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This post has been edited by NUR_VER.3: Apr 14 2020, 11:45 PM

lucifah empire23

sorry i dont know any more mod tags

To be honest with you it looks like he’s trying to win an argument and prove a point rather than invite or solicit you to purchase any sexual services. There’s a large difference between the both.

I mean even the contact numbers are blacked out so it seems pretty darn obvious to me.

Blacking out contact numbers is one thing,

but advertising a service is another, he obviously saying he can help users that seek these means of illicit activities and he CAN provide the contacts if users PM him.

Such “run about” way of advertising things.

C’mon how about if it were changed into drug or guns? Dont tell me lowyat forum will still allow people posting screen shots of drug dealing groups in this forum?

I know it is just to prove a point, but doesnt hide the fact that a user is promoting such activity in public, which is illegal in this country.

Hope we can stop this “round about” way of promoting these illegal services regardless of whether it is direct or not, mind you this forum is not age restricted, there will be minors or teenagers trying to seek these things just for the thrills.

Hope you understand these concerns, I am trying to avoid Lowyat being targeted by the authorities due to this troll being stupid and posted his little sex whatsapp group just to win an argument.

This post has been edited by NUR_VER.3: Dec 14 2019, 05:05 PM

That in my opinion seems like too long of a bow to draw in regards inferring intent. Usually a judge would go by a few “tests”

1. Reasonableness / Reasonable belief

Would a reasonable person infer from what you have posted as evidence as a genuine attempt at selling a service? It seems obviously not in this case because I didn’t get a deluge of reports, only yours.

2. Context

The context for the post matches the thread where the argument was started. Thus even if it can be argued as inappropriate within the context of discussion within the thread it was.

3. Conduct / Habit

While the reply your quote was talks about prostitution, it doesn’t seem that implicit nature of the posts has carried over similarly in other threads. In all honesty he spends more time posting shit about Adeline84 and harassing people for the lulz more than this cheong stuff.

Talking about something doesn’t mean you’re selling it. Best I can figure is that he’s promoting an unhealthy lifestyle which isn’t illegal to my knowledge.

It’s like me posting a picture of a few guns in a thread talking about illegal guns. You could say I promote having a firearm, but promotion of a view is very different to solicitation.

He even offered me directly to join this group, isnt that "intentional" enough?

cmon..

oh well I tried

It was kinda obvious he was just goading you to get a response ler

Ok thanks for your reply, Im gonna ask for another opinion from related regulating body regarding this matter, should be the mcmc I guess.

will keep you posted if his post breached the country internet censorship policy.

The police should be the last resort, but I dont see this matter gonna escalate to that level.

I can see TS’s reasons, do we need to wait till this get out of hands?

Heck, those that want to join those kind of groups now know who they can PM already

IMHO

better just delete his post and ban the username, of course right now its only me who voice out, but later in the future Im afraid if theres another user who see his post and go straight to police, then shits already hit the fan.

He is not old timer user, just recently registered also, could be someones dupe, I dont see any harm banning this user actually.

This post has been edited by NUR_VER.3: Dec 14 2019, 07:24 PM

MCMC has been reported, I will keep you guys posted if theres any breach of internet censor under MCMC guidelines.

Thanks

thats what happens when TS purposely take things out of context.
im glad you are able to see the context of the whole argument from when it started to when i made the post TS is complaining about.

and just to add, its a group that people add you in.. i cant even add people in even if i wanted to since im not the admin of such groups. and last i check, i dont break any laws being an observer in such groups. I'm not the admin of such groups and im not a service provider promoting any services in such group as well..

since the context of our argument was talking about whether "nons make up 90% of cheong customers" so my whole "bring you in" was meant to be construed as to show him and prove it to him that in such groups one can easily see that it is not the case and in fact his "90%" is actually malays the one taking part in such activities..

in my defence, i took a drastic measure (inserting the screenshot) in that argument because i know this poster is known to be racial on issues that relate to such RnR stuff. So in all honesty i just wanted to shut him up for good.

anyway i believe it is fairly obvious that nowhere did i say or even mention whether directly or indirectly that i can/am providing him or inviting him to get any such services.. so dont know how he can construe it that way..

but alas, if he chose to interpret it that way i cant stop him right, since his comprehension is limited.

and like i said in that very same thread, if i did break any forum rules by talking about those stuffs, the moderation team can take the necessary action as they deem fit..
and as proven, i dont go around talking about prostitution services or even anything close to inviting people to prostitution services.

Thank you “observer”

Hope MCMC will contact you for further investigation.

Glad you can serve as “model citizen” just like you claim here.

This post has been edited by NUR_VER.3: Dec 16 2019, 01:16 AM

Well, that's my opinion and I'm sticking with it. To me it's prima facie and the context is clearly rhetorical and meant as an argument.

You may ask the other mods and the admin for their view but to me it's pretty clear cut.


Many many years ago, when I was a wee man I used to drive lori taking goods from suppliers in both Pudu and Chow Kit in the dead hours of the morning, seriously, people pretty much did this stuff openly and the last time I went back it hasn't changed.

I'm sure the cops have better things to look at IRL.

These activities will always have demand, and of course it is hard to completely stop them. And yet the vice police still doing their jobs based on reports, if there are no reports (and actions) how are we supposed to stop these activities from spreading and becoming much worse

This post has been edited by maxpudding: Dec 16 2019, 09:29 AM

You were being emotional

You could always ignore him, but nope, you chose to show that you have access to these kind of activities, which Im sure the vice unit will want to talk to you about it

Good luck if they do contact you

Even though maresia is beside Singapore, but maresians kiasuness is as even as Singaporean

wahlau damn kiasu tak habih2 with MCMC report even before this