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post Apr 26 2007, 11:40 PM

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QUOTE(wmconan @ Apr 26 2007, 11:30 PM)
Where is Aunty Lenny and AF Shop located? In KL?  smile.gif
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Aunty Lenny's over at Endah Parade. Cant remember if its 2nd or 3rd floor though, but look near the food court, opposite a comic shop
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post Apr 29 2007, 12:56 AM

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QUOTE(wmconan @ Apr 29 2007, 12:14 AM)
Hi, guys. Wan 2 ask u all. How to paint the gold part for MG Strike Freedom Normal Version to MG Strike Freedom FBM. Is it possible to make it? What paint/marker should I use coz I'm not sure bout it. Hope u all can help me. Thanks!  biggrin.gif  thumbup.gif
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is there a difference between the 2? I just had a look at the internal frame of the SF normal and the SF FBM, and both looks to be the same color to me ler...
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post Apr 29 2007, 10:17 PM

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QUOTE(boltguard @ Apr 29 2007, 01:53 PM)
wait =D, u mean make a black coating 1st, then spray it gold? =D does it really work?

if it does, does it apply to silver colour also? and the rest of the colours as well?
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I always use the metallics as a secondary coat. So I tend to base coat using black, before spraying on the silver or gold, although when it comes to gold, I prefer to base coat using brown rather than black.
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post Apr 29 2007, 11:10 PM

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QUOTE(VincC454 @ Apr 29 2007, 10:10 PM)
hmm..its almost the same gold as full burst version..only not as yellow..
its more lighter and less yellowish..

and yes..you just shake and spray straight..not sure if you put into warm water first the can..the spray will be nicer or not..just like you do for topcoat can..

but whatever also..if you spray with whatever gold also..i will look nicer than the gold plastic color of the unpainted gold part of normal SF

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Hmm.. did some testing on one of my old MGs that I now use for experiments. Basically I base coated with brown, did some shading with black, and some highlighting with yellow, then only apply the gold. A rather thin coat of gold that is, mainly just for the metallic look to it. Not too bad, but wanna try again, 'cause the texture of the gold mix isnt that good.

Will post some pics after I've stripped the paint and respray again after that...
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post Apr 30 2007, 12:29 AM

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QUOTE(lonetitans @ Apr 30 2007, 12:21 AM)
er... noob question... gm01 is used to draw the lining for SF right?
i got a bit confused with what was posted before this.. so is draw lining first only spray gold or the other way round? thanks...
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Normally its spray first, then do the lining. Unless your gold coating is extremely thin, so that it wont obscure the lines that you've already drawn. If you're using a spray can, then spray first then do lining, as u cannot control the amount of paint or spracy velocity with that, as compared to a dual action AB.

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post Apr 30 2007, 12:57 AM

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QUOTE(Balthasar @ Apr 30 2007, 12:45 AM)
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Weih...no one can help on recommending wat gold color is the most bling bling wan meh ?

Spray can also can la... sweat.gif
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Well, I would recommend if I could smile.gif But to be honest, I can't really say. The only gold color that I've got with me is a very old bottle of Humbrol acrylic gold, which has got a pretty weak pigment. So I can't really recommend that anyways.

But since I got it, I make use of it anyways lar.. That's where it gets interesting, experimenting at how to get around the problems that u have with various different methods and so on.
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QUOTE(heretic6 @ Apr 30 2007, 07:18 PM)
lighter fluid? o_O just make sure you dont 'weather' your kit instead lol
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well, its not as bad as u think it is actually. I use alcohol to thin down my paints for airbrushing, and alcohol tends to burn hoter than zippo lighter fluid tongue.gif
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post Apr 30 2007, 09:53 PM

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QUOTE(VincC454 @ Apr 30 2007, 09:37 PM)
^ yes..it been AB..

and for the lighter fluid..i use it to mix with my enamel paint..for lining
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say... enamel paints right? how easy is it to manage with an airbrush? not just the brushing bits, but when it comes to cleaning the AB after that?
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post Apr 30 2007, 09:59 PM

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QUOTE(VincC454 @ Apr 30 2007, 09:54 PM)
clivengu

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at that time..its better just to use eraser..and that also better wait till the paint really really settle with the plastic first..

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i dunno wo..i just use enamel for lining only..eaiser than use a marker..
never use it with AB before..most of the time i just use oil base paint with AB
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ah ok.. thought u AB enamels also. most of what i've seen before on the linings bit tends to use enamels for the painting, then acrylics for the lining, as its easier to rub off acrylic off enamel without removing the enamel. First time i've heard of enamels on acrylic though.. does the lighter fluid strip acrylic?
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QUOTE(VincC454 @ Apr 30 2007, 10:05 PM)
feel like those fluid can strip almost every type of paint..like those hardware thinner..

just feel like it la..never try it before also..so i might be wrong
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Hmm.. so far the best theoritical combination for lining is a combination of different types of paint.

Like for example, enamel as the base coat, with acrylic for the lining, where u can use something that can wipe off the acrylic, but leave the enamel intact.

That's why I was asking if those fluids can remove enamel or not...

Hmm.. tried experimenting with water based poster color on acrylic before, as you can wipe off the poster color with just color. Pretty good results, but dont work out too well in the end when I tried to brush (hand brush, as I dun have an AB yet at that time) on the vanish (acrylic) on top of it after that, as the water content will get the lining to start running.

Havent' tried with ABing the varnish on instead yet though, that should be something interesting to try.
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QUOTE(boyarque @ May 3 2007, 04:14 PM)
humbrol paints?.....where do you usually get them?....what are the prices like?

btw, i'm normally around putrajaya, so can i get the paint around here?...thanx in advance...
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humbrol paints damn rare these days ler.. I used to use them a lot when they still had the 30ml bottles for their acrylics, but those stopped production already. now they only produce the miserable 12ml bottles, which i dun find to be as good as the older stuff.
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QUOTE(DevilMan @ May 3 2007, 11:27 PM)
So what top coat should I buy? Semi Glossy?  icon_question.gif
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well, if u're to look at most of the nicely done up gunpla, u'll find that the surface is actually a matt surface, and not at all shiny. So, u should be looking for either a matt or flat top coat.

Furthermore, the bare plastic itself dun look very good as it is, and when u spray on a gloss coat onto that, it'll make it look even worse.

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QUOTE(young_soul @ May 4 2007, 08:21 PM)
I've been looking for Flat top coat all this while with no success...where you guys get them from?
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I've been using the Humbrol Matt Varnish all this time. Pretty good, but need to be sprayed on. When brushed, it'll be slightly gloss. U can still find those at Miniature Hobby over at Section 14.

Mr Hobby from TM (BTS) also has got the Flat topcoat, although I prefer to use the Humbrol ones, as I tend to get the unwanted frosting effect at times.

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post May 5 2007, 11:33 AM

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QUOTE(whoami123 @ May 5 2007, 11:26 AM)
That shop... Buy at your own risk  tongue.gif
(risk of getting rude manners from the boss)
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I dont get it lar. what risk is there anyways? If u know what u're looking for, then go in, pick up the box, pay, walk out with it. Don't even need to say a word, or interact much to get any form of rude manners at all.


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QUOTE(VincC454 @ May 5 2007, 10:32 AM)
there is no real process of applying topcoat..its a spray can..so you need to apply them like you spray a spray paint lo..so meaning no need any kind of tools for applying topcoat
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speaking of topcoats, anybody encountered the frosting effect before when using those spray on types? never really gotten to the bottom of what actually causes it.

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QUOTE(lonetitans @ May 9 2007, 01:13 AM)
want ask.. the nip marks left can be covered by gundam marker if i don't wanna spray right??
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Nip marks? I'm assuming cuts and scratches? If so, then it'll depends a lot on how serious it is. If its just something that can be sanded away, then probably yes, but keep in mind that I've not used those markers b4, so I got no idea how well the paint can flow off them. If its something more serious then puttying (or that magic Mr Surfacer solution) will be needed. Still possible I guess, but it'll be a larger area that needs to be covered up then.
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QUOTE(ZiYi @ May 9 2007, 05:51 PM)
just bought a full burst mode X20A. This is my first touch on MG. One big question, how am I gonna a paint the litte pilot figure which not taller than 2cm?

And there are 3 figures in this box.... swt
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With a size 000 brush of course smile.gif

I don't find those to be a problem, as I'm too used to painting those 25mm figurines from Warhammer 40K and Fantasy. Actually check out the painting guides for those, might help to do those pilots.

http://members.aol.com/drdresch/hints3.htm
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post May 11 2007, 12:01 PM

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QUOTE(VincC454 @ May 11 2007, 10:38 AM)
from uncolor like this..
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..and with heavy painting..it will end up like this..
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hmm.. dont seem too bad actually, just takes time to do, so patience is pretty important. only troublesome bits will be the tiny MS figures there.
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QUOTE(heretic6 @ May 14 2007, 10:28 PM)
i thought acguy was memang larger than other Mobile Suits.
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Well, it dwarfs everything I got with the exception of maybe the GP-02 and the Kampfer. The Nu is as tall as it, but far less bulky
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QUOTE(VincC454 @ May 15 2007, 09:19 PM)
it depends on you wanna use water or oil base paint..for me i prefer oil
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Say.. the oil paints right? Enamel? or different?

How's it like to handle compared to acrylics, for hand brushing and for airbrushing? And for airbrushing, how difficult is it to clean the AB after?
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QUOTE(VincC454 @ May 16 2007, 11:22 AM)
hmm..i never try handbrush with oil before..but sometimes i do color mini figure and also gundam eyes with it..just a liltle thinner will do..most of the time i AB +oil base paint..and its kindda hard to clean your ab gun afterward..and if oil..its better to clean the gun inside out after every use..cause if it dry inside then ur gun is in deep shit already..lol

dunno why..but i dun really like water base..especially tamiya..not really nice when you with ab..lol


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Kinda tempted to try out oil paints. What sorts do u usually use, and how much do they cost?

Well, for one thing, I gotta say that Tamiya is indeed the crappiest of the acrylic paints smile.gif Pity though, I really miss the older Humbrol bottles, which r out of production now. I tend to use Citadel Acrylics from Gamesworkshop these days for acrylics. Pretty good, and the paint's rather thick too. Thin it down with water and alcohol, and the small bottle can last quite a while.

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