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TSneo_6053
post Dec 4 2019, 10:31 PM, updated 4d ago

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My budget around 70k , i try to check on carlist and only focus on those private seller since dont know which 2nd dealer that is trustable.

I found below choices. I need sifu advice on which to take.
Purpose
- Replace my super old proton
- Family car, 2 adults, 2 kids
- Mostly city, sometimes highway

Options :
mazda 6 - 2015 - RM70000 - 2.0
X-trail - 2015 - RM69800 - 2.5
sonata - 2015/2016/2017 - RM66880 - 2.0
cx-5 - 2015 - RM68800 - 2.5
santa-fe - 2015 - RM69800 - 2.4

i really like mazda car and their looks.
I got a bezza, so i need something at least bigger than bezza when going back hometown so can carry more things in case... if actually smaller, then no point.. coz i'm not really a car person that looking for sport driving feel

This post has been edited by neo_6053: Dec 4 2019, 10:40 PM
sonic31s
post Dec 4 2019, 10:34 PM

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X-trail
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cx-5

but road tax and maintain will be costly, if u're not financial worry not an issue then...
TSneo_6053
post Dec 4 2019, 10:36 PM

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QUOTE(sonic31s @ Dec 4 2019, 10:34 PM)
X-trail
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cx-5

but road tax and maintain will be costly, if u're not financial worry not an issue then...
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how much more expensive compare to 2.0 sedan?
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post Dec 4 2019, 10:39 PM

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QUOTE(neo_6053 @ Dec 4 2019, 10:36 PM)
how much more expensive compare to 2.0 sedan?
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For a 2400cc car - the road rax is about RM800 whistling.gif
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post Dec 4 2019, 10:46 PM

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QUOTE(neo_6053 @ Dec 4 2019, 10:31 PM)
My budget around 70k , i try to check on carlist and only focus on those private seller since dont know which 2nd dealer that is trustable.

I found below choices. I need sifu advice on which to take.
Purpose
- Replace my super old proton
- Family car, 2 adults, 2 kids
- Mostly city, sometimes highway

Options :
mazda 6 - 2015 - RM70000 - 2.0
X-trail - 2015 - RM69800 - 2.5
sonata - 2015/2016/2017 - RM66880 - 2.0
cx-5 - 2015 - RM68800 - 2.5
santa-fe - 2015 - RM69800 - 2.4

i really like mazda car and their looks.
I got a bezza, so i need something at least bigger than bezza when going back hometown so can carry more things in case... if actually smaller, then no point.. coz i'm not really a car person that looking for sport driving feel
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Xtrail - good luck with the CVT problem

Why not shop around for CX5 2.0 GLS?

TSneo_6053
post Dec 4 2019, 11:06 PM

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QUOTE(Pugbunny @ Dec 4 2019, 10:46 PM)
Xtrail - good luck with the CVT problem

Why not shop around for CX5 2.0 GLS?
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oh is it?
but paultan say buy for the gearbox.. LOL .. is it different generation?
https://youtu.be/GVA5ZWfsv6s?t=301
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post Dec 4 2019, 11:06 PM

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post Dec 4 2019, 11:11 PM

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QUOTE(neo_6053 @ Dec 4 2019, 11:06 PM)
oh is it?
but paultan say buy for the gearbox.. LOL .. is it different generation?
https://youtu.be/GVA5ZWfsv6s?t=301
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Pauline - no comment

Read this :

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4622064/all

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4462315/all
TSneo_6053
post Dec 4 2019, 11:18 PM

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QUOTE(Pugbunny @ Dec 4 2019, 11:11 PM)
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post Dec 5 2019, 08:07 AM

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Drove a 2014 M6 2.0 for 6 years, drop me a PM if you have any questions smile.gif
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post Dec 5 2019, 12:15 PM

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Mazda 6.bigger boot
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post Dec 5 2019, 03:03 PM

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QUOTE(khaiandrew @ Dec 5 2019, 08:07 AM)
Drove a 2014 M6 2.0 for 6 years, drop me a PM if you have any questions smile.gif
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how's the driving experience, the maintenance needed (except normal oil change) and price?
any issue so far?

the thread here for m6 is not that active.
TSneo_6053
post Dec 5 2019, 04:55 PM

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m6 would be out of my budget.
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post Dec 5 2019, 04:56 PM

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QUOTE(EdEd @ Dec 5 2019, 12:15 PM)
Mazda 6.bigger boot
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i love that mazda 6 look...
but not sure about practicality
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post Dec 6 2019, 08:26 AM

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QUOTE(cempedaklife @ Dec 5 2019, 03:03 PM)
how's the driving experience, the maintenance needed (except normal oil change) and price?
any issue so far?

the thread here for m6 is not that active.
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Driving experience is amazing, feels much better than the Camry and Accord. Only common problem is the front bushing making a noise when its wet and you're going over a hump. Eventually you just learn to tune it out since it's quite rare. No other issues, maintenance is pretty decent, serviced mine at Bermaz for the free 3 years and then sent to an outside mechanic until now. Would defo recommend the 2.0, mainly due to the road tax. Doesn't feel underpowered.
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post Dec 6 2019, 08:33 AM

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QUOTE(khaiandrew @ Dec 6 2019, 08:26 AM)
Driving experience is amazing, feels much better than the Camry and Accord. Only common problem is the front bushing making a noise when its wet and you're going over a hump. Eventually you just learn to tune it out since it's quite rare. No other issues, maintenance is pretty decent, serviced mine at Bermaz for the free 3 years and then sent to an outside mechanic until now. Would defo recommend the 2.0, mainly due to the road tax. Doesn't feel underpowered.
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How much is the outside workshop maintenance cost? For minor and major service.A bit curious!
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post Dec 6 2019, 11:38 AM

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QUOTE(neo_6053 @ Dec 5 2019, 04:56 PM)
but not sure about practicality
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Why is this an issue of practicality since you put it under your shortlist?

Same sedan car like camry.

QUOTE(Aloha31TEC @ Dec 6 2019, 08:33 AM)
How much is the outside workshop maintenance cost? For minor and major service.A bit curious!
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oil change/brake fluid change/brake pad change/radiator flush/etc, those normal stuff, price similar like camry lar....those work shop say cost more expensive for this kind of normal maintenance job, you can just walk off. Mazda is really just normal car la....not like supercar which need to dismantle this and that just to do some simple maintenance. You go look at the engine bay, so much space to work around. You scared what major cost? Top overhaul job, you do for your normal camry/accord car, the mechanic also recommend you get the original seals and gaskets.

Those people cry foul say part expensive, because too used to buy REPLICA part made in taiwan/china which is much more abundant for toyota/honda and cheap. Quality is dubious, i changed my old vios rear bearing 3 times already within 5 years, in the end costs more than getting the original part in one go. Those unknown brake pad pretty much destroyed my brake disc, ended up serious uneven surface on the brake disc. Really, if proper OEM/original part cost, similar like toyota/honda.

Transmission fluid change a little expensive, SC charge 185 for 4L inclusive of labour. If do outside, just 30-40 cheaper, the fluid itself is a little more expensive but change every 50k km. If cannot swallow this, please don't drive d segment or even c segment car. Because nowadays workshop start charging based on the size/prestige brand level of the car, even though the job time not too much apart than regular car.

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post Dec 6 2019, 11:40 AM

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QUOTE(wkc5657 @ Dec 6 2019, 11:38 AM)
Why is this an issue of practicality since you put it under your shortlist?

Same sedan car like camry.
oil change/brake fluid change/brake pad change/radiator flush/etc, those normal stuff, price similar like camry lar....those work shop say cost more expensive for this kind of normal maintenance job, you can just walk off. Mazda is really just normal car la....not like supercar which need to dismantle this and that just to do some simple maintenance. You go look at the engine bay, so much space to work around. You scared what major cost? Top overhaul job, you do for your normal car, the mechanic also recommend you get the original seals and gaskets.

Those people cry foul say part expensive, because too used to buy REPLICA part made in taiwan/china which is much more abundant for toyota/honda and cheap. Quality is dubious, i changed my old vios rear bearing 3 times already within 5 years, in the end costs more than getting the original part in one go. Those unknown brake pad pretty much destroyed my brake disc, ended up serious uneven surface on the brake disc. Really, if proper OEM/original part cost, similar like toyota/honda.

Transmission fluid change a little expensive, SC charge 185 for 4L inclusive of labour.
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well, obviously, i put it under my shortlist because i like the look and the price meet my range..
but still need to compare practicality to other cars on the list. i like it, but i'm not a car person that knows all the details, thus, want to see some advice

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post Dec 6 2019, 11:48 AM

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QUOTE(neo_6053 @ Dec 6 2019, 11:40 AM)
well, obviously, i put it under my shortlist because i like the look and the price meet my range..
but still need to compare practicality to other cars on the list. i like it, but i'm not a car person that knows all the details, thus, want to see some advice
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i see....

if you're concerned about "practicality", i presume you're talking about interior space. So just forget about the sedans and just look into the SUVs.

I drive mazda3 (purportedly the worse interior space of the car in the same range), with 2 full sized child seats permanently at the back seats with some of their random barang barang also, i lived like that day in day out for almost 5 years already. So i really can't brain people that say, smaller interior cannot be family car.

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post Dec 6 2019, 01:46 PM

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QUOTE(wkc5657 @ Dec 6 2019, 11:48 AM)
i see....

if you're concerned about "practicality", i presume you're talking about interior space. So just forget about the sedans and just look into the SUVs.

I drive mazda3 (purportedly the worse interior space of the car in the same range), with 2 full sized child seats permanently at the back seats with some of their random barang barang also, i lived like that day in day out for almost 5 years already. So i really can't brain people that say, smaller interior cannot be family car.
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ya, interior is part of it.. others like fuel consumption, maintenance cost, comfortableness, reliability, whether easily broken, boot space, safety, airbags, whether enough workshop that knows how to repair, accessories.. and perhaps other real life experience about the car ..
example, i just knew the roadtax for 2.5 vs 2.0 is RM500 difference! that makes me want to forget about 2.5 since i dont really need that much power.
ya, my friend also suggesting me an SUV... but when i look into the SUV spec, i found their boot space is not that bigger actually, dunno about the interior space... i wonder is SUV just a taller , bigger car from the outside.. i guess i need to test drive one ..

unfortunately, mazda 6 2015 facelift version is much more expensive .. i heard the interior is much much better than the 2014 ..

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