.
From the metal sheets to safety features perodua is the worse type.

All of our small mini cars are actually in the "kei car" category that can't be exported to European countries due to safety concerns.
They are driven at 70kmh max even on Japanese highways and used for town commute only.

Like this myvi 1.5 sure got ppl lenjan until 160kmh LOL.

I know myvi is Malaysia best selling car but in terms of safety it's bad

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