Got the Viewty last nite from BB Plaza, 1999 plus the so-called free Canon printer. I also have the N82. I also had the K850i for exactly one night, but that's another story.

Comparison wise, as a camera the N82 beats the Viewty any which way you look. In low light situations, nothing beats the Xenon flash. Night mode which is highly usable on the N82, is not as good on the Viewty.

In favor of the Viewty, the UI is easy to use and the screen is very nice, large and bright. Sound clarity as a phone is top notch.

For some reason, using Celcom is frustrating with this phone. Maxis works, though and I presume Digi should work too. My postpaid Celcom on Unlimited Data package would constantly say Connection Unavailable, while on Maxis I could get HSDPA no problem in my area.

However, like the K850i it is not my cup of tea, so anybody looking for a cheap day-old Viewty can email me at pedang_AT_gmail_dot_com.


EDIT: The price was 1999, not 1099, very sorry for the typo.

This post has been edited by tony_chew: Dec 26 2007, 06:18 PM

Ooops...1999... solly! But the offer still stands, anybody looking to get the Viewty can email me as above. One guy did already but he must've been confused when he saw my mistake. I can't blame him, who wouldn't be? Anyway, the Viewty is practically unused as I only used it to take a few photos. I find the touchscreen not very easy to get used to for old man like me, it's more suitable for younger person.

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Added on December 26, 2007, 6:16 pmVery strange for you, as the qwerty keypad is available on my Viewty without any hacks or anything.

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Added on December 26, 2007, 6:21 pmAmended my typo, 1999 lah, not 1099. If can get this cheap, I must be LG President bro-in-law or sumting. haha

This post has been edited by tony_chew: Dec 26 2007, 06:21 PM

I speak for myself only, and for me I ran away from WM devices to Symbian because of the touchscreen, and after using the Viewty, made me remember what made me dislike WM so much. haha

I have no problem keeping this phone actually. I remember how I felt the same way initially about my Nokia E61i.

I had wanted to sell it off a few hours after I bought it, and yet now, it is the one device I rely on even after buying other phones since then (N95, N91, E90, 6120C, N95 8GB, N82, SE K850i and now Viewty). I guess the E61i is just nice for me because it has the keyboard, although I know it is not stylish enough for a lot of you young people. haha

So if you want to get this Viewty, make sure you can live with the touchscreen input before spending all your money.

Yes I noticed that about the ISO100 setting. In most cameras, this shouldn't happen so I'm guessing it's a software/firmware issue.

Affirmative about the time resetting, as well. I think this is also firmware issue.

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Added on December 27, 2007, 3:28 pmI bought a magnetic leather slip-in case for my Viewty. Very cool. But everytime I put the phone in and take it out, the screen goes on. Plus, if you read the manual (don't remember the page) which states to keep magnets away from the back of the phone.

Needless to say, I am using a sock-type cover for the Viewty now. haha

As for the Viewty, I have to say it is growing on me. The touchscreen is not too bad, and as seaedge said, as long as you refrain from sms-ing whilst driving it's easy to use. And I am beginning to get the hang of the camera too and I have to say, it is giving my N82 a run for its money (IMO, the N82 is THE ultimate camera phone because of its Xenon flash).

Just have to remember not to expect miracles in low light indoors situations (TRICK: use flash, get close to your subject), and in good light, pictures can come out quite excellent. I don't think I'm selling my Viewty anytime soon.

This post has been edited by tony_chew: Dec 27 2007, 03:38 PM

No lah, sorry no have speedtest. But I can get H most of the time (HSDPA on the Viewty), when on Maxis. Enough for me, la.

Surfing speed has too many variables, anyway, so speedtests are pretty useless, for my money. Variables include, but not limited to, # of persons in the same area surfing at the same time, weather conditions (don't laugh, it's true), your device processor speed, the website you're surfing to (i.e. use Javascript, amount of pictures & graphics, etc), # of running programs in background, and d@mn worst of all, because you have no say in it, network problem.

So speedtests for me don't really tell much and practically useless. Sorry.

This post has been edited by tony_chew: Dec 27 2007, 05:57 PM

This is the sock-type leather case I use for my Viewty. Best of all, it can also fit my N95 8GB (a bit tight), and my N82 as well. It measures 5in x 2.8in wide. It's a For Nokia case, btw.



It looks fat because the N95 is in there when I took the picture. haha

This post has been edited by tony_chew: Dec 27 2007, 06:07 PM

No stability issues but I have sent mine back to check the camera. I get hot spots and chroma noise in the dark areas when I take indoor pics. Do any of you have the same problems with your camera? Try this: take an indoor picture with or without flash on Auto ISO, at night, of a scene with dark background, maybe your cupboard or dark wall. When I do this, I get white spots (hot spot) and red spots (chroma noise).

If need more than 300 saved sms, get a MPC or other smartphone. The Viewty is a dumbphone after all, although for a dumbphone, it's actually quite smart too.

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Added on January 1, 2008, 9:55 pmIf you have very specific needs about how much sms you need to always have with you, get the S60 smartphone. The Viewty is quite smart, although not a smartphone, and you should look into it only if your interest is mostly having a good camera with you all the time, as well as a phone. If you want a total all in one, even better smartphone, great camera night and day, then your budget got to rise up a bit. I won't say what that phone is, though, as some people say it doesn't exist. haha

This post has been edited by tony_chew: Jan 1 2008, 09:55 PM

I think someone mentioned they managed to use the one for the iPhone, but I use this instead.




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I have version 10c of the Viewty firmware, and I can store up to 5 numbers for each Contact in any combination, plus separate fields for email, home address, office address and web address. For e.g. I have one contact with 3 handphone numbers, 1 office number and 1 fax number, and I was able to assign that no problem. Probably some of you have more than 500 separate individual contacts, but I don't although I do have contacts with more than one handphone number, so this phone's limitations works for me.

This post has been edited by tony_chew: Jan 2 2008, 04:36 PM

The Zitron service center installed it when I sent my phone in for them to check the camera.

What isn't impressing you? The phone? Camera? PIM functions? MP3 playback? Everything? Need your specific complaint maybe we can compile a list and send it in to LG as ideas for a new firmware. Although I do also hear that LG are not very responsive when it comes to after sales support, but too late for us owners now I guess, and we have to sink or swim with them, at least until we sell off our phones.

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Added on January 3, 2008, 1:37 pmActually I can't really see much of a difference between this one and the B-Version I had previously. Talking specifically about picture noise issues in indoor and low light situations.

This post has been edited by tony_chew: Jan 3 2008, 01:37 PM

The burr-ing vibrate on the onscreen keypad and qwerty of the Viewty really rock for me. I guess juine not used to touchscreen phones? Because as I remember it, MPC touchscreen keypads are worse.

Normally seller of barang should also use the barang he sell, rite or not? haha

The only camera phone that can take excellent indoor/night pictures, as at this moment, is the Nokia N82. I posted these a while back on another forum, and can take a look. http://www.pbase.com/tony_chew/chiangmai_2007__n82

N.B.: Comments about poor camera skills will be ignored. haha

This post has been edited by tony_chew: Jan 7 2008, 07:14 PM

Thanks for the heads-up. I agree with you the Thailand-made I-Mobile 902 with the 5MP Sony CCD sensor can beat most cameraphones in terms of picture quality. I did not mean to beat up on your 902 because I did mention that IMO the N82 is the best camera phone out in the market for night and indoor pics, that is out today. If we had to compare all camera phones, there is no doubt there were better ones before.

But from what I read about that phone on the web, going back to 2006 since amazingly that was when this phone came out, it was slow and used to hang horribly, not unlike the LG KU920 which was also a big failure for the same reasons. Example here, http://forum2.mobile-review.com/showthread...?t=47489&page=2

However, beating out even these two for picture quality let's not forget the Sharp 903SH. However I had to let mine go after just a few weeks because sadly it was just impossible to use as a phone for anything other than to make and receive calls.

I found some fairly recent picture comparisons, the first between the 902 and the N95, made sometime last year. I agree with that tester who said that the 902 edged the N95 slightly, although I can't really say it was that much better than even my lousy efforts with the N82. I may be biased. The tests are here http://justamp.blogspot.com/2007/08/nokia-...902-part-2.html

The other comparison was between the 902 and the 903SH which can be found here http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?threadid=1113017

As a matter of interest, you can buy one of these 902 here http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1271945 That poor guy has been trying to sell his off since November. Help him out, people?

This post has been edited by tony_chew: Jan 8 2008, 02:51 PM

Can you please be more clear what LG phone you are referring to?

Go look at mypd@cafe buy and sell got one guy want to sell his printer.