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post Dec 11 2019, 09:37 AM, updated 7y ago

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not sure the claim legit or not

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post Dec 11 2019, 09:38 AM

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meh

donate with autodebit?

no thanks

their CEO go use mercili while we stuck using our axia e
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post Dec 11 2019, 09:39 AM

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abuden.. who pays for the employees?
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post Dec 11 2019, 09:39 AM

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I know this long time already
All those donations received managed by same group of companies
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post Dec 11 2019, 09:40 AM

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QUOTE(Baconateer @ Dec 11 2019, 09:39 AM)
abuden.. who pays for the employees?
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50% commision oh... just need to tebal muka and tahan panas... laugh.gif
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post Dec 11 2019, 09:40 AM

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they are SUPER RICH.

do not donate.

register as charity foundation to avoid taxes.
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post Dec 11 2019, 09:42 AM

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good la for izzudin baru tau. usually only like 5-10 % goes to the charity.. the rest is for "operational / overhead cost"
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post Dec 11 2019, 09:42 AM

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Must be fake donation scammer. Genuine donation NGO wouldn't split the donation like that.
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post Dec 11 2019, 09:42 AM

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lol only bodo go and donate

their salesppl so gung ho want you to donate, you think they work for free meh

in the end only 10% of the total amount gets to the ppl who need the money, the rest 90% semua "administrative fees" habis kelong semua
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post Dec 11 2019, 09:44 AM

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only sohai donate to anything relate to UN especially Unicef and WWF.
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post Dec 11 2019, 09:45 AM

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I'd rather buy a Rolex and let them sponsors motorsports even.

How many events IRL you see unicef is participating ?
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post Dec 11 2019, 09:46 AM

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Dah lama la this scam thing. First they asked you to sign on paper then asked for debit or credit card number for donation.
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post Dec 11 2019, 09:49 AM

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Didn't donate. Those wearing vest one are more pushy than credit card salesperson.
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post Dec 11 2019, 09:51 AM

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QUOTE(la bella @ Dec 11 2019, 09:49 AM)
Didn't donate. Those wearing vest one are more pushy than credit card salesperson.
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ikr... some really obnoxious and aggresive.
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post Dec 11 2019, 09:53 AM

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nope, better to donate to those yg betul2 buat kerja like kechara soup kitchen
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post Dec 11 2019, 09:53 AM

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people needs to be realistic and question everything

u have to ask yourself, how do u make a living out of donation?
your income came part of the donation isn't it?
else where did your salary come from laugh.gif
you're not bijan
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post Dec 11 2019, 09:55 AM

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Sorrylah, when it comes to donation mat salleh are the worst.
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post Dec 11 2019, 10:00 AM

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Don't understand the statement... If can get RM500 donation crew will get RM250 and Co. get the other half.. So unicef get what?
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post Dec 11 2019, 10:07 AM

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this scammers always camp outside of banks pestering people.

annoying as fark rclxub.gif
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post Dec 11 2019, 10:09 AM

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https://www.unicef.org/media/media_40305.html
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post Dec 11 2019, 10:10 AM

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Never donate to anything.....you can't save anything with 1 time charity
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post Dec 11 2019, 10:14 AM

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Only a moron will donate to these people.
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post Dec 11 2019, 10:15 AM

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I never donate.
Only a small percentage of that goes to actual people in need.
And this isn’t new, I’ve heard of this 15 years ago.

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post Dec 11 2019, 10:17 AM

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Religious association like Tzu Chi also practice the same shit. All ask for donation and volunteer works, while the upper bosses in the group were all rich af.
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post Dec 11 2019, 10:18 AM

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Seriously how much u want to donate......wwf, makna, UNICEF....etc.
All ask for monthly c.card deduction, if u can afford donate lor......me?.....sorry, I ask them go ask jibby n Rosy for donation instead.
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post Dec 11 2019, 10:31 AM

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QUOTE(incubus_skj @ Dec 11 2019, 10:42 AM)
lol only bodo go and donate

their salesppl so gung ho want you to donate, you think they work for free meh

in the end only 10% of the total amount gets to the ppl who need the money, the rest 90% semua "administrative fees" habis kelong semua
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post Dec 11 2019, 10:32 AM

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i rather donate to tabung harapan at least I can see they develop flying car
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post Dec 11 2019, 10:46 AM

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How to terminate auto deduct on cc? Need call bank?
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post Dec 11 2019, 10:46 AM

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QUOTE(kurangak @ Dec 11 2019, 09:37 AM)


not sure the claim legit or not
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lelz. well, I approached by unicef multiple times and various locations, just tell them you are a university student, they instantly just change topic and ask you to just like their facebook page laugh.gif
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post Dec 11 2019, 10:53 AM

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That is why I always take different routes when I see people like this on the alleyways.
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i donut to 1mdb not enough?
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post Dec 11 2019, 11:00 AM

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bukan conman lah. UNICEF itself is a real charity, but to drive donations, they need sales people to push for it.

Sales people work based on commissions, if you do not pay them (or pay them well), you won't get the good ones.
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post Dec 11 2019, 11:02 AM

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QUOTE(iSean @ Dec 11 2019, 10:46 AM)
lelz. well, I approached by unicef multiple times and various locations, just tell them you are a university student, they instantly just change topic and ask you to just like their facebook page laugh.gif
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They prefer people with money, they are asking for donation afterall. They will never fail to accost me due to how I look, with bluetooth headset and holding my laptop at all times

Never liked them, I just do not believe in UNICEF. I donate to other bodies
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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Dec 11 2019, 11:00 AM)
bukan conman lah. UNICEF itself is a real charity, but to drive donations, they need sales people to push for it.

Sales people work based on commissions, if you do not pay them (or pay them well), you won't get the good ones.
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but...50% commision yo... laugh.gif
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post Dec 11 2019, 11:05 AM

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QUOTE(kurangak @ Dec 11 2019, 11:02 AM)
but...50% commision yo... laugh.gif
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To be honest, I would dispute the 50% commission. Insurance agents get about 120% of your annual first-year installment (RM200/m x 12 months = RM2,400), but spread across six (6) years.

50% commission is too... inefficient and would be scandalous if it is shared in the open. I may be wrong, and perhaps it may be 50% for the first 12 months, and nothing after that - those who start the initial donation may continue donating after the first 12 months, of which UNICEF don't need to continue paying the commissions

WHo knows?
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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Dec 11 2019, 11:05 AM)
To be honest, I would dispute the 50% commission. Insurance agents get about 120% of your annual first-year installment (RM200/m x 12 months = RM2,400), but spread across six (6) years.

50% commission is too... inefficient and would be scandalous if it is shared in the open. I may be wrong, and perhaps it may be 50% for the first 12 months, and nothing after that - those who start the initial donation may continue donating after the first 12 months, of which UNICEF don't need to continue paying the commissions

WHo knows?
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isn't it 3 years?
that's what i heard when the manager told me to sell some investment plan instead of insurance

and there are so many bodies to donate to locally
if still afraid, just buy tons of food equivalent to the money and donate
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post Dec 11 2019, 01:36 PM

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The AGENT say... all the fund will channel to so and so..

They say ALL THE FAGGING FUND!!!

But they never say 50% !!!
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post Dec 11 2019, 01:42 PM

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Messi Jersey got word unicef

So legit
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QUOTE(kurangak @ Dec 11 2019, 09:37 AM)


not sure the claim legit or not
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I aldy tolf u guys u guys dont believe
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post Dec 11 2019, 02:23 PM

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Dec 11 2019, 01:33 PM)
isn't it 3 years?
that's what i heard when the manager told me to sell some investment plan instead of insurance

and there are so many bodies to donate to locally
if still afraid, just buy tons of food equivalent to the money and donate
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hahaha. it used to be 1 year, then as you said, 3 years, now it is 6 years

And now they have this thing called BSC, basically they take off about 25% of our commitssion, then give it out based on KPI like ::

1. minimum 4 cases a quarter
2. no substantiated complaints from clients
3. special COD hours completion
4. some questionaires

THings ar egetting harder, they are weeding out shitty agents, so in the end only the good ones would prevail
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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Dec 11 2019, 02:23 PM)
hahaha. it used to be 1 year, then as you said, 3 years, now it is 6 years

And now they have this thing called BSC, basically they take off about 25% of our commitssion, then give it out based on KPI like ::

1. minimum 4 cases a quarter
2. no substantiated complaints from clients
3. special COD hours completion
4. some questionaires

THings ar egetting harder, they are weeding out shitty agents, so in the end only the good ones would prevail
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no wonder so many wanna be agents nowadays
can take 6 years

but it's a total scam for some
they want the agent to push investment and savings...instead of medical card, medical insurance or life insurance
i say no straight to his face since he wants me to sell investment plan
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Dec 11 2019, 03:04 PM)
no wonder so many wanna be agents nowadays
can take 6 years

but it's a total scam for some
they want the agent to push investment and savings...instead of medical card, medical insurance or life insurance
i say no straight to his face since he wants me to sell investment plan
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but I think you misunderstand.

This is before my time, but it used to be that we get 100% of the 1-year premium paid, payable in 3 years. Now we get 125% of the 1-year premium payable in 6 years.

So now we have to service the clients for longer than 3 years, and there are possibilities that the clients will not continue with the plan for the 6 years, which means our commission would be cut short too

Nothing much we can do about any of this, we dont decide them

And you are right. DOn't buy insurance products if you want to make investments. They are just a combination of investment and insurances, with the insurance portion having a cost attached to it. If you are properly insured, you are just wasting your money by being over-insured.

#YOLO
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post Dec 11 2019, 03:22 PM

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Ask Jho Low to donate. I'm not rich enough.
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post Dec 11 2019, 04:31 PM

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same with those pipu collect tabung for masjid or tahfiz wat.

few % goto their pocket.
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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Dec 11 2019, 03:10 PM)

And you are right. DOn't buy insurance products if you want to make investments. They are just a combination of investment and insurances, with the insurance portion having a cost attached to it. If you are properly insured, you are just wasting your money by being over-insured.

#YOLO
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that's why i don't even start selling
because for my agency, they don't allow us to sell "insurance" at all
all they let us newbie sell is investment/savings plan only
and keep brainwash us how good it is....no customer base?...start with your parents/relative
i'm not falling for it

those insurance ones are only for higher level ones
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QUOTE(kurangak @ Dec 11 2019, 09:37 AM)


not sure the claim legit or not
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Yes it is

That's why those pay monthly by credit card kesian lol
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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Dec 11 2019, 03:10 PM)
but I think you misunderstand.

This is before my time, but it used to be that we get 100% of the 1-year premium paid, payable in 3 years. Now we get 125% of the 1-year premium payable in 6 years.

So now we have to service the clients for longer than 3 years, and there are possibilities that the clients will not continue with the plan for the 6 years, which means our commission would be cut short too

Nothing much we can do about any of this, we dont decide them

And you are right. DOn't buy insurance products if you want to make investments. They are just a combination of investment and insurances, with the insurance portion having a cost attached to it. If you are properly insured, you are just wasting your money by being over-insured.

#YOLO
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What do u mean by service the client longer? Issit after 3 years u will block his numbers?
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post Dec 11 2019, 07:59 PM

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QUOTE(bugijun @ Dec 11 2019, 07:54 PM)
What do u mean by service the client longer? Issit after 3 years u will block his numbers?
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No one said that. BNM chaged the rules so agents have to service the clients for longer periods of time. Take that however you will
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QUOTE(ex24dec02 @ Dec 11 2019, 10:46 AM)
How to terminate auto deduct on cc? Need call bank?
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need to email unicef to stop the payment. then they will tell bank to stop the auto deduction.

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QUOTE(ApocalypseSoon @ Dec 11 2019, 10:14 AM)
Only a moron will donate to these people.
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im one of those moron who did that.

the idea of donating to help the children is not moronic. but having halved the payment just to pay these sales agent is (and outright taking advantage to those who really need the money), so upon finding out about this, i quickly stop the payment.

but then again, those payment i made, i claim it back during my tax filing. brows.gif
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how about budimas, issit same scam or real charity?
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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Dec 11 2019, 03:10 PM)
but I think you misunderstand.

This is before my time, but it used to be that we get 100% of the 1-year premium paid, payable in 3 years. Now we get 125% of the 1-year premium payable in 6 years.

So now we have to service the clients for longer than 3 years, and there are possibilities that the clients will not continue with the plan for the 6 years, which means our commission would be cut short too

Nothing much we can do about any of this, we dont decide them

And you are right. DOn't buy insurance products if you want to make investments. They are just a combination of investment and insurances, with the insurance portion having a cost attached to it. If you are properly insured, you are just wasting your money by being over-insured.

#YOLO
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But now all the insurance and medical cards comes with investment link. Can find without investment? They said because BNM said have to be able to sustain for more than 40 years or something. So investment then only can.
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QUOTE(Twenty-Fifth Baam @ Dec 11 2019, 09:59 PM)
But now all the insurance and medical cards comes with investment link. Can find without investment? They said because BNM said have to be able to sustain for more than 40 years or something. So investment then only can.
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1. My knowledge on this is admittedly limited, there are too many products so most agents would focus on only a few while knowing others based on cursory. As such, I am not too familiar of any availability of stand-alone medical cards, most cards are admittedly riders of a "mother-policy", which means you can only get those cards if you also subscribe to the mother policy, and all terms and conditions are also tied to the mother policy

2. It is not that "investment only can" per se, but investment product provide longevity in the policy. Premium paid for investment-linked-policies (ILP) are inclusive of the investment portion and the cost-of-insurance (COI) portion. this means you are expecting that the cost-of-insurance will go up, so you pay extra today so in the future you the COI increment would have been factored in your premiums today.

in the example below, the COI starts at RM80/m but the client is paying RM200 a month. If we ignore company cut and agent commission, RM120/m is paid into his investment account which will be further invested. In 20 years time, when the COI has increased that it is higher than the monthly premium, the difference will be taken from the investment account. This is why ILP can last longer, to some extent, as long as the agent is not a lying little weasel

3. Agents and companies sometimes never explain that the ILP is not an investment product, it is an investment product that invests your upfront payment (the investment portion) in unit trust accounts. During quotation, some companies put 9 or even 10% as the yearly return for these investments, making their monthly premium cheaper. This is obviously not sustainable.

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QUOTE(kord @ Dec 11 2019, 08:29 PM)
im one of those moron who did that.

the idea of donating to help the children is not moronic. but having halved the payment just to pay these sales agent is (and outright taking advantage to those who really need the money), so upon finding out about this, i quickly stop the payment.

but then again, those payment i made, i claim it back during my tax filing.  brows.gif
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Err that's not how income tax works. U get tax deduction only bukannya u donate 100 u get back 100 pun
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We talk about unicef donation drive (used to be one of them)
What about those direct debit through their website (my family do that, direct via website)

😅
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QUOTE(kkk8787 @ Dec 11 2019, 10:13 PM)
Err that's not how income tax works. U get tax deduction only bukannya u donate 100 u get back 100 pun
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really ah? sweat.gif but then again, i never count pun how much i got during tax refund..janji duit masuk.. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(kord @ Dec 12 2019, 11:13 AM)
really ah?  sweat.gif  but then again, i never count pun how much i got during tax refund..janji duit masuk..  laugh.gif
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Same as your other tax rebates la. Takkan buy 100 they give u 100 lol
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QUOTE(kkk8787 @ Dec 12 2019, 01:08 PM)
Same as your other tax rebates la. Takkan buy 100 they give u 100 lol
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Dear Sifu,

How to print UNICEF tax receipt online? Any way to do so? Kindly advice. Urgent as kena audit by LHDN and 2017 receipt hilang.

 

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